RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 6

[kp61c]

cheating aside, nice game frome him. he wasn't afraid to slow the game and make smart plays in the offensive zone.

 

[Zine]

Even the announcer acknowledges it as cheating.

And this narrative of Bure cheating is bs too. I invite you to find me examples of Bure springing before his dmen have the puck. Bure would play the zone high but 90% of the time he started the played from his high zone not from neutral ice. One of Bure's strongest skills was transition disruption, so many of his breakaways are caused by him forcing the dmen to cough the puck or him catching the pass. The call "intercepted by Bure" was one of the most frequently repeated calls on the radio back in the day.

The announcer also said it was anticipation. It's all semantics.
Point is the announcer saw what everybody else did.

"He recognizes there's an opportunity to spring loose if there's a shot block. Call it cheating, call it anticipating, call it whatever you want, you gotta get him the puck when an offensive player is reading the play like that."

Good game by Michkov. He reads the play well.

 

[Just Linda]

Lol okay, he probably was a lot more rounded earlier in his career. Later on he was a notorious cherry-picker and scored bunch of these goals, and I am not talking mid zone, but from high off his zone, I rarely seen him playing defense and boards in Florida, in fact a lot of scoring snipers played similar. Also cherry picking, or various forms of it, can be a deliberate tactic that can work quite well if it makes the opponent team wary or back up on its toes. I just don't see your "deeply uncomfortable to watch". You know who is deeply uncomfortable to watch people like you who criticize young talent who brings fun to the game like Michkov for no apparent reason.

Oh really, it's effective eh? Then why was Strome left alone in the most dangerous area of the ice?

Believe it or not, I actually want Michkov to succeed in the NHL. I want him to do well precisely because he can bring a fun, exciting element to the game. Being disappointed in Michkov for repeatedly doing the same exact thing that doesn't work on the modern NHL is because I want him to succeed.

I'll lobby that same dishonest accusation back at you. I think you are wanting to twist what he does into a positive because you don't care if he succeeds. Why else would you twist my words and turn your blinders on. I mean clearly, of something doesn't work for any other NHL player on any other team in the modern era and relies heavily on luck to pull off, most people who cheer for the team ornllauer would hope that the young player (who will develop) will learn not to do it, right?

 

[Kshahdoo]

Almost Michigan and hatty...

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Wow Michkov gets more than 13-15 mins of ice time and produces, shocking.

Michkov just turned 21 and has played 50 games for the first time in his career. More than likely he is hitting a wall (as are several other of the Flyers younger players).

Wouldn't attribute that to the coach's "system".

20*. He was 19 for most of the first half of the season. And Torts has benched and cut his ice time to 5-8 minutes a multitude times for small mistakes instantly. If you watched the Flyers regularly you’d see this happens often. A part of me really wishes San Jose or Montreal would have drafted him, Torts is an abomination of a coach for young talented offensive players.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Wow Michkov gets more than 13-15 mins of ice time and produces, shocking.


20*. He was 19 for most of the first half of the season. And Torts has benched and cut his ice time to 5-8 minutes a multitude times for small mistakes instantly. If you watched the Flyers regularly you’d see this happens often. A part of me really wishes San Jose or Montreal would have drafted him, Torts is an abomination of a coach for young talented offensive players.

Watch pretty much every game (and was at the Islanders game last week).

Perhaps he plays more when he plays well? In other words, unlike some other recent high first-round picks, he is being coached to play a complete game.

He was much better last night than he has been for the last stretch of games and his ice time reflected that.

What was disappointing was that TK had a rare off-night and Drysdale struggled or the Flyers might have beaten the top team in the division.

Even with those issues Foerster (who also had a strong game and is developing nicely) came within a whisker of tying the game late.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

He is very skilled, extremely intelligent, also flawed, but he will definitely be a top tier point producer in a few years

Was he overhyped (by some)? Definitely, but he is still very, very promising at this age. But those who said he was the next best prospect out of Russia since Ovi maybe thought too highly of him. Very good player none the less.

I can see him hitting 80 pts next year, and who knows after that

 

[romao]

It'll be cheating if he does it all the time, but he does it only when he thinks there is a good chance to get the puck being all alone behind opponents' defense. I call this anticipation and smartness.

He did the same when Flyers conceded 4th goal, what turned out to be game winning goal as well. Not that it directly led to a goal. But he left the zone and made a run to center ice when it wasn't even 50/50 puck, Capitals player was about to get puck possession in Flyers zone. Then Michkov had to skate additional distance to come back to defensive position. And player he had to cover up eventually made primary assist, while Michkov wasn't close enough to him, because of being tired after additional skating back and forth at the end of his almost 1-min long shift.
Sure, it looks smart when it works, but in this case that risk wasn't well calculated. And he does it a lot

 

[Kshahdoo]

He did the same when Flyers conceded 4th goal, what turned out to be game winning goal as well. Not that it directly led to a goal. But he left the zone and made a run to center ice when it wasn't even 50/50 puck, Capitals player was about to get puck possession in Flyers zone. Then Michkov had to skate additional distance to come back to defensive position. And player he had to cover up eventually made primary assist, while Michkov wasn't close enough to him, because of being tired after additional skating back and forth at the end of his almost 1-min long shift.
Sure, it looks smart when it works, but in this case that risk wasn't well calculated. And he does it a lot

Lol, you're really trying to say that the Flyers let in this goal because of Michkov?

Chychrun grabs the lead with a laser | NHL.com

Jakob Chychrun snags the cross-ice dish from John Carlson and pins it past Ivan Fedotov, making it 4-3 in the 3rd period

www.nhl.com

 

[Andrei79]

It's not cheating on defense, Bure scored like 100 goals like this, and no one was considering it's cheating on defense, it's calculated risk and it works for Michkov.

Literally everyone used to say Bure cheated on defense, lmao.

 

[romao]

Lol, you're really trying to say that the Flyers let in this goal because of Michkov?

Chychrun grabs the lead with a laser | NHL.com

Jakob Chychrun snags the cross-ice dish from John Carlson and pins it past Ivan Fedotov, making it 4-3 in the 3rd period

www.nhl.com

No, I'm saying that he cheated, and was way out of position when it was needed to defend. His decision had some impact on the play which ended up as goal against, and overall it didn't look smart

 

[Kshahdoo]

No, I'm saying that he cheated, and was way out of position when it was needed to defend. His decision had some impact on the play which ended up as goal against, and overall it didn't look smart

He got back to his position way before the goal was scored. Everything would have happened exactly the same way if he got back to the zone 5 sec earlier...

 

[romao]

He got back to his position way before the goal was scored. Everything would have happened exactly the same way if he got back to the zone 5 sec earlier...

No, I don't think so. When he needed to close the gap between him and Carlson he was too slow and passive, because most likely he was tired after unnecessary skating at the end his shift. He could defend it better.

And again, it's not all his fault. Other guys could have played it better as well. But his decision there was questionable to say the least

 

[FlyguyOX]

Fantastic game.

Questioning “closing the gap speed” when Bedard is doing no-look passes to the opponent lmao

 

[Benstheman]

Good little offensive player.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

He did the same when Flyers conceded 4th goal, what turned out to be game winning goal as well. Not that it directly led to a goal. But he left the zone and made a run to center ice when it wasn't even 50/50 puck, Capitals player was about to get puck possession in Flyers zone. Then Michkov had to skate additional distance to come back to defensive position. And player he had to cover up eventually made primary assist, while Michkov wasn't close enough to him, because of being tired after additional skating back and forth at the end of his almost 1-min long shift.
Sure, it looks smart when it works, but in this case that risk wasn't well calculated. And he does it a lot

Wouldn't put that goal on him. That was all Drysdale not getting possession (which any forward would assume a defenseman would do). And then further running around the zone covering nobody.