Ryan Suter vs Roman Josi vs Shea Weber (Career)

[Sweetpotato]

Josi even at his younger age. Hardware and accomplishments matter.

 

[triggrman]

I'm more comparing Suter and Weber, than Suter and Josi...because Suter and Weber are closer in age.

And I'm not sure how you can be that declarative with your bolded statement. The offensive numbers of Suter and Weber are about as close as you can get.

Weber: 1014 GP, 580 points
Suter: 1165 GP, 596 points

Gotcha.

I'd still say, while Weber's 47 point career pace is still higher than Suter's 41, Weber's shot made that small difference larger, IMHO.

 

[Gurglesons]

I went Josi, Suter, Weber.

 

[Felidae]

Was planning to do a Josi vs Weber poll but found this in the search engine so figured I'd bump this instead.

Josi has since added another year where he finished as a Norris finalist and his record looks like this (only included top 10 finishes for everyone)
1, 2, 2, 5, 5, 7, 7


Weber
2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10

So now both have been a finalist the same amount of times. Josi is already aging better though, 2 time Norris finalist from ages 31-33 whereas Weber stopped getting votes after 31. Does that change anyone's vote?


And here is Suter's
2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 9

Doesn't really compare, but I think most of us can agree that has more to do with the type of defenseman he is rather than him not deserving a better Norris record.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Weber really deserved at least one Norris.

2011 should've been his.

I honestly think it's a toss up between Weber and Josi at this point, they're very different stylistically so it's hard to compare, but Josi continues to impress.

Josi was also super close to winning the 2022 Norris, which would've given him another one in addition to the 2020 Norris.

 

[bobholly39]

At the time I voted Weber, Josi, Suter. Sticking to it - but I will say Josi has made it a lot closer now

 

[swissexpert]

Was planning to do a Josi vs Weber poll but found this in the search engine so figured I'd bump this instead.

Josi has since added another year where he finished as a Norris finalist and his record looks like this (only included top 10 finishes for everyone)
1, 2, 2, 5, 5, 7, 7


Weber
2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10

So now both have been a finalist the same amount of times. Josi is already aging better though, 2 time Norris finalist from ages 31-33 whereas Weber stopped getting votes after 31. Does that change anyone's vote?


And here is Suter's
2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 9

Doesn't really compare, but I think most of us can agree that has more to do with the type of defenseman he is rather than him not deserving a better Norris record.

The voting is from 3 years ago, if you really want to know people's opinion you could start a new poll. A lot has happened since and most won't come back here to update their votes

I went with Josi-Weber-Suter.

Josi is aging like fine wine, been the league's most productive Dman since 2017.

 

[I am not exposed]

Josi
Suter
Weber

Weber is one of the most overrated players of all time. He gets rated higher than he should because he he looks mean, is a good ole Canadian boy, and has a hard shot.

Suter and Josi are both better hockey players than Weber.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Three tremendous players

 

[Bileur]

Josi, Weber, Suter for me.

All excellent.

Nashville is lucky to have had such studs for so long.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Was planning to do a Josi vs Weber poll but found this in the search engine so figured I'd bump this instead.

Josi has since added another year where he finished as a Norris finalist and his record looks like this (only included top 10 finishes for everyone)
1, 2, 2, 5, 5, 7, 7


Weber
2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10

So now both have been a finalist the same amount of times. Josi is already aging better though, 2 time Norris finalist from ages 31-33 whereas Weber stopped getting votes after 31. Does that change anyone's vote?


And here is Suter's
2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 9

Doesn't really compare, but I think most of us can agree that has more to do with the type of defenseman he is rather than him not deserving a better Norris record.

I think it's interesting that they are era-suited, as well, to be honest. Weber was really the quintessential dman type of the 2008-16ish era, Josi from then to now. I'm sure they still enjoy massive success if you were to swap them in their ages but I'm not sure it's quite the same.

 

[Jack Skellington]

I still think it's Weber, Josi, Suter but all 3 are very very close. Suter is super underrated

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Weber
Josi
Suter

Weber should have won the Norris in 2011, but the voters wanted to give a career award to Lidström.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I still think it's Weber, Josi, Suter but all 3 are very very close. Suter is super underrated

Agree. I think a case can be made for Weber or Josi at 1 but not Suter...yet that being said it's not a big gap between any of them.

 

[JungleBeat]

Josi.

Weber is getting the Canadian bias. Him being a ‘prototypical’ dman with his size and hard shot gets him overrated as well.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Josi
Suter
Weber

Weber is one of the most overrated players of all time. He gets rated higher than he should because he he looks mean, is a good ole Canadian boy, and has a hard shot.

Suter and Josi are both better hockey players than Weber.

Total joke. Weber was the best Dman on team Canada in 2014. A team with: Duncan Kieth, Drew Doughty, PK Subban, Hammuis, Bouwmeester, Pietrangelo, and Vlassic. He should absolutely have one Norris by now if not 2 and was a phenomenal player.

He averaged nearly 18 goals a season while in Nashville, finished top 4 in Norris voting four times, including top 2 twice where he was arguably robbed when Lidstrom won in 2011 and EK in 2012.

From a Hawks fan who has spent the last 15 years watching all 3 of these guys, Weber is comfortably the best of the three.