Confirmed with Link: Ryan McLeod & Ty Tullio traded to Buffalo for Matthew Savoie

[SnuggaRUDE]

Nazar would have been my pick after Detroit took Kasper. My dream scenario was walking away with both.

 

[Ace]

What if I told you there was a player in that draft who led his AHL team in goals two years in a row as a teenager while missing weeks each year to lead his non-powerhouse WJC team to silver and bronze medals?

 

[Sanderson]

Again, there is a whole lot of nothing in that first round thus far:

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That is kind of normal for a draft that happened just two years ago, no?
Outside of the most high-end prospects, players do not get to the NHL before finishing their junior career, and often they add at least one or two years in the AHL on top of that. These players aren't even old enough to have gotten to the latter part of that yet.

Things don't look much different for the 2021 draft right now, and those players have another year since their draft. Outside the top 10, only Wyatt Johnston and Cole Sillinger have gotten into a significant number of games, and the latter has stagnated since being rushed to the NHL.

2020 has a few more, but if you just look at who got to play in their first two seasons after the draft, it's still just five players outside the top 10 with any noteworthy amount of NHL-games: Jarvis, Lundell (late 2001), Schneider (late 2001), Mercer (late 2001), Chinakov (overager). In comparison, the 2022 draft did have four late 2003s in the 1st round outside the top ten, but the earliest pick of those was Nathan Gaucher at 22, while all the players from the 2020 draft mentioned above came between 10 and 20. If you just look at the 2002 and 2004s respectively, the outcome is basically identical.

2019 only had Tobias Bjornfot play quite a lot before this third post-draft season.

 

[Chainshot]

That is kind of normal for a draft that happened just two years ago, no?
Outside of the most high-end prospects, players do not get to the NHL before finishing their junior career, and often they add at least one or two years in the AHL on top of that. These players aren't even old enough to have gotten to the latter part of that yet.

Things don't look much different for the 2021 draft right now, and those players have another year since their draft. Outside the top 10, only Wyatt Johnston and Cole Sillinger have gotten into a significant number of games, and the latter has stagnated since being rushed to the NHL.

2020 has a few more, but if you just look at who got to play in their first two seasons after the draft, it's still just five players outside the top 10 with any noteworthy amount of NHL-games: Jarvis, Lundell (late 2001), Schneider (late 2001), Mercer (late 2001), Chinakov (overager). In comparison, the 2022 draft did have four late 2003s in the 1st round outside the top ten, but the earliest pick of those was Nathan Gaucher at 22, while all the players from the 2020 draft mentioned above came between 10 and 20. If you just look at the 2002 and 2004s respectively, the outcome is basically identical.

2019 only had Tobias Bjornfot play quite a lot before this third post-draft season.

Exactly. Saying that somehow the 8OA was great or was a swing and a miss when it’s still a whole lot of nothing. We don’t know. There is no indictment of management for taking a player who was rated where he was at the position that he was taken, and then finding that they could use that player to approve in another area.

 

[Djp]

That is kind of normal for a draft that happened just two years ago, no?
Outside of the most high-end prospects, players do not get to the NHL before finishing their junior career, and often they add at least one or two years in the AHL on top of that. These players aren't even old enough to have gotten to the latter part of that yet.

Things don't look much different for the 2021 draft right now, and those players have another year since their draft. Outside the top 10, only Wyatt Johnston and Cole Sillinger have gotten into a significant number of games, and the latter has stagnated since being rushed to the NHL.

2020 has a few more, but if you just look at who got to play in their first two seasons after the draft, it's still just five players outside the top 10 with any noteworthy amount of NHL-games: Jarvis, Lundell (late 2001), Schneider (late 2001), Mercer (late 2001), Chinakov (overager). In comparison, the 2022 draft did have four late 2003s in the 1st round outside the top ten, but the earliest pick of those was Nathan Gaucher at 22, while all the players from the 2020 draft mentioned above came between 10 and 20. If you just look at the 2002 and 2004s respectively, the outcome is basically identical.

2019 only had Tobias Bjornfot play quite a lot before this third post-draft season.

Never reference the 2021 draft as some benchmark. It was messed up dur to Covid limited play

 

[Sanderson]

Never reference the 2021 draft as some benchmark. It was messed up dur to Covid limited play

I didn't. I specifically mentioned the last few drafts. Like you do when you compare things...

 

[Chainshot]

Just to warn you all, Matt's on a run (12 points in 6 games, 10 in 4) and tearing it up for Bakersfield.

I'm sure that will make everyone unhappy with this trade rage for a while but I'm happy for Matt - haven't followed someone like that in junior in years, hard to cut the strings.

 

[joshjull]

Just to warn you all, Matt's on a run (12 points in 6 games, 10 in 4) and tearing it up for Bakersfield.

I'm sure that will make everyone unhappy with this trade rage for a while but I'm happy for Matt - haven't followed someone like that in junior in years, hard to cut the strings.

Good for him. He’s certainly had a bumpy ride or sorts the last few years.

 

[Fjordy]

McLeod has definitely cooled off after a bright start, now he plays like a 4C, although I liked the Zucker - McLeod - Greenway line, it's a shame Jordan suffers from injuries.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Just to warn you all, Matt's on a run (12 points in 6 games, 10 in 4) and tearing it up for Bakersfield.

I'm sure that will make everyone unhappy with this trade rage for a while but I'm happy for Matt - haven't followed someone like that in junior in years, hard to cut the strings.

Doesn’t matter anymore really

 

[Dubi Doo]

Just to warn you all, Matt's on a run (12 points in 6 games, 10 in 4) and tearing it up for Bakersfield.

I'm sure that will make everyone unhappy with this trade rage for a while but I'm happy for Matt - haven't followed someone like that in junior in years, hard to cut the strings.

The best part about sucking for so long is I can careless about winning or losing trades. That's the low hanging fruit.