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So just to be clear for everyone. Savoie is NHL or Bust. IF he had of gotten exceptional status AND, IF he played in the W in the COVID year he would have 4 full seasons and be AHL eligible this upcoming season.

However, Savoie didn’t get exceptional status(played 22 games in his 15 year old season using a loophole, possibly “emergency call up” can’t recall) and left during the COVID year.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s up with the team to start, goes to World Juniors and then the W for a playoff push, maybe a trade to a Memorial Cup contending team.
 
you don’t trade them now where they could be worth more in a couple years

They could also be worth jack squat. They are prospects Not every prospect develops

you do not trade thrm for rental players.

please cite times in recent times of top picks getting traded for rentals after they got drafted And before they turned 21/ didn’t play a full nhl season?


NJ just traded their 2020 1st round pick (Mukhamadullin) in the Meier trade.

It's not some rarity for former 1st/2nd round picks to get moved before they play a game. We moved a 2nd rounder from the previous season (Lemiuex) in the Myers/Kane trade. It doesn't happen often (usually players LIKE the guys they drafted and they are a year closer to contributing) but when a top tier guy is available, they become available. Krebs had BARELY played in the NHL when he was traded to us.


At 50% he can get a 2nd. I think it might be more of a player for player trade

Closer to the deadline that is probably correct. Before then...injuries will have to happen.
 
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It's true, they do not need to save money for this season.

They probably do not need to save money for 24-25 even, but 25-26 is going to likely be a big cap crunch year for this team, so signing overpaid UFAs through that season will almost certainly cost the team some great talent that they will have to trade away to remain cap compliant.

There are two ways to look at this-
1. Go for it now and the future be damned because Thompson, Skinner and Tuch are in their prime and to not do so is wasting their talent along with the cheap young ELC players that will allow the team to spend now.

The reason you they should have started being aggressive is last year is that they had Power, Peterka, and Quinn and the start of their ELCs and Cozens at the end of his and Dahlin had two years left on his bridge. Yes, they should have been aggressive this summer...but last summer as well.

2. The team is ridiculously young and the core is only going to get better. This group is not going to peak for at least 3 or 4 years, and it is then that they will be most poised to challenge for a cup. Overpaying mediocre UFAs for marginal improvement now, who will likely be in decline when the team should peak, limits the chances of winning the cup. Having that cap space to keep the team together and then adding a needed piece or two when they are a cup contender will give the team much better odds at actually winning it all.


It's easy to look at it and see 'Oh look at all those prospects, no way but up from here', the reality is always a lot murkier. I think for us to be truly successful with this prospect pool, we need a GM who is going to be cold and calculating. Who will maximize ELC contracts and not be afraid to move on good 'guys in the room' who 'want to be here' for the sake of addressing needs and improving the team. Adams simply hasn't shown that kind of detachment needed to make hard moves.

In a perfect world, It would be great to have the best of both worlds - if only some good UFAs would come to buffalo on one or two year deals, but the reality is that those good UFAs willing to do that don't really exist.

I understand the frustration, but I think Adams and Granato are sold on the second path given the difficulty in acquiring good players currently. For me, I am looking forward to watching the improvement each year and am just hoping that they make good decisions when the time comes where they have to make those moves.

The job is literally to do difficult things to improve your team. I think partially Adams is knee capped a bit by budgetary restrictions. They are unable to take risks on a long term deal that they might have to buy out later because the owner is sick of spending money on guys who aren't here.
 
Sabres are $8.776 Million under cap, and that's before saving another $1 M or so on Bryson in minors. Cheapo Pegula won't pay to play. It's becoming clear. I know saving money for 2024-25. Last year, I heard we were saving for 2023-24.

No one told you we were saving money to spend this year. People explained 10 different reasons for the cap situation, and you continue to dishonestly ignore all of them
 
The reason you they should have started being aggressive is last year is that they had Power, Peterka, and Quinn and the start of their ELCs and Cozens at the end of his and Dahlin had two years left on his bridge. Yes, they should have been aggressive this summer...but last summer as well. \

Being agressive means bringing in vets that are going to take away the icetime from the kids.

You can't have it both ways. Either you are aggressively developing all the draft capital, or you are going for it, in which case you do NOT want half of your top 6 being 21 years old or younger, and 3 of your top 4 D core being 22 or younger.

It is a catch 22 that you won't acknowledge. This team was too young to win as it was built, and the only work around for that was to bring in a lot of vets, which is not even realistic because we are still talking about Buffalo, which is on the majority of the league's NTC lists.

It is not realistic to state that Adams could build a competitive team through free agency. This is not New York City and signing quality vets is only an option if you are going to pay well above market value for them in most cases.

It's easy to look at it and see 'Oh look at all those prospects, no way but up from here', the reality is always a lot murkier. I think for us to be truly successful with this prospect pool, we need a GM who is going to be cold and calculating. Who will maximize ELC contracts and not be afraid to move on good 'guys in the room' who 'want to be here' for the sake of addressing needs and improving the team. Adams simply hasn't shown that kind of detachment needed to make hard moves.

There is some truth to the statement that the GM has to make the difficult decisions and can't be friends with all of the players. It is a business afterall, and relationships can cloud judgement on roster moves.

It is also important to take a step back and look at the big picture. Hockey is not football. Prospects are drafted extremely young and making personnel decisions with teenagers is a crap-shoot at best. Developing them and letting them play through their ELCs will give the GM a much better idea of what he has or doesn't have in the way of potential in all the prospects.

Rushing to move on from half your farm because there is a perceived logjam at the NHL level is flawed logic. Maybe you do not get all the value you could from prospects that bust if you wait to trade them or cut bait, but if you draft well, the benefits of holding onto them longer and then keeping the best of the lot far out-weighs the lost draft capital you may get in return from trading them early (especially when we are talking about smallish forwards, who typically don't have much value until they have scored 20+ in a season in the NHL)

The job is literally to do difficult things to improve your team. I think partially Adams is knee capped a bit by budgetary restrictions. They are unable to take risks on a long term deal that they might have to buy out later because the owner is sick of spending money on guys who aren't here.

Adams has definitely been restrained by internal budgets the past couple of seasons. That does not mean that Pegula won't spend the cap as the team improves and success demands spending to the cap, but I do believe that Adams and TP agreed on a plan to keep payroll in check as they develop the team from within. It is a very common strategy in small markets. Expecting anything different during a rebuild is somewhat naive to be honest.

Just look to San Jose fans, who have been constantly predicting that their team will eat tons of real dollars to buy draft capital and improve because they have the richest owner in the league. They are getting a rude awakening from reality right now as Grier tries to bring their payroll down to a rebuilding team's expected level, and the team is not eating substantial cash in retention to up the returns.
 
I don't worry about getting value for the 1st rounders. I worry about getting value for Neuchevs and Lindgrens. The guys who have raised their value already since the draft and may continue to do so.
 
Stop buying into the excuses. Pegula doesn't want to pay to be a cap team, There were loads of decent players signing one and two years deals to go to other teams this year. Tatar is even still out there. This is a team that wouldn't get any d depth last year, it wouldn't use its cap room to get extra picks. It won't sign a short-term goalie. There is nothing that says we have to sign stupid long-term deals. There are plenty of chances for short-term deals. You have to spend money!

There is no excuse here. I argued that there was an obvious internal budget restrictions the past two seasons, and every bit of evidence suggests that to be the case. The fact that they hired a bean-counter as the COO, which is a PR job in most situations says a boatload.

Buffalo is a small market. Expecting them to spend the cap during a rebuild after multiple failed attempts to quick-fix cheat the rebuild is setting unrealistic expectations.

Bringing in average UFAs on high AAV short term deals is not going to create a winner here.(I still have my doubts as to how many quality peices Adams could even entice to join the team, tbh) It would only limit the ice-time and experience the prospects are getting. This team is going to win it all (or fail trying) on the backs of the young talent that is making big strides currently. Making sure they get enough ice-time and development is a huge factor. Also making sure there is enough budget to keep them around as they earn their bridge and long term deals is also of the utmost importance.
 
Stop buying into the excuses. Pegula doesn't want to pay to be a cap team, There were loads of decent players signing one and two years deals to go to other teams this year. Tatar is even still out there. This is a team that wouldn't get any d depth last year, it wouldn't use its cap room to get extra picks. It won't sign a short-term goalie. There is nothing that says we have to sign stupid long-term deals. There are plenty of chances for short-term deals. You have to spend money!
"Loads of decent players signing one and two year deals"

Why do you want another Taylor Hall signing? That's what Tarasenko is doing. Going to a team where he'll play on the first line and maybe pump up his stats for a bigger pay day next year. That just doesn't gel with this team. I assume the other two guys would be Bertuzzi or Domi? Those are really the only 3 players that fit that description. Certainly not "loads" of players.

I don't think anybody available in FA really made sense with this team. All those 3 guys are horrendous defensively. If you want Olofsson out of the lineup it doesn't make sense to get guys who are the same liability. Some bottom 6 guys I liked, but that's just rearranging deck chairs at that point.
 
Suter or Nosek woulda been cool. They really like Jost I guess.

7 forwards under 23 next seasons if you include Benson. Crazy.

Most people think Compher got overpaid. He would have been a great add to the mix. 5x5 is what he got and what I predicted. Tough to see Mitts staying long term if we would have signed JT.

Would prefer Zucker to Olofsson. That's the one-year deal I would have gone for.

I really think Pittsburgh did well in adding Graves. Kinda bummed we didn't add him at that contract. I dont even know if we were interested.

Dumba deal is good but big picture, he wasn't looking for that deal. He might have been asking for 6+ per season the first day of free agency.

We are passed the thinking of spending to the cap for the sake of spending to the camp. In a couple more years we are going to be up against it. We need to let the kids play and not have Tarasenkos just for the hell of it. Tarasenko doesn't get us into the 2nd round. Now, if we are looking for guys at the trade deadline, we can add 30 million in salary in trades. What I really hope is Adams goes all in if we are at the 9th spot at the deadline. If we aren't in the playoff mix at the deadline...heads should roll I think.
 
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It would be interesting to know the free agents Buffalo has been in on and missed since Adams arrival.

We know they went after some other forwards this summer. We know Adams didn't want to overpay by a lot. We know Buffalo called on Nic Deslaurier this summer.

I would have liked to go after a better defensemen to be 7th last summer instead of Fitzgerald. Hindsight says we should have planned to have Bryson as the 7th or 8th too. Other than spending on more depth (or someone other than Jost who can pk/faceoff), I'm not for taking a chance on any more "Taylor Hall signings".
 
There is no excuse here. I argued that there was an obvious internal budget restrictions the past two seasons, and every bit of evidence suggests that to be the case. The fact that they hired a bean-counter as the COO, which is a PR job in most situations says a boatload.

Buffalo is a small market. Expecting them to spend the cap during a rebuild after multiple failed attempts to quick-fix cheat the rebuild is setting unrealistic expectations.

Bringing in average UFAs on high AAV short term deals is not going to create a winner here.(I still have my doubts as to how many quality peices Adams could even entice to join the team, tbh) It would only limit the ice-time and experience the prospects are getting. This team is going to win it all (or fail trying) on the backs of the young talent that is making big strides currently. Making sure they get enough ice-time and development is a huge factor. Also making sure there is enough budget to keep them around as they earn their bridge and long term deals is also of the utmost importance.

The Bills do it. The rebuild is over. There is no internal budget. Bills have the 5th least cap space in entire NFL

 
They could also be worth jack squat. They are prospects Not every prospect develops

1st rounders retain value a lot longer then 6 th rounders.
NJ just traded their 2020 1st round pick (Mukhamadullin) in the Meier trade.

It's not some rarity for former 1st/2nd round picks to get moved before they play a game. We moved a 2nd rounder from the previous season (Lemiuex) in the Myers/Kane trade. It doesn't happen often (usually players LIKE the guys they drafted and they are a year closer to contributing) but when a top tier guy is available, they become available. Krebs had BARELY played in the NHL when he was traded to us.

it is a rarity…just having it happens once in a panic move by NJ GM.

in his case he just drafted Hughes and Nemec ehich you thrn push that prospect down on the list.

stilla dumb move.

The reason you they should have started being aggressive is last year is that they had Power, Peterka, and Quinn and the start of their ELCs and Cozens at the end of his and Dahlin had two years left on his bridge. Yes, they should have been aggressive this summer...but last summer as well.


you have to limit yourself to 2-3 yr rentals because of cap uncertainty. All that does might get them into the playoffs but you can’t resign them and now need to use youth thst now isn’t there because you traded it away.
It's easy to look at it and see 'Oh look at all those prospects, no way but up from here', the reality is always a lot murkier. I think for us to be truly successful with this prospect pool, we need a GM who is going to be cold and calculating. Who will maximize ELC contracts and not be afraid to move on good 'guys in the room' who 'want to be here' for the sake of addressing needs and improving the team. Adams simply hasn't shown that kind of detachment needed to make hard moves.

good guys in the room do matter in team sports. You remove a specific player the team can fracture.
The job is literally to do difficult things to improve your team. I think partially Adams is knee capped a bit by budgetary restrictions. They are unable to take risks on a long term deal that they might have to buy out later because the owner is sick of spending money on guys who aren't here.

there is a lot of cap uncertainty since Covid occurred. Now compounded by streaming/ local cable revenue issues and uncertainty.

thrn you have thr issue of players not wanting to come here either by blocking trades or not signing and thrn you have GMs asking a lot more than thry would from a known gm
I don't worry about getting value for the 1st rounders. I worry about getting value for Neuchevs and Lindgrens. The guys who have raised their value already since the draft and may continue to do so.
These players don’t have any real trade value until they make the nhl. Almost Every team has prospects like them.
 
The Bills do it. The rebuild is over. There is no internal budget. Bills have the 5th least cap space in entire NFL


Check back n 2 yrs when some of the names get turned over due to eating dead cap space and start a mini retool.

football and hockey are different. If they moved the nhl drsft to 21b3 yrs post HS you coukd have similar things but still college to pro is a much smaller step than CHL/college is to nhl.
 
No one told you we were saving money to spend this year. People explained 10 different reasons for the cap situation, and you continue to dishonestly ignore all of them

If you want to sit close to $10 M under the cap and not add to the lineup for various reasons that have zero impact on 2023-24, go ahead. Winning teams don't do this. Teams missing the playoffs for a 12th-year might.
 
The NHL can not be compared to the NFL in “monies.” The NFL generates billions of dollars in revenue, with networks outbidding each other constantly. The Bills payroll is covered by that revenue, and each team is a money making machine. They do not rely on tickets to pay the bills and they don’t need Pegula’s deep pockets because the team itself covers all costs and makes money.

Not in the NHL. Multiple teams loose money each year. National TV contracts don’t cover the cost, and small market teams have small market local tv contracts which help but don’t bring in much….unlike the big markets. NHL teams count on those 41 home games revenue and seeing the Sabres sucked before Covid, during Covid and after Covid, their gate revenue has sucked….ie, no money, loosing millions a year.

If I’m Pegula, you can bet your ass there’s a budget lower than the cap. He’s lost money on the Sabres for years….actual cash money, not the inflated “well the Sabres have doubled in value since he purchased the team crap.”

Build the team like they used to, small market mindset, build from within for long term, sustainable success. Start winning and they revenue will come.


As for the debate about trading some of the prospects. I see JJ and Kulich as the two guys that are going to make the team Cup contenders. Huh???? Well, come playoff time, it’s not always the stars that make you win but the guys who play 100% every shift, play a 200’ games, outwork the guy in the corners, strip the guy from behind, get underneath the opponents skin and get ‘em off their games, AND put the puck in the net when the games on the line….ie Claude Lemieux. It seems to me that every time you guys are talking about either of these players, you’re describing Claude Lemieux. Holy crap, are you telling me we’ve got two of them and Tage, Cuz, Dahlin, Power, Quinn, etc?!?!?!

I wouldn’t trade either of them, because they’re are the ones that are going to be up and down the lineups and make this team very good, over the hump!!!
 
If you want to sit close to $10 M under the cap and not add to the lineup for various reasons that have zero impact on 2023-24, go ahead. Winning teams don't do this. Teams missing the playoffs for a 12th-year might.
I don't think there is only one way to build a winning team. Colorado for example were the 3rd lowest team for final cap hit in 2018-2019 and 4th lowest in 2019-2020.

Didn't they ever want to win a Stanley Cup again? Or was this just part of their developmental journey?

You know who had the highest cap hit in 2018-2019? The Red Wings earning a mighty 74 points.
 
1st rounders retain value a lot longer then 6 th rounders.


it is a rarity…just having it happens once in a panic move by NJ GM.

in his case he just drafted Hughes and Nemec ehich you thrn push that prospect down on the list.

stilla dumb move.




you have to limit yourself to 2-3 yr rentals because of cap uncertainty. All that does might get them into the playoffs but you can’t resign them and now need to use youth thst now isn’t there because you traded it away.


good guys in the room do matter in team sports. You remove a specific player the team can fracture.


there is a lot of cap uncertainty since Covid occurred. Now compounded by streaming/ local cable revenue issues and uncertainty.

thrn you have thr issue of players not wanting to come here either by blocking trades or not signing and thrn you have GMs asking a lot more than thry would from a known gm

These players don’t have any real trade value until they make the nhl. Almost Every team has prospects like them.
There's not many teams at all that have quality prospect depth like the Sabres. They don't have a ton of value now which is why I wouldn't want to move guys out for 4ths or 5ths or 12/13 type guys. Nobody is stealing Savoie or Kulich but I would be pissed if we got a 5 or 6 back for Novikov or Nadeau just to clean up a bit.
 
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Being agressive means bringing in vets that are going to take away the icetime from the kids.

Oh nooooooo not the kids ice time! If only we had an ENTIRE LEAGUE dedicated to giving kids ice time!
You can't have it both ways. Either you are aggressively developing all the draft capital, or you are going for it, in which case you do NOT want half of your top 6 being 21 years old or younger, and 3 of your top 4 D core being 22 or younger.

Sure you can. You can have ELC players in key positions (i.e. Power in the top 4, Quinn/Peterka/Cozens in the middle six) and still have enough veteran talent to to contend. You simply have to be willing to spend assets and cap space, which this front office wasn't willing to do.

It is a catch 22 that you won't acknowledge. This team was too young to win as it was built, and the only work around for that was to bring in a lot of vets, which is not even realistic because we are still talking about Buffalo, which is on the majority of the league's NTC lists.

It is not realistic to state that Adams could build a competitive team through free agency. This is not New York City and signing quality vets is only an option if you are going to pay well above market value for them in most cases.

Please stop making excuses for the front office/ownership. Last year I noted that it was a poorly constructed team. That has nothing to do about players being unwilling to come here.

The front office used all 11 draft picks, including 3 1st rounders. They didn't sign any even mid tier UFAs. That isn't players 'declining', that is a team choosing to use every draft pick over aggressively improving themselves.

Yes, Buffalo will always be a tough market to recruit to. But again, there's a reason why GM is a tough position. It's Adams (and ownerships) job to sell people on coming here. The Eichel debacle and two years of cap floor spending has hurt their reputation league wide more than the market ever has.

There is some truth to the statement that the GM has to make the difficult decisions and can't be friends with all of the players. It is a business afterall, and relationships can cloud judgement on roster moves.

It is also important to take a step back and look at the big picture. Hockey is not football. Prospects are drafted extremely young and making personnel decisions with teenagers is a crap-shoot at best. Developing them and letting them play through their ELCs will give the GM a much better idea of what he has or doesn't have in the way of potential in all the prospects.

Rushing to move on from half your farm because there is a perceived logjam at the NHL level is flawed logic. Maybe you do not get all the value you could from prospects that bust if you wait to trade them or cut bait, but if you draft well, the benefits of holding onto them longer and then keeping the best of the lot far out-weighs the lost draft capital you may get in return from trading them early (especially when we are talking about smallish forwards, who typically don't have much value until they have scored 20+ in a season in the NHL)



Adams has definitely been restrained by internal budgets the past couple of seasons. That does not mean that Pegula won't spend the cap as the team improves and success demands spending to the cap, but I do believe that Adams and TP agreed on a plan to keep payroll in check as they develop the team from within. It is a very common strategy in small markets. Expecting anything different during a rebuild is somewhat naive to be honest.

Nobody was expecting the Pegula's to spend to the cap after finishing dead last.

Using LTIR to circumvent the cap FLOOR two years in a row with a 25+ year old rotting corpse of an arena in disrepair is being cheap.


Just look to San Jose fans, who have been constantly predicting that their team will eat tons of real dollars to buy draft capital and improve because they have the richest owner in the league. They are getting a rude awakening from reality right now as Grier tries to bring their payroll down to a rebuilding team's expected level, and the team is not eating substantial cash in retention to up the returns.

Not even close to comparable. San Jose has several legacy contracts on the books, including Vlasic and Couture. They also have 7M in dead cap between buyouts and retaining contracts.
 
Oh nooooooo not the kids ice time! If only we had an ENTIRE LEAGUE dedicated to giving kids ice time!
So you want to send Peterka and Quinn back to the minors? Because that is what we are talking about here. Playing kids in top roles who are not good enough in those roles to contend. They are the reason the team is not ready.

Sure you can. You can have ELC players in key positions (i.e. Power in the top 4, Quinn/Peterka/Cozens in the middle six) and still have enough veteran talent to to contend. You simply have to be willing to spend assets and cap space, which this front office wasn't willing to do.
This team was never going to contend with all the under 22 players in the top 6/top 4. If you watched the games, the kids got steamrolled a LOT. Power was a disaster is the D zone, and oppositions started throwing out physical checking lines against the kid line that were wrecking them. Saying that they could contend with some better supporting vets playing in bottom roles is ridiculous.

Please stop making excuses for the front office/ownership. Last year I noted that it was a poorly constructed team. That has nothing to do about players being unwilling to come here
I've said the team was poorly constructed for several seasons. You can't win in this league rolling a bunch of scoring lines that don't play D. I have been super critical of Adams in many areas, but I have accepted the "development years" excuse because it is a legitimate rebuild strategy, so I am giving them a chance to actually take several seasons and implement it- and it seems to be paying off.

The front office used all 11 draft picks, including 3 1st rounders. They didn't sign any even mid tier UFAs. That isn't players 'declining', that is a team choosing to use every draft pick over aggressively improving themselves.

Yes, Buffalo will always be a tough market to recruit to. But again, there's a reason why GM is a tough position. It's Adams (and ownerships) job to sell people on coming here. The Eichel debacle and two years of cap floor spending has hurt their reputation league wide more than the market ever has.

You seem to think attracting highly sought after UFAs to Buffalo is a thing. It isn't. The best free agents are going to go elsewhere. The only time this team has been able to sign top flight UFAs at the start of free agency is when they grossly overpay. It sucks, but it is something the GM has to contend with. We can't pretend the problem does not exist.
Nobody was expecting the Pegula's to spend to the cap after finishing dead last.

Wait. Did you not regularly accuse Terry Pegula of lying because the team was not spending the cap after that season and you kept referencing his statements from a press conference 10 years ago where he said "we will spend whatever it takes to make the sabres successful"?

Or was that some other poster with "Oak" in their moniker?

Using LTIR to circumvent the cap FLOOR two years in a row with a 25+ year old rotting corpse of an arena in disrepair is being cheap.
Hey, I have never defended Terry Pegula of being a great owner. I made the same arguments last off-season and was told I was off base and given a bunch of Buffalo Bills references to prove why.

The hiring of John Roth was a huge red flag for me.

Could they have spent a bunch of money and produced a better on ice product the last two years? Absolutely. Should they have signed any of the available high end UFAs to over-priced, long term deals? Absolutely not.

I honestly like where the team is with the cap flexibility.

But then, I do not feel like the 20-22 year old core had any hope of contending at the moment, so my reality was different than several posters here. I remember arguing against a couple of posters who were trying to convince me that giving Kadei 10+ million was the way to go....

Not even close to comparable. San Jose has several legacy contracts on the books, including Vlasic and Couture. They also have 7M in dead cap between buyouts and retaining contracts.

You missed the point.

The point is not the direction of the two teams, it is the comparison of small market teams having owners that spend money for draft capital and throwing away real dollars to get future assets (you mentioned weaponizing cap i.e. taking on dumps for sweeteners). I was pointing out that even the richest owner in the league is not throwing real money away to just improve draft capital, much to the shock and dismay of a few delusional Sharks fans who regularly post nonsense on the main boards. Expecting Pegula to do similar during the rebuild was a narrative around here.
 
Pegula is one of the worst owners in NHL history. It’s an objective fact. There have been few owners with his lack of success. The team spent foolishly when they should have been rebuilding and now he’s pinching pennies when they could be close to contending. I won’t even get into the arena. We’ll never know his direct involvement in things like the ridiculous Skinner deal or the forced O’Reilly trade a day before bonus due but anyone who feels they can defend his track record should be a criminal lawyer.
You can make all the arguments you want but the franchise has been diminished under him and he was given a pretty decent market for hockey, even if it is small.
Sabres games lost tons of value even before the pandemic. GMKA is doing great stuff with his staff and Pegula gets credit for the good — and the bad — as an owner.
But the next level will require spending close to the cap.
Being a small market team maybe 10% to 15% below the cap is a difficult handicap.
And I’m sorry he said I’ll dig another well, not others. He should be honest with fans and admit if that has changed.
 
No one told you we were saving money to spend this year. People explained 10 different reasons for the cap situation, and you continue to dishonestly ignore all of them
This is the new revisionist history on this?

cool.

expect Adams himself has openly talked about not spending money for years because of future cap problems. And people here have parroted it as a reason that we can’t have a goalie or a top 4 D as if it ever made any sense. For literally two years now.

It’s been the crux of every argument people calling it out have had thrown back at them for, now, three off-seasons.

That mythical future that never arrives. The GM who continues to do nothing. The part of the fanbase that cheers it on.

All comes crashing down this year.

Holy hyperbole. I'd easily take Pegula over the few owners before them. Pegulas are the best owners the franchise has had not named Knox.
His team has never made the playoffs in a season he has owned the team from the start of it. An NHL record 12 years that he breaks every year now.

That’s before discussing his budget cuts to every aspect of the organization not just on ice where, despite his franchise tripling in value and the cap being artificially kept low to earn owners back Covid losses…he claims poverty and has spent at or among the lowest in the league for years.

I’d take any owner on any team ever over him. They’ve literally all had more success.

Bar can’t get any lower for you.
 
Please stop making excuses for the front office/ownership. Last year I noted that it was a poorly constructed team. That has nothing to do about players being unwilling to come here.

The front office used all 11 draft picks, including 3 1st rounders. They didn't sign any even mid tier UFAs. That isn't players 'declining', that is a team choosing to use every draft pick over aggressively improving themselves.

Yes, Buffalo will always be a tough market to recruit to. But again, there's a reason why GM is a tough position. It's Adams (and ownerships) job to sell people on coming here. The Eichel debacle and two years of cap floor spending has hurt their reputation league wide more than the market ever has.
I've seen you complain that we've had to overpay just to get bottom pair / bottom 6 guys in FA, but you want us to sign mid-tier FAs? You realize that would be even bigger overpayments for term?

Nobody cares about Eichel or not wanting to spend during a rebuild. Players only care about money & if the team is good.
 
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