Prospect Info: Ryan Johnson, D, 2019 #31 overall: Signed, Rochester (AHL), Recalled 12/5/24
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dotcommunism
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They could try to incentivize him to pick their preference by how they structure bonuses, sure. But consider also that Johnson is far more likely to actually achieve his performance bonuses in 2025-26 (year three of an ELC that starts next season) than he is in either of the next two years. When you also consider that if his ELC starts this season, he's probably more likely to accept a QO when it expires than sign a big extension right away, it could quite possibly end up actually costing the Sabres more money in the long run if they get their way.
The Dreger bit - Brisson is the advisor, and yes he spoke with Dreger last night. That guy again.
ValJamesDuex
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Dreger appearance:The Dreger bit - Brisson is the advisor, and yes he spoke with Dreger last night. That guy again.
If someone else posted this pls dlt, just have a moment on break
Zman5778
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The Dreger bit - Brisson is the advisor, and yes he spoke with Dreger last night. That guy again.
**** Brisson with the business end of a barbed-wire-wrapped baseball bat.
The little media echo chamber this front office has assembled is probably the most impressive thing they've done. I don't recall any other GM who had mouthpieces getting their narratives out to the local market quicker than Adams has.
Zman5778
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Huh? The Sabres front office doesn't leak much at all. Like.....they're pretty air tight.
It's not really "leaks", it's talking points to drive the media narratives and online discussion. In this specific example, the idea of that the Sabres were 'deciding between signing him or taking the picks' magically surfaced when Johnson didn't sign immediately. It wasn't reported anywhere that taking the pick was even a consideration. It's like how the broadcast talking points switched to ' the future is bright' when the Sabres dropped out of the playoff race in mid march.
There is a concerted effort here to control how the local media covers the Sabres, moreso since Adams took over than any other GM in memory. It really was obvious when the Eichel situation broke open. The local media turned on Eichel quicker than I have ever seen. It didn't happen with Peca, it didn't happen with Hasek. Just magically, the problem wasn't ownership, it wasn't management, it was Eichel all along.
Zman5778
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There's a big difference between Peca/Hasek/Eichel. Peca was beloved by everyone. Hasek could be a jerk, but he was the best goalie in Sabres history.
I get the feeling that the local media was just waiting to turn on the little twat Eichel. Always got the feeling that he loathed the Buffalo media.
truthbluth
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Dreger talking out of his ass. He's talking like the Sabres have another year on Johnson. He doesn't even know the situation.
Zman5778
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Dreger? Talking out his ass? Never........................
Gabrielor
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A combination of Eichel never doing anything to make the team better and Eichel having Sabres alum basically lined up to call him an asshole, did the work without Adams having to do anything.
Eichel is a massive asshole. take that as insider info.
Without a full relitigation, Adams came out after that press conference that Eichel had and blamed all the Woes of the Sabres on 'players who don't want to be here" and that they want "players that want to be here". And the local media ran with it for the entire summer.
The draft pick thing isn't new. That was a comment from Lance months ago and PHam prior to him, with Lance straight up saying he had nothing to go on other than a hunch. Dreger's comments came directly from Brisson. The only people creating this draft pick convo are hand-wringing fans and a couple of members of the local press who have zero source credibility.
Because Eichel was a massive bag of assholes behind the scenes that they hadn't reported upon while Peca and Hasek (outside of with Kelley) were respected off the ice for how they were as people and how they were know to treat people?
Every NCAA player can technically play five seasons if they were on a roster during the 2019-20 season.
The CBA reads somewhat unclear, but says the signing rights are retained “through the graduation of his college class”. I am not sure if any drafted player has chosen to play five years yet and if there is precedence for the rights being retained during the extra year.
Not saying it’s realistic - just playing devil’s advocate.
old kummelweck
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Today on Sabres live:
"He's taking his time, he's thinking things through, and we'll see where it goes. But I would characterize it as a real positive meeting." - Adams
"He's taking his time, he's thinking things through, and we'll see where it goes. But I would characterize it as a real positive meeting." - Adams
Sabretooth
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His rights being traded wouldn't change anything about his ability to go to FA though.
Also anybody trading for his rights would have to offer up at least a 2nd rnd pick to make it worthwhile for the sabres. So even if the sabres knew he wasn't signing all along, doubtful they could find a buyer to give more value than just letting him walk.
Jim Bob
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I doubt there is a trade that really makes sense unless it was Johnson for a '23 3rd which gets Buffalo the pick a year sooner than the comp pick. And you lose value by accelerating the pick a year.
As much as I love a good hockey conspiracy, I think the "take the pick over Johnson" angle was always going to be speculated on by many around the league.
On these boards alone that exact speculation has been circling around since early on in the 22-23 season when Johnson was not performing at a 2nd round pick value.
Somebody finally broaching the subject in the media was just inevitable imo.
And we all know how the media loves to sensationalize everything for traffic, clicks, and self-promoting chatter. Once the theory was out on these boards alone, it was almost guaranteed that some pundit somewhere was going to spin the idea as "I'm hearing..." and then it would somehow become "potential fact".
The media picks up on it because it is scandalous and it creates buzz and it drives interest to their outlets, which is usually their actual top priority. How their actions will reflect on Adams is more than likely not even remotely on their radar.
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It’s a scenario…..
toddkaz
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You might be able to squeeze a higher 2nd from Anaheim, San Jose or LA if they feel it has some sort negotiating advantage and if he wants to play out west but other than that ya its gonna be tough to get any more value out of him.
Not necessarily- remember this is trading for a developed player not a pick or pick trade. The player is more accelerated than that pick and at least an nhl depth d - therefore it probably has more worth than you say. It’s not just a 2024 2 for a pick this year.
I mean Portillo and other unsigned college guys are going for a 3 with no guarantee they sign and no minimum trade value. So at least he’s a higher 2 this year + or equivalent of a 2 next plus whatever the worth of a legit college potential ufa is ( so 2+3 if we are basing this historically…)
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