RW Matvei Michkov - SKA-1946 St.Petersburg, MHL (2023 Draft) Part 2

[Kshahdoo]

Bedard played for a better team and it was much easier to rack up points for him. Michkov's showing was much more impressive.

Yeah, 12 goals in 7 games is 12 goals in 7 games.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Btw, I think, he's going to be better, than Kucherov.

 

[scoutman1]

Bedard played for a better team and it was much easier to rack up points for him. Michkov's showing was much more impressive.

im not saying Michkov is bad...he is special for sure and IMO...but Bedard was a year younger and only 2 points off of him...Leading scorer of the better team as you say...without Wright and Bedard the team would not have been better so I personally feel Bedards showing was a little more impressive...Michkov as well was use to playing international tourny and Bedard was not...but really it is all personal prefrence both are special talents and will make the 2023 NHL draft something to really drool about

 

[Daximus]

im not saying Michkov is bad...he is special for sure and IMO...but Bedard was a year younger and only 2 points off of him...Leading scorer of the better team as you say...without Wright and Bedard the team would not have been better so I personally feel Bedards showing was a little more impressive...Michkov as well was use to playing international tourny and Bedard was not...but really it is all personal prefrence both are special talents and will make the 2023 NHL draft something to really drool about

Yeah splitting hairs at this point. Having a top 2 pick in the 2023 draft is just gravy right now. Two can't miss kids who are going to be compared for the entirety of their careers.

 

[Kshahdoo]

im not saying Michkov is bad...he is special for sure and IMO...but Bedard was a year younger and only 2 points off of him...Leading scorer of the better team as you say...without Wright and Bedard the team would not have been better so I personally feel Bedards showing was a little more impressive...Michkov as well was use to playing international tourny and Bedard was not...but really it is all personal prefrence both are special talents and will make the 2023 NHL draft something to really drool about

First, 7 months difference isn't 12 months difference. Second, Michkov scored 2 less goals, than Bedard points, and one of those points was on an empty netter.

 

[ClarkBolzano]

im not saying Michkov is bad...he is special for sure and IMO...but Bedard was a year younger and only 2 points off of him...Leading scorer of the better team as you say...without Wright and Bedard the team would not have been better so I personally feel Bedards showing was a little more impressive...Michkov as well was use to playing international tourny and Bedard was not...but really it is all personal prefrence both are special talents and will make the 2023 NHL draft something to really drool about

I under stand our NT of view. Both are amazing. It's true that Bedard is younger but it's also true that Michkov achieved what He achieved playing in the second Powerplay and mostly on the third line. This makes his tournament pretty impressive.

 

[ClarkBolzano]

I under stand our NT of view. Both are amazing. It's true that Bedard is younger but it's also true that Michkov achieved what He achieved playing in the second Powerplay and mostly on the third line. This makes his tournament pretty impressive.

Your point of view

 

[scoutman1]

First, 7 months difference isn't 12 months difference. Second, Michkov scored 2 less goals, than Bedard points, and one of those points was on an empty netter.

why dont people understand this is a year in hockey terms...Michkov would have been ahead of Bedard growing up since he is entering the draft as a late birthday...hence the year older

 

[Zine]

why dont people understand this is a year in hockey terms...Michkov would have been ahead of Bedard growing up since he is entering the draft as a late birthday...hence the year older

That would be valid only if both players grew up in the same system and stayed solely within their respective birth year groups. From the looks of it, due to their different national development paths, Bedard has been playing against older competition for longer than Michkov has. As such, a half year separating both players doesn't make much difference.
In fact, as it pertains to international competitions, Michkov was born at the worst time of the year.

 

[scoutman1]

That would be valid only if both players grew up in the same system and stayed solely within their respective birth year groups. From the looks of it, due to their different national development paths, Bedard has been playing against older competition for longer than Michkov has. As such, a half year separating both players doesn't make much difference.
In fact, as it pertains to international competitions, Michkov was born at the worst time of the year.

It's still relevant...its about the important early years development....michkov would have started hockey a year before bedard...being a year older in hockey terms makes a big difference

 

[Kshahdoo]

It's still relevant...its about the important early years development....michkov would have started hockey a year before bedard...being a year older in hockey terms makes a big difference

Now I see, why Kucherov is better, than McDavid: he has 4 years of development over McJesus...

 

[Zine]

It's still relevant...its about the important early years development....michkov would have started hockey a year before bedard...being a year older in hockey terms makes a big difference

For all we know Bedard couldve started playing hockey before Michkov.
Either way, both have graduated from their crucial early development years (9-12).

What now makes the difference is their respective competition levels since then. Bedard should be developmentally ahead of Michkov considering he’s played against older competition for longer. 1/2 year gap between them is nothing.

 

[Fantomas]

Everyone knows that if you're younger than someone else you're better. It's basic logic.

 

[scoutman1]

Now I see, why Kucherov is better, than McDavid: he has 4 years of development over McJesus...

well if that is what your taking from what im saying all the best too you,,,i have only been doing this stuff for 25 years now and made a living at it before retiring...i have no clue what im talking about...so you think the way you think and ill think the way i think...not the fact that at 15 and 16 years old is different than being an adult...

 

[Kshahdoo]

 

[NatusVincere]

well if that is what your taking from what im saying all the best too you,,,i have only been doing this stuff for 25 years now and made a living at it before retiring...i have no clue what im talking about...so you think the way you think and ill think the way i think...not the fact that at 15 and 16 years old is different than being an adult...

„In hockey terms a full year younger“, „use to playing international“… your 25 years of scouting experience cannot be overlooked! Btw Bedard has significantly more (international) experience.

 

[wings5]

Definitely looks bigger than the previous 159 lbs listing . I would guess he’s at least 170 lbs now .

 

[sasha barkov]

Definitely looks bigger than the previous 159 lbs listing . I would guess he’s at least 170 lbs now .

looks fat

 

[Kleefeld]

It's not a very flattering picture for sure. His shoulders look tiny.

 

[rocketdan9]

Going to be interesting to see who goes 1 in the 2023 draft. Michkov or Bedard. With Fantilli and Dvorsky also knocking at the door

 

[Kshahdoo]

It's not a very flattering picture for sure. His shoulders look tiny.

With these tiny shoulders his shot is already NHL level. Imagine, what shot he'll have, when his shoulders become big.

 

[wings5]

Going to be interesting to see who goes 1 in the 2023 draft. Michkov or Bedard. With Fantilli and Dvorsky also knocking at the door

Nah not Dvorsky for first overall, if he keeps progressing he should have a good chance to go first round though. It's still early but he'd have to have amazing progress to even generate first overall talks.

 

[rocketdan9]

Nah not Dvorsky for first overall, if he keeps progressing he should have a good chance to go first round though. It's still early but he'd have to have amazing progress to even generate first overall talks.

Dvorsky was probably the top U18 player for Slovak team. Impressive for a 16 year old

I dont think he is going number one. But if he hits a growth spurt/progression...

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Nah not Dvorsky for first overall, if he keeps progressing he should have a good chance to go first round though. It's still early but he'd have to have amazing progress to even generate first overall talks.

I don’t think Fantilli is a top 3 contender either. Good player, but the type of player who probably goes in the 11-20 or 21-32 range.

 

[Ulysses31]

Kid looks like a tank frig me