Ryan Johansen Saga III

[KJ Dangler]

I don't know. I tend to think it's just that it's too close to Dubinsky's deal and Johansen seems hung up on that 1st/2nd line thing.

I'm not even convinced this is bad advice from the agent. Johansen might be pushing this demand more then Overhardt.

So he should take the bridge, and earn his contract. No way you offer someone 6.5 mill for one good season, especially in light of his first 2 years and motivation issues.

 

[DarkandStormy]

All this does is show that the CBJ FO is willing to negotiate - both on term an AAV. If it's "not even close" to what KO wants, that it's showing Overhardt won't budge on anything. What a joke.

 

[NotWendell]

If this is what they feel he deserves they need to take it not turn it down. Feels like petulance to me.

I also think releasing the numbers is petty.

Basically I'm on nobody's side right now but I'll lean a little more towards management than Joey because he hasn't earned his big contract yet.

Releasing the numbers clearly turns public opinion to the CBJs favor, and against Johansen for turning it down. It also gives pause to any NHL team even remotely thinking about offer sheeting him.

 

[salsa man]

Johansen's camp is pissing me off, and I'm not a CBJ fan.

 

[NotWendell]

It's interesting that IHZ is the one defending Johansen the loudest because this kid is starting to remind me of Nikolai Zherdev.

 

[blahblah]

So he should take the bridge, and earn his contract. No way you offer someone 6.5 mill for one good season, especially in light of his first 2 years and motivation issues.

I was mainly commenting on the position that he doesn't want to be part of what the Jackets has to offer (not completely sure what that means).

I'm beginning to think this has less to do with the Jackets and more ego with Johansen. I'm begging to wonder if this is less Overhardt and more Johansen.

 

[WannabeFinn]

So.. if they really offered him 46m/8 yrs.. what the ever living **** is wrong with them? That's a guaranteed contract, 5.75m/year, for having ONE good season.

 

[DJA]

Humor me....why do people think it's a bad thing that the numbers are being made public?

 

[WannabeFinn]

Humor me....why do people think it's a bad thing that the numbers are being made public?

Because it rarely happens, and when it does happen, they come from "sources"

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Humor me....why do people think it's a bad thing that the numbers are being made public?

because the front office are publicly shaming ryan johansen, trying to make him look bad. not a great thing to do to a kid who is the future of the franchise.

 

[DarkandStormy]

because the front office are publicly shaming ryan johansen, trying to make him look bad. not a great thing to do to a kid who is the future of the franchise.

Except, he does look bad.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Because it rarely happens, and when it does happen, they come from "sources"

Or in this case, the team's twitter feed / press conference

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

because the front office are publicly shaming ryan johansen, trying to make him look bad. not a great thing to do to a kid who is the future of the franchise.

Johansen publicly shamed the organization, too, with his "slap in the face" comments.

 

[Socks]

Humor me....why do people think it's a bad thing that the numbers are being made public?

It's petty. But I'm still more on their side than Joey's because that's a buttload of money after a relatively short period of time and he should take it.

 

[NotWendell]

Johansen publicly shamed the organization, too, with his "slap in the face" comments.

#BattleOn

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Recent tweets regarding offers made that were longer term... are just now being made public by the team. Are we to imply these were recent offers? It's not made clear that they are.

 

[NotWendell]

Offer rejected by Johansen: 6-year, $32 million
Offer accepted by Rick Nash: 5-year, $27 million

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

#BattleOn

I'm not thrilled about either, for what it's worth.

 

[blahblah]

Recent tweets regarding offers made that were longer term... are just now being made public by the team. Are we to imply these were recent offers? It's not made clear that they are.

From today's CBJ chat; take it for what it's worth - sorry there is no direct link.

I don't think there's any connection. This is a case of the club not trusting the player. Let's be honest: they don't trust him. They think he's the type to rest on his laurels. When he showed up this summer looking rather buff and muscular, they were suddenly willing to go long-term. Early in the summer, anything longer than a bridge was a non-starter. The club is going off his entire body of work, his personality ... the stuff you've heard all about through the years. The agent's looking at his numbers, looking at the contract offer and saying, "You guys nuts?"

 

[The Jones Zone]

because the front office are publicly shaming ryan johansen, trying to make him look bad. not a great thing to do to a kid who is the future of the franchise.

If RJ can't handle the truth, that's his problem.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

From today's CBJ chat; take it for what it's worth - sorry there is no direct link.

Thanks. This was my guess, that these were offered earlier and rejected, and the reason they were being made public now is, well, frustration.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

If RJ can't handle the truth, that's his problem.

 

[DJA]

How is it petty? The numbers always become public after the fact anyway.

 

[The Jones Zone]

It's interesting that IHZ is the one defending Johansen the loudest because this kid is starting to remind me of Nikolai Zherdev.

To one of our best and most respected posters and fans, Mr. Leesmith I concur with you 100%

 

[EspenK]

http://http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=461988

One deal has been offered worth $6 million over two years, another for six years, worth $32 million and a final for eight years, worth $46 million.

I guess I don't understand the 2 yr @ 3 per. I would think that 2 @ 4 would/should be acceptable to the Jackets. I'm guessing that Joey's side isn't coming off the apparent 6 (Jackets 3 plus the 3 apart) per for 2 years.

Assuming the stated offers are flexible if the other side moved towards them I'd guess we'd see a deal finalized in a few days.

If both sides are dug in hard then both are to blame.