RW Matvei Michkov - SKA-1946 St.Petersburg, MHL (2023 Draft)

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SoundAndFury

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What is chance, that he will stay at Loko system?? Suppose if SKA want somebody, you can not fight them.
Like Kshahdoo said, it depends on the kid and his advisors. It's unlikely SKA or any other team would throw significant money at him (any reasonable offers Loko could easily match) so the only real incentive for him to change teams would be practice conditions and facilities or the city itself. In former Loko can go head to head against any club in Russia and the later I don't think is that important to a teenager.

So all in all, I think there's a great chance he just stays at Loko.
Well, Loko will get money, so it's not for free. I think, it's all about the player, or rather his parents and agent.
Let's face it, considering the compensation for junior players it's pretty much for free. Then again, it's hard to call it unfair since the club gets almost nothing if we are talking about a player who is going to leave to the NHL at 18.
 
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Like Kshahdoo said, it depends on the kid and his advisors. It's unlikely SKA or any other team would throw significant money at him (any reasonable offers Loko could easily match) so the only real incentive for him to change teams would be practice conditions and facilities or the city itself. In former Loko can go head to head against any club in Russia and the later I don't think is that important to a teenager.

So all in all, I think there's a great chance he just stays at Loko.

Let's face it, considering the compensation for junior players it's pretty much for free. Then again, it's hard to call it unfair since the club gets almost nothing if we are talking about a player who is going to leave to the NHL at 18.

Not sure, he'll leave to the NHL at 18, while playing on SKA. It would be stupid for the club not to sign him for long term. That's why I don't understand, why Michkov is going to go to SKA, if he has a good chance to be picked 1st or 2nd OA and play in the NHL at 18. It's probably his agent, who wants to get money for SKA contract.
 

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I don't know much about some Russian jr. divisions. Why isn't he being promoted? Clearly too good for u16, no?

On another note why is scoring in the MHL so much lower than the younger age groups?
 
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I don't know much about some Russian jr. divisions. Why isn't he being promoted? Clearly too good for u16, no?

Well, it's hard to say, kids of his talent level usually play for older (one or even two years older) groups, but he doesn't. The management probably has some reasons, we know nothing about. Anyway, he's going to play in the MHL next season.
 

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I don't know much about some Russian jr. divisions. Why isn't he being promoted? Clearly too good for u16, no?
He can't play in MHL yet (until next season). I don't really know but I guess Moscow Open (2004) is the strongest competition available for him right now. He did play for 2003 for 4 years until last season. Maybe 2003 bacame weaker when some players went to MHL or something.
 

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I don't know much about some Russian jr. divisions. Why isn't he being promoted? Clearly too good for u16, no?

On another note why is scoring in the MHL so much lower than the younger age groups?

There is another reason why he was sent down to 2004 - the national team. In Youth Olympics he played with two defensemen from Lokomotiv-2004 - Kirill Kudryavtsev and Andrey Malyavin. There is a great chemistry between him and Kirill.
 

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On another note why is scoring in the MHL so much lower than the younger age groups?
Because MHL is national competition while levels below that are regional meaning the competition level at MHL increases dramatically.
 

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I was more wondering why he wasn't promoted to Yaroslavl's U17 team or NMHL (maybe age restriction?) team. Are those leagues not seen as being as good for development?
 

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I don't know much about some Russian jr. divisions. Why isn't he being promoted? Clearly too good for u16, no?

On another note why is scoring in the MHL so much lower than the younger age groups?
What I hear from insiders is that the age group above is just poor talent-wise, so after he played with them for a while it was decided he benefits more from playing in his age group, but with more talented kids.
 
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So another 4 goals in 6-3 victory over Lokomotiv (Michkov plays for Lokomotiv-2004), and now Matvei has 99 points in 24 games. The next best scorer of the tournament is Dolzhenkov from CSKA with 53 poins after 24 games. So now the most interesting question is will Michkov score twice as many points as the next best scorer. There are two games left to play.
 

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He did it! 100 points in 25 games! Then he scored extra 5 goals so it's 105 points in 25 games.
 

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With the way he is playing, and if he continues to trend in right direction might pass Svech hype, and be on Ovi/Malkin level pre-draft hype IMO
 
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The most interesting thing about him, his physicality is nothing especial. I mean, Svechnikov, Malkin, let alone Ovechkin, were and are big and powerful guys. Michkov is small and has nothing powerful in his game. He's all about skill and IQ.
 

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The most interesting thing about him, his physicality is nothing especial. I mean, Svechnikov, Malkin, let alone Ovechkin, were and are big and powerful guys. Michkov is small and has nothing powerful in his game. He's all about skill and IQ.

That could eventually harm his reputation. If he will play against older and bigger guys, the could be some issues.
 

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Some Michkov trivia: favourive NHL team - Washington Capitals, the biggest dream is to win Stanley Cup, of course (from his interview to local Yaroslavl TV, yep, I'm obsessed :)
 

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Why do you see a problem in his “dumbness”? It is ok that players want to win in the most competitive tournament in the world. The problem is that KHL is much weaker, the problem is that there are no NHL players at Olympic games. But there is no Michkov’s mistake in it.
The most competitive tournamenyt is the Olympics. The NHL is a foreign league and the cup of it is a foreign trophy. And this is also the league hurting that tournament with it's greed and egoism droven allures. And this is also the league hurting development of hockey in his own country.

Michkov's mistake is not being able to think further than his nose. That qualifies him as dumb. Other than that he makes no mistakes.

I will continue waiting for the first russian player to emerge. His emergence will mark the rebirth of russian hockey. Until then we will obviously have some more generations of Michkovs with those short-sighted, petty "dreams".

It's not about KHL, it's not about leagues, it's about proper priorities.
 
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