Player Discussion Ryan Lindgren

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Vince Mercogliano was on The NHL Network. He said Lindgren's injury occurred in the last game of the regular season in the last minute against Washington. He put puck off his foot.
I knew it was that game. ESPN+ lets you go back and re-watch the game, even in market. He's got a left ankle/knee injury, maybe both. He went down and grabbed his ankle. Probably a a high ankle sprain. Went to push off to get back toward the net and just went down and grabbed it.

If it is a regular ankle sprain, he probably is going back to the room to get it taped again. If it is a high ankle sprain, I'm not sure how he is playing.
 
Lindgren is the type of player you don't sign for more than 3-4 years at a time. He gets bruised up a lot, a long term deal would probably be bad.

With that said, I f***ing love Lindgren. What a warrior! Good first pass and a good skater as well!
He's the type of player you win with.His importance to the team far outweighs the concerns.You lock him up long term and worry about injuries and such later on.Its also criminal this guy doesn't have an A too
 
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He's the type of player you win with.His importance to the team far outweighs the concerns.You lock him up long term and worry about injuries and such later on.Its also criminal this guy doesn't have an A too
Nah, sign him for 3-4 years at a time. He will rarely get big raises due to his lack of points. There's basically nothing to gain from giving him 6 years or more, just headache.

We do not want another Staal/Girardi situation.
 
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Really? Because Zibanejad have played very well for us since the end of the Pens series and he has put up a lot of points. So if he continues this pace he'll have a lot of points.

And Shesty has been amazing outside of those 2 games vs Pens.

He let in a soft goal last game but he was very good the whole game!

But Lindgren is definitely top 3.

We desperately need him if we're going to win every series.
I meant if their play throughout the playoffs stayed the same not just their most recent play, so if Mika had many more disappearing acts. Yea he was our best player for a few games, 7pts in 2GP. Crazy! But he was also possibly our worst player for several games too and we were all saying he has no heart and isn’t a playoff player lol then he went full carnivore

Mika is always inconsistent though and I bet if we go all the way he would have more stretches of bad games too. Shesty is getting better and better again last game was over .970, game before was over .950

I’d have Shesty and Lindgren before Mika for sure
 
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Nah, sign him for 3-4 years at a time. He will rarely get big raises due to his lack of points. There's basically nothing to gain from giving him 6 years or more, just headache.

We do not want another Staal/Girardi situation.

Staal and Girardi were in their early 30;s when their bodys started to breakdown and decline. Lindy is 23yo. Everyone needs to stop with the comparisons that he is already broken like staal and girardi became. Lindy can continue to be signed to 3 year bridge deals for his next 2 contracts.. Lindy will be good until the same age of early 30's which means lindgren should be more than okay for another 6-8 years.

Youre right, he wont get a big raise regardless. It may go up to 3.5-4. per instead of the 3 he is making now but he is beyond affordable and NEEDS to be kept. He is a warrior. He is who you win cups with.
 
I meant if their play throughout the playoffs stayed the same not just their most recent play, so if Mika had many more disappearing acts. Yea he was our best player for a few games, 7pts in 2GP. Crazy! But he was also possibly our worst player for several games too and we were all saying he has no heart and isn’t a playoff player lol then he went full carnivore

Mika is always inconsistent though and I bet if we go all the way he would have more stretches of bad games too. Shesty is getting better and better again last game was over .970, game before was over .950

I’d have Shesty and Lindgren before Mika for sure
Yeah, Mika is streaky but when he doesn't score he usally steals pucks and so on forth. He needs to be better at draws though, just like the rest of our team.

Mika at least does something with his 2-way play when his offense isn't there. He's very good with his stick.

Panarin is worthless when he doesn't score for instance.

Even though Mika has been inconsistent, he's a big reason we won against the Pens and our last game vs Canes. He showed up when we needed him!

IDGAF who people rank the highest of them.

LAF, Miller, Lindgren, Mika, Fox (offensively), Kreider have all been good for us. Kreider and Mika are both streaky but they've gotten warmed up now and they've started to put up points, which is important.
 
Staal and Girardi were in their early 30;s when their bodys started to breakdown and decline. Lindy is 23yo. Everyone needs to stop with the comparisons that he is already broken like staal and girardi became. Lindy can continue to be signed to 3 year bridge deals for his next 2 contracts.. Lindy will be good until the same age of early 30's which means lindgren should be more than okay for another 6-8 years.

Youre right, he wont get a big raise regardless. It may go up to 3.5-4. per instead of the 3 he is making now but he is beyond affordable and NEEDS to be kept. He is a warrior. He is who you win cups with.
Hence why I think it is better do re-sign him for 3-4 years at a time. We would (most likely) not save a lot of $ on signing him for 6 vs 4 years. Not enough for me to think it is worth the risk. 8 years is insane, unless we get him for $3.5M AAV at the most.

Players like him (almost no one should get 8 year deals) do not get 8 year deals, that's crazy and it sets a weird precedent. What if his body breaks down before 30? He is only 24 now, yeah. But a 8 year deal for a physical player with a lot of injuries etc already seems dumb.

I'd get it if it would save us 2+ million per year, yeah. But it won't because he shouldn't make that much $ IMO.
 
Hence why I think it is better do re-sign him for 3-4 years at a time. We would (most likely) not save a lot of $ on signing him for 6 vs 4 years. Not enough for me to think it is worth the risk. 8 years is insane, unless we get him for $3.5M AAV at the most.

Players like him (almost no one should get 8 year deals) do not get 8 year deals, that's crazy and it sets a weird precedent. What if his body breaks down before 30? He is only 24 now, yeah. But a 8 year deal for a physical player with a lot of injuries etc already seems dumb.

I'd get it if it would save us 2+ million per year, yeah. But it won't because he shouldn't make that much $ IMO.

Oh I'm not saying to give him an 8 year deal, never was. I'm calling for people to stop trying to include him in deals to remove his measly 3m per contract, or saying we shouldn't resign him again bc he could be broken down by next year. Like we have stated he is 24yo. Has probably 8 years left. Im cool with continuously giving him 3 years 3m per for his next two contracts.

Also no offense but that 2m per year could end up being the difference in being able to resign Miller, or laffy, or Copp or being able to have Motte.

Seriously it all depends on the outlook of the team. Giving Lindy a 6 year deal worth 3 per isnt setting a bad precedence, you are showing that if you work your ass off, give yourself to this team completely, and are the epitome of rangers hockey, you should be rewarded and kept. There are two sides to every coin.
 
Lindgren is still signed for 2 more years, which will take him to 26. If Lindgren wanted a 6 year deal at 3.5M at that time, I would give it to him in a heartbeat. Even if he broke down at 30 - which is an assumption based on how he plays, not a guarantee… some guys just take the beatings and keep ticking - 3.5M for a guy like him is fine on your bottom pair and can be moved if necessary, just based on the reputation he’ll have as a solid, playoff experienced veteran warrior by then.
 
Oh I'm not saying to give him an 8 year deal, never was. I'm calling for people to stop trying to include him in deals to remove his measly 3m per contract, or saying we shouldn't resign him again bc he could be broken down by next year. Like we have stated he is 24yo. Has probably 8 years left. Im cool with continuously giving him 3 years 3m per for his next two contracts.

Also no offense but that 2m per year could end up being the difference in being able to resign Miller, or laffy, or Copp or being able to have Motte.

Seriously it all depends on the outlook of the team. Giving Lindy a 6 year deal worth 3 per isnt setting a bad precedence, you are showing that if you work your ass off, give yourself to this team completely, and are the epitome of rangers hockey, you should be rewarded and kept. There are two sides to every coin.
4 years would be ideal, 6 years if it gets his $ down quite a bit.

What do you think he'd cost 4 years vs 6 years.
 
Lindgren might be the toughest pound for pound player in the league. He takes so many hits and immediately jumps right back up and dishes out his own. Give him an A next year whether they keep this dumb 6 A system or not
 
4 years would be ideal, 6 years if it gets his $ down quite a bit.

What do you think he'd cost 4 years vs 6 years.

I honestly dont know, I thought we stole him for his current price @3m per. I would think he would get some type of increase on his year cap hit if its 4 years. Prob 4m per 4? i think if its 6 it could be 3.5m per. But im honestly guessing here. Cap hits usually rise for players who put up gaudy points. So i dont think he would break any banks.
 
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Call me crazy but Idk if I'm keeping Lindgren any longer than his contract. Better a year early than a year late: see Dan Girardi and Marc Staal. We have a great pipeline anyway.

If the cap really goes up then I overpay for 2 years, instead of paying his value of 4+.
 
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I'd probably give him a 2-3 year deal at the end of this current contract. But yes, no Staal/Girardi contracts for players like him whose wear and tear gets to them.
 
Call me crazy but Idk if I'm keeping Lindgren any longer than his contract. Better a year early than a year late: see Dan Girardi and Marc Staal. We have a great pipeline anyway.

If the cap really goes up then I overpay for 2 years, instead of paying his value of 4+.
It’s not crazy, they’d be silly to do it. If they do then the team has learned nothing from Girardi and Staal.

Thanks for time guys, we’ll let someone else pay you your retirement contract where you’re bound to break down
 
Has made up for a really subpar regular season in the playoffs.

I don't know why he shied away from the physical stuff in the RS. He plays so much better when he's physically engaged.
Because if he did he be half dead before the POs began.
He did just enough to help us get to over 100 points
Now is the time to lay it all out.
Im sure this is what his career will be going forward. No way he can play this way a whole season plus POs
And this season proved we can win with him playing during the reg season with the pedal only half down. Saving beast mode for the playoffs.
Im good with that.
 
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