RW Matvei Michkov - HC Sochi, KHL (2023 Draft) - PART 3

[Czechboy]

This is slowly becoming one of my fav threads on HF! It's up there with the Lambert thread and HFOil after a loss! Just great reading.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Marchenko and Morozov were prohibited to get out of Russia and come to NA?

I said "to some degree". And sending you to the VHL and refusing to trade when you probably hoped to be on the Olympic team, which is what happened to Morozov, is definitely tanking you career pretty damn hard.

Marchenko was left playing 13 minutes per game despite being unquestionably one of the best players of the team, his TOI actually decreased from his earlier seasons.

If you have a sensible explanation why was it happening, I'm all years. Same applies to Pylenkov this year, by the way.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I think the risk is mostly imaginary but I know that’s not a popular opinion on here given all the Russian political experts

Will he be allowed to leave the country even for the draft?

 

[Kshahdoo]

when your Grandpa is Vladislav Tretiak, you should know how to do everything as a goaltender: passing included.

I mean Berdin actually who played in the last 2 games. He's pretty good with the puck for a goalie but still shouldn't be better than defensemen. He's though.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

I’d cry scream and shit myself if this actually happens

Back to the roots!

well well well how the turntables

PNHLe? What d0es that stand for please?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Will he be allowed to leave the country even for the draft?

Also wondering this , can he even show up on draft day

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Will he be allowed to leave the country even for the draft?

Yes

 

[Caser]

Also wondering this , can he even show up on draft day

I actually doubt that considering how long it takes for Russians to get the visas done these days.

 

[ViD]

well well well how the turntables

I like how this looks for Columbus

 

[Fonzieleaf]

If it wasn't for the situation in Ukraine, Michkov would be going number 2 and possibly challenging for 1st.

 

[Craig Ludwig]

Saying Michkov would be challenging Bedard for the #1 pick is about the funniest thing I have read in 2023.....

 

[chaosrevolver]

Saying Michkov would be challenging Bedard for the #1 pick is about the funniest thing I have read in 2023.....

What is?

 

[Vasilevskiy]

If it wasn't for the situation in Ukraine, Michkov would be going number 2 and possibly challenging for 1st.

Shame we couldn't see what Michkov can do against his international peers. There would be less excuses to discredit him

 

[kp61c]

Saying Michkov would be challenging Bedard for the #1 pick is about the funniest thing I have read in 2023.....

Nah, he could. it''s laughable to rank Sale, Fantili and Carlson ahead oh him. Fantili, Carlson were hyped like crazy before the WJC but were underwhelming in it to say it mildly. Now everyone acts like it doesn't matter and is par for the course. Lol.

 

[Fantomas]

Nah, it''s laughable to rank Sale, Fantili and Carlson ahead oh him. Fantili, Carlson were hyped like crazy before the WJC but were underwhelming in it to say it mildly. Now everyone acts like it doesn't matter and is par for the course. Lol.

Carlsson was very solid and I can see why some people love him. It's extremely unusual for a draft-eligible prospect to completely dominate the U20 World Juniors and he didn't do that, but he was very good - especially in important matches.

Michkov would have dominated. He plays at an elite (even above elite) level at every opportunity. There's no tournament where he hasn't dominated, which is simply not true for any prospect in this draft, except Bedard. In the COVID-shortened WJC last year he was extremely good and outplayed Bedard in the exo showing between Canada and Russia.

Now he's producing at historic rates in both the VHL and the KHL, which is being overlooked by Western media types for reasons I can only attribute to anti-Russia bias. For example, Ryan Kennedy wrote a complete hatchet job on Michkov just recently in the Hockey News, which is so bad it's not even worth linking here. There are no real consequences for bad journalism these days, especially when it hits a certain politically correct sweet spot.

 

[kp61c]

Carlsson was very solid and I can see why some people love him. It's extremely unusual for a draft-eligible prospect to completely dominate the U20 World Juniors and he didn't do that, but he was very good - especially in important matches.

Sure, but for a guy that is supposed to be better than Michkov, that was a very underwhelming showing.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

There's no need to downplay Carlsson here, he was very good in the tournament

 

[kp61c]

There's no need to downplay Carlsson here, he was very good in the tournament

Nope, if you are ranked ahead of Michkov, that was a crappy perfomance. That's the point.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Nope, if you are ranked ahead of Michkov, that was a crappy perfomance. That's the point.

Yeah he would have to have done what Bedard did in the WJC to even begin to justify that ranking

 

[QJL]

If McDavid is a 100/100 level prospect, I have Bedard and Michkov as 99s. Carlsson and Fantilli as 96s.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Some team is just going to be gifted a generational talent after the top-5.

 

[Fantomas]

Nice comps.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Nope, if you are ranked ahead of Michkov, that was a crappy perfomance. That's the point.

The point is they are ranking them ahead because they are not watching Michkov play, nor did they much before the whole Russia ban thing. I think it's pretty obvious.
Bedard being the absolute best Canadian player and demolishing all stats is giving a very wrong impression on what top prospects do.

Even if Michkov played the expectations should not be for him to have 20 points or something, how many times has that happened? Even more so as a 17 yo?

 

[BB88]

Nice comps.

What has he in real world done to deserve that mention?

 

[ValeriKamensky]

Probably not a popular opinion, but his plays without a puck really reminds me Yakupov.