How many games has the Jackets leading scorer (and to some the only way they can score) played?
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How many games has the Jackets leading scorer (and to some the only way they can score) played?
So now we are not only throwing out joeys first 2 years of stats, as they were turrible, but we are shifting the paradigm to argue attained age of player when they entered the nhl. Wow
No one's throwing out Joeys first two years of stats, but his next contract pays him over what he is expected to do over the course of his next contract, not what he did as a 19 year old. What don't you understand about this?
That has absolutely nothing to do with anything related to the point being discussed. Maybe read the source of discussion before responding? If anything the fact that Joey hasn't played this pre-season backs up my point.
You said we were leading the league in scoring because other top scorers aren't playing. I.E. Pittsburgh would be ahead of us if they were playing. Well, how are other teams not ahead of us if our top scorer isn't playing? The reason? We score based on our complete team, depth, and system. It really is funny to read your opinions and how you try to back them up.
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Which is why a pay raise from 1 mill to 3.5 for the next 2 seasons is what you see from every player in his position. Or they get offered a contract like skinner, who won a Calder and has an all star game under his belt, and turns that down even though he has much less production, because he's 6'4 and deserves 6.5 mill
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The system is set up so you get paid based on what you have done, not what your going to do.
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Maybe JD and Jarmo should have watched this training video before beginning negotiations with Ryan so as to prevent the process from getting contentious...
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Absolutely. The level of stupidity some people are willing to embrace, only to justify a kid getting nearly double what the market says he's worth, is beyond absurd.
I'll say it again. Pay the kid what's he worth, and then some more, but let's not make the mistakes of previous front offices. Bend over backward for Johansen, but don't bend over forward.
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When I got here we were at post number Babe Ruth (714) moving towards Barry Bonds and 1k. Non essential comment (not that most here are essential) now moves us one closer.
To help keep this moving forward,I'd be interested in knowing if Joey is more effective than Paul Stastney when he receives the puck from someone other than a D man on a breakout after having started in the D zone? Anyone?
No other player who signed as an RFA this season was pencilled in as his teams #1 center and leading goal scorer and is set to be relied upon as the focal point of the team.
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that's a terrible arguement...
he's a defacto #1 b/c we can't develop or keep or buy a #1C to save our *****...
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I don't really believe it's greed per se. In order to become a true #1 center, one of the top 10 -12 in the NHL he must be ultra competitive. Johansen needs to believe he is as good as Toews, Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaff or whomever else he chooses. One way many of us keep score is how much we earn. Other ultra competitive types, like Michael Jordan or Lebron James take a different approach and will give up some salary to make his team more competitive. However, their situation is much different since both earn more from endorsements than they do or did in salary.
I like that Johansen thinks he's worth a lot. I would much rather he think he is as good as Crosby than thinking he is a mid-tier player. I also believe in the end he will sign for comparable dollars to other bridge deals. I think he might very well use that as fuel to prove to the hockey world that he is right and is an elite player, or at least I hope so anyway.
I don't disagree, but I want him to also be smart 
. He is only hurting his development and future by holding out. He also could be hurting his chances to earn more in the future if he has a bad year this year, beacause he held out some.
. He is only hurting his development and future by holding out. He also could be hurting his chances to earn more in the future if he has a bad year this year, beacause he held out some.
Johansen never has been "the focal point of the team." This team was built to NOT HAVE a key player. We don't even have a captain, but if we did, Joey's name never comes up in the discussion.
He is not penciled in as the leading goal scorer. Any Jacket is free to become the leading goal scorer without threat of reprisal from management.
This doesn't make any sense. I know you're all in on the JD Kool-aid, but um, saying we don't need any key players? Really? And who cares about if Joey is the captain or not?
Bob is our most important player because he's the goalie, but um, how is our number one center, main goal scorer and playmaker, not a "key player" and how on earth is not having key players feasable for a winning team?
This comment doesn't make any sense. You can pencil in Crosby as the Pens leading scorer, or Getzlaf or Perry as the Ducks leading scorer. It's not really controversial to do that with a team's best player or leading scorer from the year before. "Threats of reprisal for management?" Sheesh. But sorry for not including a disclaimer that yes, Jerry D'Amigo is free to aim for the Rocket Richard.
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