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RW Pavel Buchnevich (2013, 75th, NYR)

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I like these rumors swirling about him terminating contract very soon... would love to see him on NYR this year
 
Larry Brooks said the rumors are false.

Sorry, don't know how to add tweets in proper format. I'd post the tweet, if I knew how to do that.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
I agree, he's a guy that skates around with stick in his hand and slaps a little cylindrical object around the ice, he's not a ****ing salesperson. I have no idea why people care if a guy is introverted or not? A 2 minute interview after a game?
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Because that's the difference between Ovechkin and Syomin. The talent level is the same.

That doesn't mean every introvert is the same or tha an introvert isn't able to be great.
 
Atas2000 said:
Because that's the difference between Ovechkin and Syomin. The talent level is the same.

That doesn't mean every introvert is the same or tha an introvert isn't able to be great.
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Hahaha, didn't know who you were talking about then googled his stats and wondered how I didn't know who a guy who put up such good numbers on the Caps recently, then realized that was the Russian spelling on Semin. But I'd say there is a bigger talent/effort gap between Ovi and Semin then you are letting on.
 
93LEAFS said:
Hahaha, didn't know who you were talking about then googled his stats and wondered how I didn't know who a guy who put up such good numbers on the Caps recently, then realized that was the Russian spelling on Semin. But I'd say there is a bigger talent/effort gap between Ovi and Semin then you are letting on.
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If you consider such traits as character and mental toughness part of talent then you are bviously right. If we talk aout pure skills, like hand eye cooediantion, hckey IQ and so on, Syomin is very much on par. The big trouble witt him he needs a shrink and a nanny to coach him.

I can only hope Buchnevich is just another type of introvert who doesn't like to talk but knows how to do his job right.
 
Atas2000 said:
If you consider such traits as character and mental toughness part of talent then you are bviously right. If we talk aout pure skills, like hand eye cooediantion, hckey IQ and so on, Syomin is very much on par. The big trouble witt him he needs a shrink and a nanny to coach him.

I can only hope Buchnevich is just another type of introvert who doesn't like to talk but knows how to do his job right.
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I'd def consider some of the traits to allow Ovechkin to play a skill, I'd also say he's a better skater, but Semin sure had alot of talent, we can agree on that.
 
kp61c said:
yes, and when the next signing is up, they'll offer him much more than rangers. it's a rich and popular club in a great city. more reasons to stay home.
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At the end of the day it comes down to whether or not he wants to play in the best league against the top level competition. If yes, the Rangers will see him arrive shortly following the KHL season. If no or if he's a guy motivated primarily by money, that's likely not the type of character of player the Rangers really want around anyways. From everything I've read about the guy, he seems to be driven to come here and compete against the top competition, he just believes his development is better served in the KHL up to the end of this season (which could very well be true).
 
Realistically, with all of the recent reinforcements, SKA will be one of the top hockey teams in the world again this year. Imagine Gusev, Buch, Kovy on the PP together - disgusting.
 
Anyone know what SKA traded for him? It might be that the return might indicate his intentions for next year. If they paid what amounts to the price of a rental then I don't think there is much to be concerned about.
 
Atas2000 said:
Because that's the difference between Ovechkin and Syomin. The talent level is the same. That doesn't mean every introvert is the same or tha an introvert isn't able to be great.
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Um, what are you talking about buddy? Ovechkin has a superstar mentality, that's true, but being ambitious and driven has nothing to do with intro/extravercy.

Intense Rage said:
Anyone know what SKA traded for him? It might be that the return might indicate his intentions for next year. If they paid what amounts to the price of a rental then I don't think there is much to be concerned about.
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$$.
 
Buchnevich won't stay in SKA. It's the same situation as was Tarasenko's one. Buchevich was traded because his team has no perspectives this season, and the next season Pavel will play in New York.
 
EvoLu7ioN said:
At the end of the day it comes down to whether or not he wants to play in the best league against the top level competition.
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You mean the AHL, right?:sarcasm: Becase that's where he would end up, no matter which promises the Rangers make. That's what every russian player should consider.

EvoLu7ioN said:
If yes, the Rangers will see him arrive shortly following the KHL season. If no or if he's a guy motivated primarily by money,
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You sound like FOX News. So if the guy chooses one of the nbest organizations in the KHL over an uncertain and useless(as pretty obviously shown by recent examples) path through the AHL, he is a "greedy Russian", right?
 
SMantzas said:
Flyline and Pavel Buchnevich are gonna be so happy!
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Indeed I am!

He wasn't coming over mid season anyway, and I'd rather him just come over int he offseason and prepare for training camp and the season. It's already hard enough coming to a whole know country and barely knowing the language. Let him ease into it in the summer, not in the middle of a playoff race.
 
Atas2000 said:
You mean the AHL, right?:sarcasm: Becase that's where he would end up, no matter which promises the Rangers make. That's what every russian player should consider.



You sound like FOX News. So if the guy chooses one of the nbest organizations in the KHL over an uncertain and useless(as pretty obviously shown by recent examples) path through the AHL, he is a "greedy Russian", right?
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I never suggested he play in the AHL. At the end of the season he'll have the same type of decision Kuznetsov had, which is establish yourself in the NHL or continue on comfortably in the KHL. I merely am suggesting most elite level professional athletes aspire to become the greatest version of themself and evolve into the highest level player possible (ok maybe not all, but the ones you want to build,your team around do anyways), and to do that you need to play against the highest level competition possible. Look at Kuznetsov and how much he has evolved and grown since coming over - I'd argue he wouldn't have developed into that great of a player so quickly had he stayed in the KHL. When he came over he was good enough to be a top talent in the KHL, but barely good enough to scratch the NHL lineup. He was pushed and challenged both internally as well as by coaching staff, and he met the challenge, adapted, and became a better player for it.
 
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EvoLu7ioN said:
I never suggested he play in the AHL. At the end of the season he'll have the same type of decision Kuznetsov had, which is establish yourself in the NHL or continue on comfortably in the KHL. I merely am suggesting most elite level professional athletes aspire to become the greatest version of themself and evolve into the highest level player possible (ok maybe not all, but the ones you want to build,your team around do anyways), and to do that you need to play against the highest level competition possible. Look at Kuznetsov and how much he has evolved and grown since coming over - I'd argue he wouldn't have developed into that great of a player so quickly had he stayed in the KHL. When he came over he was good enough to be a top talent in the KHL, but barely good enough to scratch the NHL lineup. He was pushed and challenged both internally as well as by coaching staff, and he met the challenge, adapted, and became a better player for it.
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At the end of the season he will actually have the same type of decision to make as Tarasenko. He's 20y.o. He's with SKA. Guess what Tarasenko did. He stayed. And it was the right thing to do.

Your straight forward logic makes little sense for young players' development. By your logic giving a 13y.o. a 400lbs barbell will make him a great weightlifter. It's not that simple. It has nothing to do with stupid aspirations at this age. A completely developed player might carve out his career as he pleases, but development is not solved by trying to go through the wall. For some it might work, but some will kill their development forever that way.

You also miss the imprtan point I mentioned. Both Kuznetsov and Tarasenko left the KHL at the age of 21-22. Buchnevich is 20y.o.. another year in the KHL is exactly what he needs now.
 
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