Sabres Management and Coaching Thread

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Bylsma is likely going to get the ax in the offseason. I would be surprised if he didn't.
Murray, i am not sure why there is so much murray hate. If you are looking at the fact that he hired Bylsma in a vacuum, then yes that's pretty damning. Other than that, what other reasoning is there to can Murray?

Now you've done...:laugh:

[Insert the same 4 moves that "prove" Murray has destroyed the future of this team even though at most they affect the present, even though the moves are pretty easy to understand why he did them, and insert the same argument of where would we be with McNabb in the lineup]
 
Now you've done...:laugh:

[Insert the same 4 moves that "prove" Murray has destroyed the future of this team even though at most they affect the present, even though the moves are pretty easy to understand why he did them, and insert the same argument of where would we be with McNabb in the lineup]

I hit 'submit reply' and immediately regretted my decision :laugh:

Even some of his more questionable moves have worked well in our favor (the Lehner trade: aside from last night, Lehner has been one of the more consistent and good players on this team).
 
Fans who want to fire the GM because the team didn't make the playoffs this year.

The GM expected playoffs this year.


Personally, I think people are being impatient with conversations about the GM's job security.

Personally i can't think of another profession where the incompetence Murray has displayed for his job would be tolerated for as long as it has been. I don't know what you do for a living, but i know where i work if i had made as many mistakes as he has i would have been out on the street years ago. I think if the guy who pulls the burgers out of machine at McDonalds kept screwing up the burgers over and over and over for 4 years straight, he would probably be gone by now too. I don't think it has anything to do with impatience. I think it's bad business.
 
The GM expected playoffs this year.




Personally i can't think of another profession where the incompetence Murray has displayed for his job would be tolerated for as long as it has been. I don't know what you do for a living, but i know where i work if i had made as many mistakes as he has i would have been out on the street years ago. I think if the guy who pulls the burgers out of machine at McDonalds kept screwing up the burgers over and over and over for 4 years straight, he would probably be gone by now too. I don't think it has anything to do with impatience. I think it's bad business.

No it's definitely impatience
 
The GM expected playoffs this year.




Personally i can't think of another profession where the incompetence Murray has displayed for his job would be tolerated for as long as it has been. I don't know what you do for a living, but i know where i work if i had made as many mistakes as he has i would have been out on the street years ago. I think if the guy who pulls the burgers out of machine at McDonalds kept screwing up the burgers over and over and over for 4 years straight, he would probably be gone by now too. I don't think it has anything to do with impatience. I think it's bad business.

List the factual mistakes he made. Not the ones you disagree with, but ones that have had led to a hinderance of how our team operates.
 
Now you've done...:laugh:

[Insert the same 4 moves that "prove" Murray has destroyed the future of this team even though at most they affect the present, even though the moves are pretty easy to understand why he did them, and insert the same argument of where would we be with McNabb in the lineup]

Well, to be honest, if we had kept Brayden McNabb, he'd be in line for a Norris Trophy and we'd be fighting with the Caps right now for first in the conference. Risto would only play 5 minutes a game, and we'd have five forwards all pushing for 100 points. Plus, Blysma would have been forced to create a whole new inventive game plan around McNabb that allowed him to play 35 minutes a game.
 
Watch out for Nolan apologists. They think he'd have won again :rant:

So, the team didn't make the jump. That's fine. I'm worried the system Disco is using may not work. It didn't work with the best player in the world.

Murray needs to get some more D, clearly.

McNabb? He's barely a 3rd pairing D in LA. Let it go.
 
No it's definitely impatience

Although the rebuild isn't going picture perfect and the timeline isn't as prompt as ALL Sabres fans would like it to be...

It's totally impatience.

I heard some mouth breather on WGR last night after the game (driving home from watching the game at a friends house) say ... "um yea (breathes into phone) ... the coach isn't the problem, it's at the players. Get rid of all the players who don't wanna try hard and (breathes harder into phone) ... don't wanna be here. Start over. Yea lets just start over"

Bloody hell. Talk about illogical impatience. :facepalm:


There is nothing wrong with ... between the end of the season, and opening face-off in 2017 ....

1. Fire Bylsma. Replace with hopefully a better option.
2. Grab one youngish top 4 D-man by any (smart and logical) means necessary.
3. Rid the team of one or more bad contracts. Ennis. Bogo. Moulson.
4. Rid the team of one or more of Deslauriers, Gorges.


Those things do not NEED to be done now. NEED.

WANT is a different story.



Now if TM doesn't do most of these things before training camp .... then yea ... his days should be numbered. Numbered .... not "bahhhh fire Murray on opening face-off bahhhh"
 
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I want Blysma gone but some of this is on the players. They seem to have no awareness in the defensive zone.
 
Murray has to know he's probably gone after next season if the team doesn't make the playoffs. I expect some very aggressive moves this summer. We'll see if they work out.

Agree.

Also, no need to move Bylsma now. In-season coaching changes are designed to produce results. See Florida. Firing Bylsma now gets Buffalo nowhere. They aren't making the playoffs. Scotty Bowman couldn't get them into the playoffs now.

Better to let the season end, think through the situation, and make a decision.
 
Agree.

Also, no need to move Bylsma now. In-season coaching changes are designed to produce results. See Florida. Firing Bylsma now gets Buffalo nowhere. They aren't making the playoffs. Scotty Bowman couldn't get them into the playoffs now.

Better to let the season end, think through the situation, and make a decision.

Islanders and Boston benefited, too, though one fired a bad coach and the other fired a really good coach. The cynic in me also says that Murray knows he can buy himself another year if he starts with Bylsma, fires him in-season, and gets a bump from the successor - even if he doesn't get a bump, Murray can use the "coach needs a preseason to put in his system" out.
 
Islanders and Boston benefited, too, though one fired a bad coach and the other fired a really good coach. The cynic in me also says that Murray knows he can buy himself another year if he starts with Bylsma, fires him in-season, and gets a bump from the successor - even if he doesn't get a bump, Murray can use the "coach needs a preseason to put in his system" out.

That's exactly what he should do. I'd do it in his position.

If the Sabres flame out to end the season in dramatic fashion, it may force his hand.
 


Meanwhile, the once radical theory that Sabres players are consciously or subconsciously diverting a bit from the coaching staff's game plans -- out of confusion, inability, rebellion or indifference -- is actually starting to gain some legs.

There just isn't another reasonable answer available to the question of how so many defensive zone lapses can occur so often in so many games. Last night's parting of the Red Sea for Claude Giroux is Exhibit A.

In a nutshell, the inmates are running the asylum. Bylsma seems unable or unwilling to force his imprint on this group. He does not appear to have control of his team. And it doesn't fare well at all for his future in Buffalo.

It's been written in this space that the former Penguins bench boss is a good coach. I still believe that to be the case, although it was mentioned here that Guy Boucher would've been a better choice. The argument that anyone can win a Stanley Cup with Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin is silly, unless we want to start cutting down every coach in history who won championships with great players.

But sometimes there are just bad fits. For whatever reason, it seems as though Bylsma is not a good match with this roster. We've seen good coaches do extremely well in one town and stink it up in another. It's chemistry.

And there are signs the agony of this season is getting to him. Not even a month ago, Bylsma told the media that turnovers by Jack Eichel are better than puck dump-ins because it means the franchise center is trying to be creative. He even mused that he'd bench Eichel if he never coughed up the puck.

Last night, he sat Eichel for a shift after his turnover that resulted in the first Flyers goal. For good measure, he postgame criticized the puck management decisions of the player whose creativity produced 2 goals and 3 points.

When word out of Pittsburgh a few years ago was that Crosby and Malkin were practically crying on each others' shoulders over their frustration with Bylsma, it was brushed off by many with some even labeling them both as coach killers. But combine that with the erratic handling of Eichel and it just might make you wonder.





The entire article is a pretty balanced take on the situation.
 
Bending over backwards to establish Bylsma as a "good coach" is funny. Davis was defending Bylsma in the midst of his running O'Reilly/Risto into the ground and not playing kids at the 25 game mark, his opinion here is not valuable.
 
Bending over backwards to establish Bylsma as a "good coach" is funny. Davis was defending Bylsma in the midst of his running O'Reilly/Risto into the ground and not playing kids at the 25 game mark, his opinion here is not valuable.

What a petulant response. You hate Disco and anyone that doesn't disagree should be ignored.
 
Yeah, I believe a guy who was blaming execution and extolling the virtues of Bylsma's coaching 30 games ago should not be treated as an authority on the subject just because he wrote a lot of words.
 
Bending over backwards to establish Bylsma as a "good coach" is funny. Davis was defending Bylsma in the midst of his running O'Reilly/Risto into the ground and not playing kids at the 25 game mark, his opinion here is not valuable.

Who cares about what his opinion of Bylsma is, it doesn't take away from the rest of the article being seemingly valid.
 
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