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RW/LW Vasili Podkolzin - SKA-Neva St.Petersburg, VHL (2019, 10th, VAN)

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Why would Zadorov know these things? It's not normal for a non elite player to have any idea of who their team is going to pick in the draft. Is this some clever smokescreen set up by Sakic?
 
57special said:
Why would Zadorov know these things? It's not normal for a non elite player to have any idea of who their team is going to pick in the draft. Is this some clever smokescreen set up by Sakic?
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The Avs are probably the last team in the league that would do smokescreens.
Remember when Sakic flat out told everyone that they would take a fwd #1 in the leadup to the 2013 draft?

And why would they? To prevent Chicago from drafting Pod?
Bowman basically ruled that out already anyways with his comments and I haven't found one source that talks about them even considering Pod so putting up smokescreens makes 0 sense.
If you want to pick Pod at #4 (and kill off my sanity in the process), you will be able to.
0 need for a smokescreen here.

But yeah not sure how Zads would know stuff unless they share an agent or unless he asked Sakic about it (which very well might be possible).
I mean I believe (and very much hope as an Avs fan) that by now Podkolzin is nowhere near the top5 in the draft for most teams so it does not really matter if word gets out about Pod but still a bit strange.

Anyways I hope Zads is right. Pods at #16 is fine for the Avs (very low chance he drops that far, though). Pods at #4 would be a disaster IMO.
 
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That's what makes me wonder if he's just assuming it because Pod isn't a C. Although in Sakic's presser yesterday he did make it seem like they've paired their choices down at #4 and now it's just a matter of seeing whom the hawks leave on the board for us. So it's not really clear without that follow-up question.
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If that's the case why did he say the Avs would pick Kakko at 1st?
 
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If that's the case why did he say the Avs would pick Kakko at 1st?
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Wouldn't be surprised to see Kakko make the transition to centre. Looked great in the games he did play centre. He did mention he's more comfortable on wing, but if a team drafts him and wants to make him a centre I think he would.
 
If he somehow falls out of the teens I would be upset if Bowman doesnt try to sneak back in to the first round
 
I think Pod will fall a while. I think he'll be #2 on a lot of lists by the time he's up and once a few teams skip him, he'll drop even more. If he doesn't go at like 6 He's going to sit a while on draft day I think. That's just my feel on the GM's drafting early in the draft.
 
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I'll be shocked if he doesn't go top 6, even with the history of baffling decisions NHL teams have made with russian prospects.
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Youd think but there are a lot of old school GMs still running things. I would assume Yzerman picks him up for Detroit, but if he doesnt pick him up Pod will fall a bit
 
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Youd think but there are a lot of old school GMs still running things. I would assume Yzerman picks him up for Detroit, but if he doesnt pick him up Pod will fall a bit
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I dunno about LA's current FO, but I know that Chicago & Colorado aren't afraid to take euros/russians. And then there's the Yzerman backstop that I just can't see him falling past...unfortunately. So even though drafting Zegras 4th and then trading up from 16 for Pod is my wet dream for this draft; I just can't see him still on the board by picks 8 or 9, that we may be able to move up to. Pod's a lot better prospect than Kravtsov was last year when Vitaly went top 10.
 
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cgf said:
I'll be shocked if he doesn't go top 6, even with the history of baffling decisions NHL teams have made with russian prospects.
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I'd be shocked if he gets picked in the top 6. He will probably get drafted around 11.
 
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I think he's top-5 talent, but if he's not taken by Detroit at #6, I don't see him getting drafted until about the 10-15 range (Kind of like what happened to Kopitar). I'll be shocked if goes lower than 15, most likely somewhere at 10-12.
 
In any hypothetical, I'd be absolutely shocked if Podkolzin is still up after Montreal picks, unless someone silly like Boldy drops.
 
IF they have the choice, I wonder who ARI picks at #14, Kaliyev or Pod? You would think Pod, but Kaliyev is a goal scorer with good size, who might be able to play on their team in a year. Hard to pass that up, for them.
 
cgf said:
I guess we'll find out soon enough, but it's hard to see him making it any further than Detroit at #6.
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I think the top 4 is pretty clear with Hughes, Kakko, Byram, and Turcotte. Then the next two taken might be Cozens and Zegras, with a chance of Caufield, Dach, and Krebs. Then I think Podkolzin is in conversation for the next few picks, but I think the names I have listed go before him.
 
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Castle8130 said:
I think the top 4 is pretty clear with Hughes, Kakko, Byram, and Turcotte. Then the next two taken might be Cozens and Zegras, with a chance of Caufield, Dach, and Krebs. Then I think Podkolzin is in conversation for the next few picks, but I think the names I have listed go before him.
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As a guy sitting at home I'd agree with you, but i can't get out of my head that scouts have consistently had Pod ranked higher than almost all of those players throughout the year.
 
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Castle8130 said:
I'd be shocked if he gets picked in the top 6. He will probably get drafted around 11.
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2 months ago McKenzie said 8 out of 10 NHL scouts he polled had Podkolzin as the #3 player in the draft.

Not sure one tournament where he was hurt/fatigued is going to change their minds as much as you suggest.

Eight of 10 scouts had Podkolzin at No. 3 and there appears to be some separation between the top three and the rest of the class. The only other two prospects who got any consideration as a top-three pick were Saskatoon Blades’ centre Kirby Dach and Lethbridge Hurricanes’ centre Dylan Cozens, each of whom got one vote at No. 3.
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https://www.tsn.ca/hughes-kakko-in-tight-race-for-top-spot-1.1284470
 
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I think the top 4 is pretty clear with Hughes, Kakko, Byram, and Turcotte. Then the next two taken might be Cozens and Zegras, with a chance of Caufield, Dach, and Krebs. Then I think Podkolzin is in conversation for the next few picks, but I think the names I have listed go before him.
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Fair enough, this place would be less fun if we all agreed on everything.

My current guess is that Byram is sitting there at #5 because the Hawks took Turcotte & we picked Zegras; leaving Pod for Detroit, with Caufield & Dach coming off the board after that, before Cozens & Boldy round out the top 10.

Although I won't be surprised at all if Krebs creeps into the top 10; he's the exact kind of prospect that tends to get over-drafted in the later top 10 because he's a smart CHL-based center. Nor would it surprise me if the Hawks take Byram 3rd. But the only way I see Pod making it past Detroit is if Byram is also there when they pick and they rate Byram more than Pod.

But I haven't really thought through that scenario because I don't think LA would pass on Byram unless Hughes and/or Kakko were also (somehow) still on the board...although I don't have much a read on the Kings and what they're likely to do, so that may be an entirely off-base assumption on my part.
 
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I dunno about LA's current FO, but I know that Chicago & Colorado aren't afraid to take euros/russians. And then there's the Yzerman backstop that I just can't see him falling past...unfortunately. So even though drafting Zegras 3rd and then trading up from 16 for Pod is my wet dream for this draft; I just can't see him still on the board by picks 8 or 9, that we may be able to move up to. Pod's a lot better prospect than Kravtsov was last year when Vitaly went top 10.
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They seem more open to it than past regimes considering the Kovalchuk and Prokhorkin signings, but I'm just not sure they can see past the other kids available there.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
They seem more open to it than past regimes considering the Kovalchuk and Prokhorkin signings, but I'm just not sure they can see past the other kids available there.
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Graz. Am I right to assume that you guys probably wouldn't let Byram stay on the board if Chicago & us take Turcotte & Zegras 3 & 4?
 

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