RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 5

[Doothpick]

I'm too lazy to watch full games these days (f***in ads), but just went through an hour of Mickhov (and flyers I guess) highlights, and he looks so comfortable out there. Insane offensive vision.

I still hold hope for Carlsson to become sort of Malkin-lite(+lite), and if he reaches that I'm good.. but man, Michkov, what a freaking player. My expectations were already high, and he's exceeded them, and then some.

Almost straight from Giroux to Mickhov.. good for the Flyers!

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

I'm too lazy to watch full games these days (f***in ads), but just went through an hour of Mickhov (and flyers I guess) highlights, and he looks so comfortable out there. Insane offensive vision.

I still hold hope for Carlsson to become sort of Malkin-lite(+lite), and if he reaches that I'm good.. but man, Michkov, what a freaking player. My expectations were already high, and he's exceeded them, and then some.

Almost straight from Giroux to Mickhov.. good for the Flyers!

Nice post, I do think Michkov is a better prospect and will be a better player than Giroux, I remember watching Giroux at Gatineau and just knew he'd be awesome but there's definitely levels when it comes to prospects! As it sits right now, I think the Ducks probably made the right choice picking Carlsson over Fantilli.

 

[Doothpick]

Nice post, I do think Michkov is a better prospect and will be a better player than Giroux, I remember watching Giroux at Gatineau and just knew he'd be awesome but there's definitely levels when it comes to prospects! As it sits right now, I think the Ducks probably made the right choice picking Carlsson over Fantilli.

I think so too. Giroux was (IS!) awesome, but Michkov has that something *extra* in him. I think it's still way too early for Carlsson v Fantilli debate, and I don't want to derail the thread..

However I'm also glad for Russian hockey. Do I get banned if I say I wish them to return to international circle again? All the talent they have it's cool to imagine Michkov playing with Ovechkin, Kucherov, Kaprizov.. I bet Finland still kicks their ass, so hurry up and get them back. This is stupid and it's enough already.

To keep this on Michkov; good for him, I always saw a bit of Selanne in him, but the way he's transitioned to playmaking is marvelous. You can't teach that vision.

 

[Flynn84]

Fantilli is invisible. Him over Michkov doesn't look very smart right now.

I guess your opinion on Michkov changed drastically?

 

[User9992]

I think so too. Giroux was (IS!) awesome, but Michkov has that something *extra* in him. I think it's still way too early for Carlsson v Fantilli debate, and I don't want to derail the thread..

However I'm also glad for Russian hockey. Do I get banned if I say I wish them to return to international circle again? All the talent they have it's cool to imagine Michkov playing with Ovechkin, Kucherov, Kaprizov.. I bet Finland still kicks their ass, so hurry up and get them back. This is stupid and it's enough already.

To keep this on Michkov; good for him, I always saw a bit of Selanne in him, but the way he's transitioned to playmaking is marvelous. You can't teach that vision.

I think Russia always had a better players than Finland but as a team Finland has been better mkst of the times.
There was time when Finland didn't have a single elite (non-goalie) player but still outperformed Russia on International stage. But now Finland actually has a an elite forwards like Barkov, Aho, Rantanen and a elite dman in Heiskanen. Dark times gone for Finland.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Against primarily 1st liners. Not 3rd liners like Michkov. Usage argument doesn’t work when you have tougher competition and Michkov gets a ton of PP1 time.

Michkov >> Celebrini offensively and its not really close, Michkov thinks the game on another level. Producing at PPG with much less help and ice time is indicative of that.

 

[FriarChill]

Michkov dropping to 7 at the draft still puzzles me. Rarely have i been so sure that a prospect will succeed. It was always 1a/1b between Michkov and Bedard. Stupid GMs but awesome for the Flyers.
On a side note: looks like Tortorella knows what he is doing. I think it's pretty smart what Philly is doing, no reason playing him 20+ minutes when he never played 50 games in his career. It's a long season especially for rookies. They are not repeating last year's mistake when they overplayed Couturier after missing 2 seasons.

 

[ellja3]

Michkov dropping to 7 at the draft still puzzles me. Rarely have i been so sure that a prospect will succeed. It was always 1a/1b between Michkov and Bedard. Stupid GMs but awesome for the Flyers.
On a side note: looks like Tortorella knows what he is doing. I think it's pretty smart what Philly is doing, no reason playing him 20+ minutes when he never played 50 games in his career. It's a long season especially for rookies. They are not repeating last year's mistake when they overplayed Couturier after missing 2 seasons.

Especially given the fact (and it can't be stated enough how conflicted I am writing these words) there is a non-0 chance PHI might make the play-offs.

 

[Flynn84]

Michkov >> Celebrini offensively and its not really close, Michkov thinks the game on another level. Producing at PPG with much less help and ice time is indicative of that.

I don't always buy the narrative about less or more icetime. More icetime could lead to exhaustion and did not convert to more points at all. Michkov was actually suffering from that for a period.
Maybe the time he's getting now is the right dosage for him at this stage of his career.

 

[FriarChill]

I don't always buy the narrative about less or more icetime. More icetime could lead to exhaustion and did not convert to more points at all. Michkov was actually suffering from that for a period.
Maybe the time he's getting now is the right dosage for him at this stage of his career.

Yes, exactly. That's what i think too. He looked tired before his benching but 1 week rest was great for him apparently and the Flyers started winning games.

 

[Bombshell11]

I don't always buy the narrative about less or more icetime. More icetime could lead to exhaustion and did not convert to more points at all. Michkov was actually suffering from that for a period.
Maybe the time he's getting now is the right dosage for him at this stage of his career.

Why would Chi play Bedard 20 mins a game when he clearly cant handle it and would benefit from playing 14 mins until hes more mature

 

[ellja3]

Not sure why it's controversial or debatable that a guy who has played max 41 games (!) in way less intense league needs some load management (that's what she said). (I did not count MHL and don't think I should)

Surely overuse injury would be no bueno this early on