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RW Matvei Michkov - SKA-1946 St.Petersburg, MHL (2023 Draft) Part 2

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I don’t think there’s almost any chance he’s picked ahead of Bedard, but I think the small advantage to Bedard that I had thought there was has turned into a small edge for Michkov to start this season.

Michkov has continued playing well into this season. He’s bigger and a little quicker. He’s still an undersized winger that doesn’t skate that great, but I don’t think we can say at this point that Bedard projects as a center and Bedard barely skates any better. Michkov is also producing, Bedard isn’t.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I don’t think there’s almost any chance he’s picked ahead of Bedard, but I think the small advantage to Bedard that I had thought there was has turned into a small edge for Michkov to start this season.

Michkov has continued playing well into this season. He’s bigger and a little quicker. He’s still an undersized winger that doesn’t skate that great, but I don’t think we can say at this point that Bedard projects as a center and Bedard barely skates any better. Michkov is also producing, Bedard isn’t.
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Michkov's skating problems are greatly exaggerated. With his unparalleled edge work and agility he's going to be a defensemen's nightmare around the nets where he mostly plays.

He's getting faster as well. He'll never become McDavid, but he always somehow finds the way to get behind defense, and he'll be fast enough to not let catch him.
 
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Because someone mentioned it in the other thread, here is an overview of how Michkov compares to the other top prospects from Russia:

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Age is at the start of the season in August. I have marked exceptional achievements. Source is EP.
 
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Kshahdoo said:
Michkov's skating problems are greatly exaggerated. With his unparalleled edge work and agility he's going to be a defensemen's nightmare around the nets where he mostly plays.

He's getting faster as well. He'll never become McDavid, but he always somehow finds the way to get behind defense, and he'll be fast enough to not let catch him.
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Michkov's edgework is definitely not "unparalleled". It's good but that's just a very inaccurate statement. If you want unparalleled edgework, that's McDavid.

At this point, I'd say that Michkov is mostly comparable to Ovechkin, although at this point I wouldn't consider him to quite be on Ovechkin's level. His international performance has been very strong, though, and it'll also be interesting to see how he does at u-20s or u-18s.
 
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Michkov's edgework is definitely not "unparalleled". It's good but that's just a very inaccurate statement. If you want unparalleled edgework, that's McDavid.

At this point, I'd say that Michkov is mostly comparable to Ovechkin, although at this point I wouldn't consider him to quite be on Ovechkin's level. His international performance has been very strong, though, and it'll also be interesting to see how he does at u-20s or u-18s.
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It takes less time for Michkov to stop and then go the opposite dirrection, than it takes for you to blink. He's definitely better in this, than McDavid.
 
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It takes less time for Michkov to stop and then go the opposite dirrection, than it takes for you to blink. He's definitely better in this, than McDavid.
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But when you are 5’10, you need both, otherwise you’ll be questioned. Yes, you can still have the career of Kucherov or Kane, but if we want to consider him generational like a McDavid, Ovechkin, Crosby, the pure speed needs to improve significantly, especially considering he’s small and not a center. Otherwise, it limits his upside. Bedard isn’t answering many of the questions surrounding him right now. Michkov is doing the better job of that. I’m just not sure any of these guys are generational. I don’t think Wright is either.
 
ijuka said:
At this point, I'd say that Michkov is mostly comparable to Ovechkin, although at this point I wouldn't consider him to quite be on Ovechkin's level. His international performance has been very strong, though, and it'll also be interesting to see how he does at u-20s or u-18s.
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Michkov's international performance hasn't been just "strong." It's probably the best in decades for a Russian player his age and altogether more impressive than Ovechkin's.
 
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ijuka said:
Michkov's edgework is definitely not "unparalleled". It's good but that's just a very inaccurate statement. If you want unparalleled edgework, that's McDavid.

At this point, I'd say that Michkov is mostly comparable to Ovechkin, although at this point I wouldn't consider him to quite be on Ovechkin's level. His international performance has been very strong, though, and it'll also be interesting to see how he does at u-20s or u-18s.
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Comparable to Ovechkin? Both are goal scorers that's all. Michkov is playing a completely different style than Ovechkin.
 
Quiet game yesterday. Nevertheless with 2 assists. Had some chances to score, one was a 2 on 1 breakaway but instead of passing back he tried a really difficult angle and didn’t score.

Did you guys saw his interview on Sport Express? Many of the questions were silly, but what was interesting was his statement about playing center. He said he had previously played that position against weak opponents in the junior league. And playing center again wouldn't make a big difference to him. Is probably wishful thinking, but it would be really great if he would move into the middle. He definitely has the hockey IQ for it.
 
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Quiet game yesterday. Nevertheless with 2 assists. Had some chances to score, one was a 2 on 1 breakaway but instead of passing back he tried a really difficult angle and didn’t score.

Did you guys saw his interview on Sport Express? Many of the questions were silly, but what was interesting was his statement about playing center. He said he had previously played that position against weak opponents in the junior league. And playing center again wouldn't make a big difference to him. Is probably wishful thinking, but it would be really great if he would move into the middle. He definitely has the hockey IQ for it.
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He also said he does not care about NHL draft. Finally a prospect with a brain.
 
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The tsar said:
Does that mean he doesn’t want to play in north america?
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It means he does not care what NHL GMs & scouts think. It also means he will not follow "the recommendations" by any foreign club. Especially NHL clubs recommend the Russian prospects to come over as fast as possible to adapt & other s...
 
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Does that mean he doesn’t want to play in north america?
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He was asked if he thought about his NHL draft at the moment he signed the contract with SKA and how this might affect his position. He said he didn't think about the draft then or now and ultimately doesn't care at which position he will be picked. I think most prospects would have answered roughly the same. Not a big deal in my eyes.
 
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Does that mean he doesn’t want to play in north america?
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Stop suffering from the NA self fullfilling prophecy self hurt syndrome. Some idiot journalists in NA invented that stupidity like Russians were somehow booo-flight-risky-hooo, won't-come-over-because-Putin-will-pay-him-billions, if-he-has-a-contract-in-the-KHL-he-will-screw-you-over-...-thrice of narrative BS.

Ask yourself that

Why are you falling for that crap in the first place?

Why are you keeping it going all by yourself by such assumptions every time there is some totally unrelated interview or info in gerneral around a player? Do you actually want it to happen?

Why should a russian player fill his interview with pre-cooked "perfect" answers like "All I dream of is the NHL and every night when I go to bed on my NHL branded sheets I pray into my NHL branded pillow that I get to NA as soon as possible"? And that two years before his draft would actually be happenning.

It's perfectly normal for him to NOT think about the NHL or the draft for now. It's perfectly normal to not execute excessive fan service in his interviews. In the very same interview he metions that he is following Bedard and Dvorsky and a lot of hockey in genral. What does that mean now? Get out your crystal ball:sarcasm:
 
Atas2000 said:
Stop suffering from the NA self fullfilling prophecy self hurt syndrome. Some idiot journalists in NA invented that stupidity like Russians were somehow booo-flight-risky-hooo, won't-come-over-because-Putin-will-pay-him-billions, if-he-has-a-contract-in-the-KHL-he-will-screw-you-over-...-thrice of narrative BS.

Ask yourself that

Why are you falling for that crap in the first place?

Why are you keeping it going all by yourself by such assumptions every time there is some totally unrelated interview or info in gerneral around a player? Do you actually want it to happen?

Why should a russian player fill his interview with pre-cooked "perfect" answers like "All I dream of is the NHL and every night when I go to bed on my NHL branded sheets I pray into my NHL branded pillow that I get to NA as soon as possible"? And that two years before his draft would actually be happenning.

It's perfectly normal for him to NOT think about the NHL or the draft for now. It's perfectly normal to not execute excessive fan service in his interviews. In the very same interview he metions that he is following Bedard and Dvorsky and a lot of hockey in genral. What does that mean now? Get out your crystal ball:sarcasm:
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Whoah i think you are reading a little bit too much into it, I don’t care about his decision, In fact i understand russian players staying close to their home with similar salary… but at the end of the day nhl gms have to know if the guy wants to come to NA or not
 
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Whoah i think you are reading a little bit too much into it, I don’t care about his decision, In fact i understand russian players staying close to their home with similar salary… but at the end of the day nhl gms have to know if the guy wants to come to NA or not
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Well the problem I mentioned is still in your post. Where do you or those GMs for that matter get the impression a russian prospect, any russian prospect ever, would not want to come over? There is no evidence for that. That's the Mandela effect of sorts. It never happened, but people weirdly enough believe it's a thing.
 
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Well the problem I mentioned is till in your post. Where do you or those GMs for that matter get the impression a russian prospect, any russian prospect ever, would not want to come over? There is no evidence for that. That's the Mandela effect of sorts. It never happened, but people weirdly enough believe it's a thing.
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I generally agree with you. I'm an Oiler's fan. I feel like we're about 0 for 10 with Russians leaving after they get assigned to the AHL. I absolutely agree that the ones that make the NHL come over, are committed and do amazing things. However, the fringe ones come over.. they don't always stay?

Shlepyshev?
Maksimov?
Yakimov?
Paigin?

Have a look at the Russian prospects drafted by the Oilers. Some never came, some left pretty quick.

Edmonton Oilers Draft History at hockeydb.com

Am I wrong? I know you are more knowledgeable than me on this.

Hoping for good things for Petrov.
 
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