Player Discussion Ryan Spooner Part V

[bruins repeat time]

Which is 3 total playoff series wins in 8 years.

Was in every series . All 7 game losses except one awesome 6 game series . If you want to give me the exact record , go ahead I am not going to search for it .

 

[PlayMakers]

Spooner had been the best player on the ice. Julien ripped him after the game more than he ever ripped another Bruin during his time here. It was ****ing bizarre and most of us were ******** about it.

I think it's clear that despite his personal feelings Spooner always said the right things about his coach. These are some pretty tame comments considering the sentiment behind them, so not sure I understand the outrage from some.

Wish some people held Julien's absurd comments about Spooner over the years to 1/10th the standard they're holding Spooner to now.

Didn't the best player on the ice allow the game winning goal in that game by not bothering to stay with his man on the last rush in OT? Just sayin'.

Julien also went out of his way to praise Spooner when he played well, saying things like "We've got all the ice time in the world for him if he continues to play like that."

 

[Concessionaire]

Claude didn't like Spooner. This is a news flash?

Spooner stated the obvious, and did it in the mildest way possible.

Spooner has been better under Cassidy, but "best player on the ice" is WAY overstating it.

 

[bruins repeat time]

im sure haggs just kept badgering him with questions to try and get this response..spooner seems like a soft spoken guy so im sure he was trying to answer politely but honestly.. and he's right .. we all knew it.. claude didnt like the type of player he was. i hope he has continued success and i have no problem with him saying this.. boston media (and us) will drive this quote into the ground and im sure spooner will regret that . still doesnt make it untrue

I am sure you are right. Just for the record though didn't a lot of you guys think Claude was the one and only guy in the organization holding back morrow and promoting k.miller . A lot of people who were very vocal in that way seem very quiet now.

 

[BNHL]

Was in every series . All 7 game losses except one awesome 6 game series . If you want to give me the exact record , go ahead I am not going to search for it .

That's a **** poor 8 year record. 3 2nd round eliminations,2 round 1 losses and 2 didn't even friggin qualify.

 

[Hali33]

I think Clode criticized Spooner after he scored 2 goals in a preseason game vs the habs.

I mean there's been how many discussions on Spooner/Claude, it didn't come from nowhere. That example sticks out for me as well. Not to mention the countless times vets on the team have had some mind numbingly awful play that would never be criticized. Again, as someone who likes Claude I don't think it was an equal playing field when it came to criticism with Claude.

I don't think Claude is a monster and all coaches have their preferences and players they like/dislike. But I don't think what Spooner said/felt is untrue. And since Claude is not the coach anymore, I don't care if he says it.

There's enough robotic answers in hockey, honesty is refreshing to me.

 

[EverettMike]

Didn't the best player on the ice allow the game winning goal in that game by not bothering to stay with his man on the last rush in OT? Just sayin'.

Julien also went out of his way to praise Spooner when he played well, saying things like "We've got all the ice time in the world for him if he continues to play like that."

I honestly don't remember, but I trust your memory. It was still way over the top from Julien after the game.

I often found Julien's praise for Spooner to be backhanded and condescending. I don't think he went out of his way in anyway shape or form.

Do you think Julien liked Spooner?
Do you think he was harder or him publicly than other players?
Do you think Spooner ever said anything but the "right" thing about Julien when he was here?

 

[EverettMike]

Claude didn't like Spooner. This is a news flash?

Spooner stated the obvious, and did it in the mildest way possible.

Spooner has been better under Cassidy, but "best player on the ice" is WAY overstating it.

That was in reference to a pre-season game 4 years ago.

 

[PlayMakers]

I am sure you are right. Just for the record though didn't a lot of you guys think Claude was the one and only guy in the organization holding back morrow and promoting k.miller . A lot of people who were very vocal in that way seem very quiet now.

I don't know... I don't think much of Haggerty but I wouldn't put this on him. IMO, Spooner is an entitled little prat.

He pouted and complained to the media when Cassidy put him on the wing two years ago. He clearly didn't care for Julien's tough love approach, which is fine, not everybody has to, but consistently whining to the media looks bad on him IMHO. Seguin didn't do that. Marchand, Krejci, Pasta, Vatrano et al did't do that...

 

[bruins repeat time]

That's a **** poor 8 year record. 3 2nd round eliminations,2 round 1 losses and 2 didn't even friggin qualify.

whole record please along with all the teams that did better not named hawks or kings

 

[hoss75]

I mean there's been how many discussions on Spooner/Claude, it didn't come from nowhere. That example sticks out for me as well. Not to mention the countless times vets on the team have had some mind numbingly awful play that would never be criticized. Again, as someone who likes Claude I don't think it was an equal playing field when it came to criticism with Claude.

I don't think Claude is a monster and all coaches have their preferences and players they like/dislike. But I don't think what Spooner said/felt is untrue. And since Claude is not the coach anymore, I don't care if he says it.

There's enough robotic answers in hockey, honesty is refreshing to me.

There's a lot more to a coach/player relationship than the games. Practice, study, etc. If a coach gets in the habit of having to ride a player in practice, it'll continue to the post game interview.
At the same time some coaches have preferences.
If Claude didn't like Spooner, I can see why, he's not an intelligent 2 way center which Claude would probably play a dozen of if he could.

 

[BruinDust]

That's a **** poor 8 year record. 3 2nd round eliminations,2 round 1 losses and 2 didn't even friggin qualify.

What a load of garbage.

If that's **** poor, I'd like to know what we call the records of coaches of other teams not named Chicago.

Once again, please stop.

 

[BergyWho37]

I don't know... I don't think much of Haggerty but I wouldn't put this on him. IMO, Spooner is an entitled little prat.

He pouted and complained to the media when Cassidy put him on the wing two years ago. He clearly didn't care for Julien's tough love approach, which is fine, not everybody has to, but consistently whining to the media looks bad on him IMHO. Seguin didn't do that. Marchand, Krejci, Pasta, Vatrano et al did't do that...

Witch one got treated like Spooner .. C'mon

Did he wreck there trade stalk by publicly ripping them ?

 

[bruins repeat time]

That's a **** poor 8 year record. 3 2nd round eliminations,2 round 1 losses and 2 didn't even friggin qualify.

got it 57 wins 40 losses not bad for someone whos system is easily cracked by a lot of guys on here . If we get that in the next ten years I will be the happiest guy on here .

 

[bruins repeat time]

Obviously we are getting this thread away from what it should be so im done with it . Lets just all hope Spooner becomes a very good player for us and helps us greatly in the future.

 

[BNHL]

got it 57 wins 40 losses not bad for someone whos system is easily cracked by a lot of guys on here . If we get that in the next ten years I will be the happiest guy on here .

You are so easily pleased. You take 1 Cup in 10 years,surround it by 8 mediocre or worse years and you're good to go. At what point isn't it good enough? 3 DNQs? 4?

 

[Ten Thousand Hours]

You are so easily pleased. You take 1 Cup in 10 years,surround it by 8 mediocre or worse years and you're good to go. At what point isn't it good enough? 3 DNQs? 4?

I'll take a Cup every 10 years. Sign me up.

 

[hoss75]

I'll take a Cup every 10 years. Sign me up.

Me too, that would be phenomenal

 

[DNE3]

I think Clode criticized Spooner after he scored 2 goals in a preseason game vs the habs.

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2014/9/24/6838189/good-game-ryan-spooner-youre-bad

Same coach who kept three-time loser Maxie Talbot hanging around just for laughs. And same coach who threw one-goal-in-fifty-games Paille out there every night without hesitation. Here we go, Soupy, here we go. And even pull-up king Trotman caught the coach's eye in a positive sort of way. But Spooner a brat no doubt. No one ever willing to check behind the bench, that is, until the train left the station with Claude still on platform.

 

[trenton1]

Spooner doesn't strike me as the brightest bulb.

Zero upside to saying something like this publicly.

Want to have that conversation with Cassidy? PERFECT.
Want to have that conversation with Sweeney? PERFECT.

Get asked a question by press on this topic? "I'm really enjoying the new system -- think it's well suited to the game I play and we're having success. I might have been kind of tight in the past, but it's all going well now for me. Regardless our focus as individuals and as a team are on the playoffs."

Spooner is a bit like Savard in that he will probably take until his late 20's to mature in all facets. I just hope the Bruins don't trade him for the modern equivalent of Ruslan Zainullin.

 

[PlayMakers]

I honestly don't remember, but I trust your memory. It was still way over the top from Julien after the game.

I often found Julien's praise for Spooner to be backhanded and condescending. I don't think he went out of his way in anyway shape or form.

Do you think Julien liked Spooner?
Do you think he was harder or him publicly than other players?
Do you think Spooner ever said anything but the "right" thing about Julien when he was here?

Do you think Julien liked Spooner?
I think Julien liked Spooner as much as any coach likes a soft, inconsistent player who insists he knows better than the coaches where he should play. I think that when Spooner played well, Julien gave him lots of ice time, so clearly there were times when Julien liked his game. I also think Cassidy has played Spooner less than Julien which begs the question, does Cassidy like Spooner?

Do you think he was harder or him publicly than other players?
I don't know... I didn't feel like Julien constantly called out Spooner. Julien called out Rask a few weeks back, but nobody seems to care. He called out Colin Miller for scoring on Rask... I do think Julien has a tough-love approach to developing young players and it's been pretty successful with everyone from Pastrnak to Marchand but the two players who have been noticeably chafed by the approach are Kessel and Spooner.

Do you think Spooner ever said anything but the "right" thing about Julien when he was here?
Yeah, I think Spooner has put his foot in his mouth a few times, not just with Julien but with Cassidy in Providence too. Any time people tried him out of center, he complained in his passive aggressive way. At the start of the year, he had a bunch of comments about how they told him they were going to try him at center and he worked really hard on faceoffs all summer, but they have him on the wing so..."

...

At the end of the day he's playing better so good on Cassidy and Spooner, but I can't imagine his coach or his teammates think highly of him for making comments that take away from what they're trying to do. They're 7-1, but the big story is Ryan Spooner right now is Ryan Spooner, it's how the NHL Network led their Bruins coverage, it's in the papers and on websites, and is the most active thread on this board.

 

[Dr Hook]

. They're 7-1, but the big story is Ryan Spooner right now is Ryan Spooner, it's how the NHL Network led their Bruins coverage, it's in the papers and on websites, and is the most active thread on this board.

Ehhh, yeah. There is something definitely wrong here. All this literal and virtual ink about a 3rd line player who is still half a prospect when we have a team that is gelling and playing well. The story should be Marchand's dominance, Bergeron's resurgence after a tough first half, Cehlarik finding his way in the NHL, Backes upping his game, Carlo steadying the ship, Rask back into form. But yeah, Ryan Spooner is the biggest story on the Bruins.

 

[jgatie]

Ehhh, yeah. There is something definitely wrong here. All this literal and virtual ink about a 3rd line player who is still half a prospect when we have a team that is gelling and playing well. The story should be Marchand's dominance, Bergeron's resurgence after a tough first half, Cehlarik finding his way in the NHL, Backes upping his game, Carlo steadying the ship, Rask back into form. But yeah, Ryan Spooner is the biggest story on the Bruins.

Click bait for Haggs the hack. Not even an original story, the Herald printed almost the exact same blurb a week ago. Haggs is just recycling old stuff to drive clicks. Probably still pissed about all the times Claude brushed him off like a dandruff flake on a black sweater.

 

[Dr Hook]

Click bait for Haggs the hack. Not even an original story, the Herald printed almost the exact same blurb a week ago. Haggs is just recycling old stuff to drive clicks. Probably still pissed about all the times Claude brushed him off like a dandruff flake on a black sweater.

poor old Haggs

 

[EverettMike]

"I'd prefer to play in the middle of the ice, it's just where I've always played. But if they want to play me on the wing, and that's where I'm going to be the best, that's where I'm going to have to play."

What's bad about that comment? How is that even whining?