Proposal: Ryan Miller to LA

[Frankie Blueberries]

Canucks do not have enough NHL goalies to trade one.

Canucks do not benefit from LA saving their season.

Miller should have greater value at the deadline.

Nailed it.
Whether people here feel this way or not, management actually believes we'll make the playoffs. So why sacrifice our team to help LA?

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Even with Jimbo at the wheel you are not likely to receive Miller for anything short of a 1st or second draft pick or a decent prospect plus a pick. Don't want to pay that? So be it. We're in no rush to trade him, we don't have an injured #1 goalie with no replacement and we want to contend for a playoff spot. Why should we assist a rival in doing the same while receiving no incentive? Miller could very well sign on another year with us or retire a Canuck, who knows?

edit: got rid of my proposals. We need a goalie coming back with a high pick or we risk losing Markstrom to the expansion.

edit II: Amadio + 2nd + Zatkoff + Greene is roughly what it would take to have us consider. If we were an eastern team it would be more like a 2nd + Budaj but were your rival plus you need to shed some salary.

lmao your dreaming if u think hes worth a 2nd without taking greene and no way in hell are we adding amadio

 

[nucksauce]

lmao your dreaming if u think hes worth a 2nd without taking greene and no way in hell are we adding amadio

Then look elsewhere. We don't need or have to trade Miller. By accepting a cap dump we are doing you another favour.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Then look elsewhere. We don't need or have to trade Miller. By accepting a cap dump we are doing you another favour.

hes a 36 year old ufa after this season a 2nd another backup goalie signed for next year and a rhd defense man signed for next year at a reasonable 2.5 is a hell of a offer. YOu want to let him go for nothing like you did with Hamhuis that fine by me but i don't think its smart management but thats your choice

 

[Skirbs1011]

hes a 36 year old ufa after this season a 2nd another backup goalie signed for next year and a rhd defense man signed for next year at a reasonable 2.5 is a hell of a offer. YOu want to let him go for nothing like you did with Hamhuis that fine by me but i don't think its smart management but thats your choice

Would rather let him and his 6Mill go for free than have to take on 2.5 of greene, and in turn watch LA take on MAF or Pavlec and there lengthy deals.

Edit even if we did that deal you still cant afford his 6M cap hit.

 

[Kingspiracy]

hes a 36 year old ufa after this season a 2nd another backup goalie signed for next year and a rhd defense man signed for next year at a reasonable 2.5 is a hell of a offer. YOu want to let him go for nothing like you did with Hamhuis that fine by me but i don't think its smart management but thats your choice

Matt Greene for 2.5 mill? That would've been good if it was the Matt Greene from five year ago, unfortunately it's the 2016 version that we have.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Would rather let him and his 6Mill go for free than have to take on 2.5 of greene, and in turn watch LA take on MAF or Pavlec and there lengthy deals.

Edit even if we did that deal you still cant afford his 6M cap hit.

palvec is ufa after this year so not sure why you are saying hes a lengthy deal. As for your edit Only way we take miller is if vancouver is retaining 40-50%

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Matt Greene for 2.5 mill? That would've been good if it was the Matt Greene from five year ago, unfortunately it's the 2016 version that we have.

I think in a new system he would have better results Also i think he could be a good influence over the vans younger defense man and locker room

 

[nucksauce]

hes a 36 year old ufa after this season a 2nd another backup goalie signed for next year and a rhd defense man signed for next year at a reasonable 2.5 is a hell of a offer. YOu want to let him go for nothing like you did with Hamhuis that fine by me but i don't think its smart management but thats your choice

There are a lot of underlying reasons for this though. Our management team believes we will be in hunt for a playoff spot, we need a strong goalie tandem to do this. We have Markstrom whom is a 1b option but having Miller to ease him into a starting position is worth "losing him" going forward into next season. Remember, he was a UFA signing (like hammer) that never cost us any assets. We have a top prospect in Demko getting groomed in Utica. We have a logjam at defense with no need for Greene and no NHL caliber goalies to jump in as a back-up. Why trade Miller (our best current goalie) and be left with a worse tandem than LA will have, a team in our division. GM's are not in the business of doing their neighbors any favours. Van depends on a team like LA faltering for us to take advantage in the standings. We probably see this as a great scenario as should the Jets both teams want in the post season and can dangle a goalie around the TDL if the playoffs are out of reach.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

There are a lot of underlying reasons for this though. Our management team believes we will be in hunt for a playoff spot, we need a strong goalie tandem to do this. We have Markstrom whom is a 1b option but having Miller to ease him into a starting position is worth "losing him" going forward into next season. Remember, he was a UFA signing (like hammer) that never cost us any assets. We have a top prospect in Demko getting groomed in Utica. We have a logjam at defense with no need for Greene and no NHL caliber goalies to jump in as a back-up. Why trade Miller (our best current goalie) and be left with a worse tandem than LA will have, a team in our division. GM's are not in the business of doing their neighbors any favours. Van depends on a team like LA faltering for us to take advantage in the standings. We probably see this as a great scenario as should the Jets both teams want in the post season and can dangle a goalie around the TDL if the playoffs are out of reach.

I don't think miller is your best goalie to be honest i would play markstrom over him but that s just me. If your sold on your team actually contending than i aint going to p in your kool aid I wish you the best in that area because i think ur more in a nolan patrick race then a cup race

 

[nuckfan insk]

Clague or a second this year and budaj
For Miller @50% retain

But benning won't....... this is the same guy that wouldn't deal hamhuis at the deadline

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Clague or a second this year and budaj
For Miller @50% retain

But benning won't....... this is the same guy that wouldn't deal hamhuis at the deadline

hes not worth a top prospect or a 2nd without a cap dump going with it sorry

3rd and Budaj or 2nd greene and budaj for miller at 50 % or 40% with greene going

 

[Bleedred]

Pretty sure the Kings need zatkoff for the expansion draft.

I thought they only signed him for one year? I thought it has to be someone signed for more than one year? But I'm still not sure the rules and exactly how that all works.

They're just throwing turds at a wall if they think Pavelec is the answer. Pavelec might be even worse than the guys they got now, although he could possibly thrive in a backup spot and playing sparingly. They already got lucky once by using a terrible goaltender (Sievens) and it working out for them by him hitting a hot streak, the last time Quick got injured a few years back.

 

[TruGr1t]

Would probably be a good fit for the Kings. Performing at a high level and short contract.

Canucks should probably logically be trying to move him, but our organization can't justify moving the starter when you're telling everyone the goal is to compete.

 

[clunk]

Makes sense for Miller and both teams tbh... I would do it.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Greene is done, slow and awful at this point. He is not worth 2nd. Maybe and a huge maybe at the trade deadline.

 

[Bleedred]

Any interest in Jimmy Howard perhaps?

Jonesey said on the NBC post game that if Howard can string together 4 or 5 more games like this tonight, someone might trade for him!

 

[Bleedred]

Greene is done, slow and awful at this point. He is not worth 2nd. Maybe and a huge maybe at the trade deadline.

Anyone who trades a 2nd for Greene should really be given a field sobriety test.

I wasn't even aware that LAK did not buy him out, until I saw him in the first game of the season. I remember getting an alert text on my phone from the NHL app back on June 30th or whatever, where they said he was being placed on waivers for the purpose of a buyout.

Then I see him on opening night and I'm like ''Whhaaaaaaa????'' and was told that they changed their minds or something.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Anyone who trades a 2nd for Greene should really be given a field sobriety test.

I wasn't even aware that LAK did not buy him out, until I saw him in the first game of the season. I remember getting an alert text on my phone from the NHL app back on June 30th or whatever, where they said he was being placed on waivers for the purpose of a buyout.

Then I see him on opening night and I'm like ''Whhaaaaaaa????'' and was told that they changed their minds or something.

Yeah! I've watched 3 LA games so far including pre season and i have to say he is one of the worst dmen in the league.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Anyone who trades a 2nd for Greene should really be given a field sobriety test.

I wasn't even aware that LAK did not buy him out, until I saw him in the first game of the season. I remember getting an alert text on my phone from the NHL app back on June 30th or whatever, where they said he was being placed on waivers for the purpose of a buyout.

Then I see him on opening night and I'm like ''Whhaaaaaaa????'' and was told that they changed their minds or something.

its a 2nd and greene and budja for miller at 40% off You need to go back and reread my friend

 

[Skirbs1011]

its a 2nd and greene and budja for miller at 40% off You need to go back and reread my friend

loosing miller and his 6M at the end of the season has more value then that package

 

[Killer Orcas]

Miller @ 50% retained for a 1st other wise look elsewhere. Canucks wanna make playoffs and without a goalie Kings might miss why do we help them? Only if it helps us first that's why. Take it or leave it. If Kings really lose more then they win by game 20 they will be jumping on this deal if Miller keeps playing well.

 

[Bleedred]

its a 2nd and greene and budja for miller at 40% off You need to go back and reread my friend

My Apologies.

Seems fairly reasonable for cap relief in taking on Miller, but I don't think Benning wants Greene.

It is Benning though, but knowing him, I don't even think he'd wanna even trade Miller at all.

Yeah! I've watched 3 LA games so far including pre season and i have to say he is one of the worst dmen in the league.

He's definitely cooked. Gun to my head, I'd rather re-sign Schenn for a million or less per and buyout Greene.

That's not a vote of confidence at Schenn, just that I think he's the lesser of suck.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Miller @ 50% retained for a 1st other wise look elsewhere. Canucks wanna make playoffs and without a goalie Kings might miss why do we help them? Only if it helps us first that's why. Take it or leave it. If Kings really lose more then they win by game 20 they will be jumping on this deal if Miller keeps playing well.

a 36 year old goalie coming off a 17 win 24 losses 2.70 gaa season is not worth a 1st period your dreaming if you think he is. Goalies don't have that worth Kings aren't paying that and no other team will.

 

[Killer Orcas]

a 36 year old goalie coming off a 17 win 24 losses 2.70 gaa season is not worth a 1st period your dreaming if you think he is. Goalies don't have that worth Kings aren't paying that and no other team will.

Oh I realize that is a over pay but what incentive do Canucks have otherwise to help Kings? Kings are contenders with a capable goalie without well you've seen them?