Value of: Ryan Murray to the Leafs

[D3ADLY]

What would Blue Jackets want in return? Would JvR for Murray work? Who is adding here? Do the Jackets have any specific needs? Obviously both clubs need some sort of boost is there any way the 2 teams can help each other fill out holes by swapping players? Suggestions welcome on trades between these teams.

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[Sarcastic]

The Blue Jackets for possibly the first time ever look to have an extremely strong defense moving forward. Clearly at this point they should trade one of their defensemen for another forward.

 

[heretik27]

Don't the Leafs already have Rielly and Gardiner as left hand shot dmen? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to go after a RHD?

 

[mikeyp24]

The last thing the CBJ need is a wing and the last thing we want to give up is one of our top 3 D it is finally decent and looking up. The only thing that I can see us legit considering is an upgrade at C but I doubt we even do that. I don't see us making any impactful deals any time soon.

 

[Sundinisagod]

Don't the Leafs already have Rielly and Gardiner as left hand shot dmen? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to go after a RHD?

Beggers can't be choosers.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

I would think the only way Columbus gives up Murray is for a comparable age #1 C that fits their style or an elite winger also around Murray's age ( see Hall/Larsson).

 

[Finnish your Czech]

What would Blue Jackets want in return? Would JvR for Murray work? Who is adding here? Do the Jackets have any specific needs? Obviously both clubs need some sort of boost is there any way the 2 teams can help each other fill out holes by swapping players? Suggestions welcome on trades between these teams.

There isn't a good fit. You're not getting a player as good as Murray for JVR as well.

 

[Sundinisagod]

I would think the only way Columbus gives up Murray is for a comparable age #1 C that fits their style or an elite winger also around Murray's age ( see Hall/Larsson).

I highly doubt Murray gets you a 22 year old #1 C.

 

[BB88]

I highly doubt Murray gets you a 22 year old #1 C.

I don't think he's available.

 

[Pi]

Don't the Leafs already have Rielly and Gardiner as left hand shot dmen? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to go after a RHD?

Leafs not really in a hurry to upgrade the defense but I don't think they can be too picky about LHD or RHD if the right D that fits their age group is available.

Eventually the Carrick's, Marincin's and Hunwick's have to get upgraded.

 

[Viqsi]

I highly doubt Murray gets you a 22 year old #1 C.

Huh. Well. I guess that makes it equally doubtful that he's ever traded, then. Golly gosh darn.

 

[Paradise*]

Don't see why Columbus would consider trading Murray (they wouldn't), especially for a JVR

 

[Randy Randerson]

I would think the only way Columbus gives up Murray is for a comparable age #1 C that fits their style or an elite winger also around Murray's age ( see Hall/Larsson).

not saying that Murray isn't valuable, but I wouldn't use that deal as the benchmark - the whole hockey world thought it was a completely one-sided deal and very unlikely that it sets a precedent

 

[Randy Randerson]

Don't see why Columbus would consider trading Murray (they wouldn't), especially for a JVR

At this point, it looks like Columbus has 3 young defenseman that are/will be worth of a top pairing so Murray could be trade bait in a deal-from-strength scenario

I don't see CBJ as ready to compete, so agree that 27 yo wingers are probably not the target if he gets traded but I could see Murray getting dealt if Werenski turns out

 

[Sarcastic]

At this point, it looks like Columbus has 3 young defenseman that are/will be worth of a top pairing so Murray could be trade bait in a deal-from-strength scenario

I don't see CBJ as ready to compete, so agree that 27 yo wingers are probably not the target if he gets traded but I could see Murray getting dealt if Werenski turns out

Why don't they just keep all 3 so there's always a top level defenseman on the ice?

 

[TaketheCannoli]

not saying that Murray isn't valuable, but I wouldn't use that deal as the benchmark - the whole hockey world thought it was a completely one-sided deal and very unlikely that it sets a precedent

Well then there is no reason to trade him. Young top pair blue liners are very hard to get. Ask yourself what does Toronto want for Reilly?

At this point, it looks like Columbus has 3 young defenseman that are/will be worth of a top pairing so Murray could be trade bait in a deal-from-strength scenario

I don't see CBJ as ready to compete, so agree that 27 yo wingers are probably not the target if he gets traded but I could see Murray getting dealt if Werenski turns out

As someone else posted, why not keep them all?

 

[howkie]

Well then there is no reason to trade him. Young top pair blue liners are very hard to get. Ask yourself what does Toronto want for Reilly?




As someone else posted, why not keep them all?

Doesn´t suit Leafs... thats why

 

[AvroArrow]

RHD. We need a RHD.

 

[Gavy]

As good as Murray is, I'm not risking the price it would take to get him for someone who is always hurt

 

[93LEAFS]

Isn't Murray injured again? I love the kids game, his track record of stay healthy though is terrible. Didn't he miss a game this week for a foot injury, try to come back then only played 5 minutes?

Edit:Its not the foot, its a new injury, got an elbow to the head it sounds like and is now out with an "upper-body" injury.

 

[trick9]

Rielly, propably.

 

[DrTucker]

Murray will never get a fair return in trade strictly due to injury concerns. At best he'd return a good (not great) 2C. From Toronto I'd not be more comfortable giving up a Bozak and a 2nd/3rd. Strictly because he seems only capable of playing 50 ish games a year (yes he played 82 last year) If he put up more points (.5 PPG ish) i think he could command more too, but for a guy who isn't a high scoring D man who doesn't play full seasons the return won't be great for Columbus

 

[Gavy]

Rielly, propably.

Why would we give up the better Dman for a dman who can't stay healthy?

 

[Gavy]

Murray will never get a fair return in trade strictly due to injury concerns. At best he'd return a good (not great) 2C. From Toronto I'd not be more comfortable giving up a Bozak and a 2nd/3rd. Strictly because he seems only capable of playing 50 ish games a year (yes he played 82 last year) If he put up more points (.5 PPG ish) i think he could command more too, but for a guy who isn't a high scoring D man who doesn't play full seasons the return won't be great for Columbus

That's not enough for Murray potential. When he is healthy he shows lots of signs of being a 1D.

 

[WannabeFinn]

He isn't available.