RW Zachary Senyshyn - Sault Ste Marie Greyhounds, OHL (2015, 15th, BOS)

[Elias Pettersson]

Yah wow you got it now. Great job and it's ok to disagree but your wrong, the Big Ten has been awful and you still haven't proven that Connor or Boeser will be better than DeBrusk nor Senyshyn in the NHL.

Carry on...Bro

Yeah I'll carry on. You just made yourself look like a gigantic goof. I gave examples to my argument; you say nothing other than the big 10 is a joke. I can't actually believe you think the OHL is harder to score in than NCAA..
I don't need to argue with you anymore. You do a good job of making yourself look bad.
I hope other Bruins fans are smarter than this.

 

[2011 Stanley cup]

Yeah I'll carry on. You just made yourself look like a gigantic goof. I gave examples to my argument; you say nothing other than the big 10 is a joke. I can't actually believe you think the OHL is harder to score in than NCAA..
I don't need to argue with you anymore. You do a good job of making yourself look bad.
I hope other Bruins fans are smarter than this.

No but yes if you include only teams he face during this season, most were not NCAA caliber standard !

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

No need to Connor tore up a lousy Big Ten conference. No guarantee Boeser could score 45 in the OHL. Your imagination is out there, no guarantee any of the prospects do well in NHL.

Connor and Boeser have both had more impressive draft+1 seasons, there's no denying that.

We'll have to wait and see how they all pan out, but right now those Boston picks aren't looking too good.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Woooooosh

Okay genius, what went over my head? You literally made an unrelated point that multiple other people refuted. Let's break this down.

You said what's really said is that Jesse Gabrielle is outproducing Michael Dal Colle...

He's not, and he never has. So nothing is lost in translation.. you literally said "If you want really sad... the Bruins 4th rounder from this year outscored the Islanders' 5th overall pick. And the 4th rounder is a year younger". To defend this claim you said that you were only comparing the stupidity of looking just at the numbers..

If you just look at the numbers, Dal Colle is clearly better! 80 points in 60 games in the OHL vs 75 points in 72 games in the WHL, so what exactly is your argument? If you take every other factor into account, the gap between Dal Colle and Gabrielle widens.

There is literally nothing that proves Gabrielle is better than Dal Colle.. don't act like you outwitted the rest of the posters in this thread, what you posted was complete nonsense.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

I'd take Connor over Senyshyn and DeBrusk any day of the week. He was the guy I wanted the most at 13-15.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

It has a lot to do with it, but keep telling yourself otherwise.

Whatever you have to do to convince yourself to be happier with the pick, go for it. That argument was flawed, but eat it up if that's what you need to do.

 

[Ingy]

This is Spears third year of development while Senyshyn is in his second. They both have 9 points in 10 games in the playoffs; I would hardly call that " hasn't done anything ", especially when Senyshyn helped setup the GW goal in the last game

Although his numbers look good, Spears has been the reason for his production. I've been to every playoff game and about 10 regular season games. Senyshyns has been invisible against good defensive teams. Not sold on him as a pro.

 

[Anth93]

Although his numbers look good, Spears has been the reason for his production. I've been to every playoff game and about 10 regular season games. Senyshyns has been invisible against good defensive teams. Not sold on him as a pro.

I agree, he has a lot to work on.

 

[Son of Donegal]

How many threads will it take to settle this issue?

I am a Bruins fan and I see top-6 NHL upside for Zach Senyshyn. I also see top 6 upside for Kyle Connor and Brock Boeser. The issue for Bruins fans is that Kyle Connor is going to make an impact in the NHL next season for WPG. Whereas, they need to wait 2-3 years for Zach Senyshyn to arrive in Boston. He'll be good when he gets there, but Begeron, Marchand, Krejci will be older and starting to slow down.

Boeser and Senyshyn are in the same general class, in terms of their upside and timeline. Connor is a higher quality prospect.

If I am the GM and I do a re-draft, there is no way I miss out on Kyle Conner. However, I personally prefer Zach Senyshyn over Brock Boeser due to his speed.

 

[Anth93]

How many threads will it take to settle this issue?

I am a Bruins fan and I see top-6 NHL upside for Zach Senyshyn. I also see top 6 upside for Kyle Connor and Brock Boeser. The issue for Bruins fans is that Kyle Connor is going to make an impact in the NHL next season for WPG. Whereas, they need to wait 2-3 years for Zach Senyshyn to arrive in Boston. He'll be good when he gets there, but Begeron, Marchand, Krejci will be older and starting to slow down.

Boeser and Senyshyn are in the same general class, in terms of their upside and timeline. Connor is a higher quality prospect.

If I am the GM and I do a re-draft, there is no way I miss out on Kyle Conner. However, I personally prefer Zach Senyshyn over Brock Boeser due to his speed.

Greyhounds fans are really frustrated by Senyshyn.. Go see what ND and Mich fans think of Connor and Boeser.

 

[chunkylover53]

If you want really sad... the Bruins 4th rounder from this year outscored the Islanders' 5th overall pick. And the 4th rounder is a year younger. Heck, he outscored almost every CHL player drafted in 2015.

It's almost as if scouts are more concerned with how a players game will translate than pure numbers.

I don't care for this argument, but what? Did you just say Jesse Gabrielle outscored MDC and almost every CHL player drafted in 2015? I think he was talking about points not goals.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Connor and Boeser have both had more impressive draft+1 seasons, there's no denying that.

We'll have to wait and see how they all pan out, but right now those Boston picks aren't looking too good.

Disagree that the picks aren't looking good. They have all looked very good.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Greyhounds fans are really frustrated by Senyshyn.. Go see what ND and Mich fans think of Connor and Boeser.

Of course fans of Michigan and ND like those players. No reason not too. First I have heard that a hockey fan base hating on a player that increased his goal scoring over a season.

 

[Estlin]

I'd take Connor over Senyshyn and DeBrusk any day of the week. He was the guy I wanted the most at 13-15.

Well, Boston originally wanted Connor, but he apparently tanked his interview and showed a reluctance to be a part of the organization, which made the Bruins opt for Debrusk.

Greyhounds fans are really frustrated by Senyshyn.. Go see what ND and Mich fans think of Connor and Boeser.

Link?

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Disagree that the picks aren't looking good. They have all looked very good.

Really? Senyshyn looks good if he was picked 25th.
Debrusk looks good if he was picked 45th.
Zboril looks good if he was picked 50th.

The bottom line is the bruins had 3 picks to change their franchise future and they bunged up with all 3. I'm not saying that these guys won't be good. There were just way better people available that they passed on. I blame that on incompetent scouting.

 

[Ingy]

Of course fans of Michigan and ND like those players. No reason not too. First I have heard that a hockey fan base hating on a player that increased his goal scoring over a season.

He was on the third line last year... I sure hope he increased his PTS.
I live in SSM he's a 1 trick pony.
We had a really good team last year, it's more frustration about us not having as much talent. (Mcann, Ritchie, Nurse, Tolchinsky)

I think it was a reach to draft him in the first.

He's going to have low end production, due to his ability to only really play one end of the ice at an average level.

I hope to see more productions for my Hounds sake, but I don't see it happening.

 

[Anth93]

Link?

There's two in this thread!

 

[Elias Pettersson]

However, I personally prefer Zach Senyshyn over Brock Boeser due to his speed.

I'd imagine if there was a poll made, 90% of HF would disagree with you.
Boeser just greatly exceeded expectations this year and was one of the best players in the NCAA. He scored at a higher ppg rate in his draft +1 season than Toews, Larkin, Oshie, Schwartz, etc.

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Link?

See below.
I bet you no one would say anything like that about Connor or Boeser

 

[SanDogBrewin]

I live in SSM he's a 1 trick pony. I hope to see more productions for my Hounds sake, but I don't see it happening.

Three posts eh ? What's your other alter ego log ins ? You want more production than 45 goals in the reagular season and 9 points in 10 playoff games ?

 

[Ingy]

Three posts eh ? What's your other alter ego log ins ? You want more production than 45 goals in the reagular season and 9 points in 10 playoff games ?

He can score, he's atrocious in our own end, all I'm saying is I don't see him translating well. He's been a product of Spears this season.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Really? Senyshyn looks good if he was picked 25th.
Debrusk looks good if he was picked 45th.
Zboril looks good if he was picked 50th.

The bottom line is the bruins had 3 picks to change their franchise future and they bunged up with all 3. I'm not saying that these guys won't be good. There were just way better people available that they passed on. I blame that on incompetent scouting.

You already know for a fact that the Boston players won't be any good and worse than players picked behind them? Could you tell me who wins the cup in 2019 too?

Greyhounds fans are really frustrated by Senyshyn.. Go see what ND and Mich fans think of Connor and Boeser.

I remember when Moncton fans were very frustrated with Marchand... he turned out ok. It's almost like players change after junior?

 

[M2Beezy]

Imagine how good of shape the bruins future would of been if they took Boeser Barzal and Connor. Just let that sink in that they didnt do that

 

[BruinsBtn]

Okay genius, what went over my head? You literally made an unrelated point that multiple other people refuted. Let's break this down.

You said what's really said is that Jesse Gabrielle is outproducing Michael Dal Colle...

He's not, and he never has. So nothing is lost in translation.. you literally said "If you want really sad... the Bruins 4th rounder from this year outscored the Islanders' 5th overall pick. And the 4th rounder is a year younger". To defend this claim you said that you were only comparing the stupidity of looking just at the numbers..

If you just look at the numbers, Dal Colle is clearly better! 80 points in 60 games in the OHL vs 75 points in 72 games in the WHL, so what exactly is your argument? If you take every other factor into account, the gap between Dal Colle and Gabrielle widens.

There is literally nothing that proves Gabrielle is better than Dal Colle.. don't act like you outwitted the rest of the posters in this thread, what you posted was complete nonsense.

Now try scrolling up a little higher and see where it started. You'll get there...

 

[Anth93]

I remember when Moncton fans were very frustrated with Marchand... he turned out ok. It's almost like players change after junior?

Hah.. What's the point in even watching these guys right? All these games they play in junior, the level of performance they show, it all means nothing!