RW/LW Klim Kostin (2017, 31st, STL, traded to EDM)

[mikeyp24]

And I really dislike the fact Kostin refused assignment to Kootenay. I know they're a bad team but sometimes you have to make the best of a unfavorable situation. Nail Yakupov had to go to a very bad Sarnia team only to get drafted by Edmonton and for all that losing by God I don't think the young man ever complained once. Since coming to the NHL he's tried and failed only to try and fail again. And yet he STILL refuses to give up and states he's not leaving the NHL. He may not end up being a big time 1st overall pick but that's at least the kind of attitude I'd want in my players.

He didn't say anything about the NHL though... He's saying he won't play in the CHL and why would he? What helps him more playing for the worst team there or grow playing actual men and getting paid more in Russia. Development wise and financially the CHL doesn't help him.

 

[Daximus]

Don't blame him. If he's a one and done and then going to the AHL, why go to the absolute worst team probably in the whole CHL?

They likely drafted him knowing full well he didn't want to play with them and wanted to play elsewhere in the WHL. So they draft him for his rights so they can trade him to a contender and get some young pieces to build around Peyton Krebs.

And I really dislike the fact Kostin refused assignment to Kootenay. I know they're a bad team but sometimes you have to make the best of a unfavorable situation. Nail Yakupov had to go to a very bad Sarnia team only to get drafted by Edmonton and for all that losing by God I don't think the young man ever complained once. Since coming to the NHL he's tried and failed only to try and fail again. And yet he STILL refuses to give up and states he's not leaving the NHL. He may not end up being a big time 1st overall pick but that's at least the kind of attitude I'd want in my players.

It's not an assignment at all, no one is sending him here and there is nothing to refuse other than a contract offer. They likely drafted him knowing full well he didn't want to play for them. All CHL teams are free to interview players in the import drafts before the draft. Kootenay probably found out either from him or elsewhere that he wanted to come over to the CHL and they also likely knew he wouldn't play for them. They have a really solid young core coming up headlined by one of the top 16 year old prospects in the WHL, Peyton Krebs, and I'm guessing they drafted Kostin so they could trade his rights for more young pieces and picks to a WHL contender. Smart move by Kootenay if they can find a buyer.

He didn't say anything about the NHL though... He's saying he won't play in the CHL and why would he? What helps him more playing for the worst team there or grow playing actual men and getting paid more in Russia. Development wise and financially the CHL doesn't help him.

He didn't say he wouldn't play in the CHL. He said he would. He said he wouldn't play for Kootenay though. Kootenay likely knew he wanted to come over but didn't want to play for them so they drafted him anyways to trade his rights to a contender so they can get futures to continue building around the top players they have been drafting.

 

[ecemleafs]

U got the power u can do what u want. If the chl wants u and u have other options than they can put u in a good environment to succeed

 

[BigRangy]

And I really dislike the fact Kostin refused assignment to Kootenay. I know they're a bad team but sometimes you have to make the best of a unfavorable situation. Nail Yakupov had to go to a very bad Sarnia team only to get drafted by Edmonton and for all that losing by God I don't think the young man ever complained once. Since coming to the NHL he's tried and failed only to try and fail again. And yet he STILL refuses to give up and states he's not leaving the NHL. He may not end up being a big time 1st overall pick but that's at least the kind of attitude I'd want in my players.

If Yakupov didn't go to such a complete disaster of a development organization then maybe he's not a borderline NHLer right now. He probably should have complained.

You can't fault a player for not wanting to go to a place that isn't the best for their development, especially when they have the choice not to.

 

[PG Canuck]

And I really dislike the fact Kostin refused assignment to Kootenay. I know they're a bad team but sometimes you have to make the best of a unfavorable situation. Nail Yakupov had to go to a very bad Sarnia team only to get drafted by Edmonton and for all that losing by God I don't think the young man ever complained once. Since coming to the NHL he's tried and failed only to try and fail again. And yet he STILL refuses to give up and states he's not leaving the NHL. He may not end up being a big time 1st overall pick but that's at least the kind of attitude I'd want in my players.

Maybe that's the exact situation Kostin doesn't want to be a part of - Nail Yakupov's career. Kootenay is an absolute tirefire...like relocation worthy tirefire. There is nothing good about them. It's a waste. I don't think it means he's a quitter, he's just smarter - that's what I want in a prospect as well.

I do get what you are saying and do agree to an extent, but it's just failure waiting to happen. If his rights get traded to a team like Portland or Kelowna, I think he has to highly consider that option now because those are amazing junior markets with great developmental programs.

 

[Daximus]

Maybe that's the exact situation Kostin doesn't want to be a part of - Nail Yakupov's career. Kootenay is an absolute tirefire...like relocation worthy tirefire. There is nothing good about them. It's a waste. I don't think it means he's a quitter, he's just smarter - that's what I want in a prospect as well.

I do get what you are saying and do agree to an extent, but it's just failure waiting to happen. If his rights get traded to a team like Portland or Kelowna, I think he has to highly consider that option now because those are amazing junior markets with great developmental programs.

I 100% guarantee you that was Kootenay's plan all along.

 

[PG Canuck]

I 100% guarantee you that was Kootenay's plan all along.

I don't doubt it. If he came to play for them, great, if not, he's a pretty good asset to move if he is truly considering the WHL. A powerhouse like Kelowna/Portland/Seattle could very well sway Kostin to come over.

 

[Daximus]

I don't doubt it. If he came to play for them, great, if not, he's a pretty good asset to move if he is truly considering the WHL. A powerhouse like Kelowna/Portland/Seattle could very well sway Kostin to come over.

They have some good young pieces now with Krebs, McClennon, McMaster and Fluery.

They need to move Kostin to add some more futures though. They should probably also get a few new imports if they can. The two Russians they have are pretty bad.

 

[Caser]

Unless you have the speed and finesse with the puck of Pavel Bure (and I doubt anyone ever will again) it is a very bad idea to try to attack multiple defenders with the puck. This young man is going to get eaten alive at the NHL level trying to do these things.

The highlights are courageous displays of skill but stuff like this only works for so long against your peers.

I don't doubt that it won't work in the NHL, just wanted to note that in those gifs he has done it Vs. pros in VHL, not playing against peers.

 

[phillipsj89]

They have some good young pieces now with Krebs, McClennon, McMaster and Fluery.

They need to move Kostin to add some more futures though. They should probably also get a few new imports if they can. The two Russians they have are pretty bad.

They only have 1 import, if they had 2 that would mean they released Kostin and he could be re-drafted.

 

[Castle8130]

This kids got so much potential

 

[Caser]

Since this thread has been bumped anyway, I wanted to add that one of the biggest Combine surprises was that Kostin was measured at 207 lbs (he was 196 lbs at the start of the season), so looks like he got some workouts even despite the surgery.

 

[Nalyd Psycho]

Since this thread has been bumped anyway, I wanted to add that one of the biggest Combine surprises was that Kostin was measured at 207 lbs (he was 196 lbs at the start of the season), so looks like he got some workouts even despite the surgery.

Is that 11lbs of muscle though?

 

[Caser]

Is that 11lbs of muscle though?

He didn't look overweight to me (at least judging by the Combine photos), if that's what you mean.

 

[93LEAFS]

He didn't look overweight to me (at least judging by the Combine photos), if that's what you mean.

It's hard to tell, but generally, guys have trouble keeping weight on during the season due to playing schedule (especially CHL guys). While not out of shape, not having a grinding schedule may have led to him coming in with more bulk than guys coming off a long season (for example Vilardi).

 

[Caser]

Kostin has been interviewed by 25 teams at the Combine.

 

[King In The North]

Is that 11lbs of muscle though?

Probably not but you have to bulk to build muscle.

 

[wings5]

Probably not but you have to bulk to build muscle.

Yeah but I think most are just hoping it's not mostly fat, you don't put on weight and then work out to turn it all into muscle, thats not how it works. You build muscle which sometimes entails putting on fat at the same time, but as long as there's more muscle gain than fat gain it shouldn't be too bad.

 

[Zaddy]

Don't know why everyone is so down on this kid. He has a great skillset. Probably needs to keep it a bit more simple at times, but I think that'll come as he learns to play against men. Don't think he has elite skill, but he could be a 1st line winger who plays a solid all-around game and puts up 60 points a year. If he slides to #22 I hope the Oilers are taking him.

 

[Sundinisagod]

If Leafs don't go D, I think Kostin will be our pick at 17.

 

[wings5]

How much worse of a prospect is he than Pulju? Seems he has similar traits. Also between Kostin and Guryanov, who has the most potential?

 

[MaxV]

He has become so widely believed to be overrated that he might now be underrated.

Guys, keep something in mind, his failures this season were not making a big impact for KHL's Dinamo and VHL's Balashikha. Those are 2 senior teams that were either top 5 in their league (Dinamo) or league champs (Balashikha).

Both teams had very strong veteran presence and neither needed a 17-year-old, even one as talented as Kostin.

 

[wings5]

He has become so widely believed to be overrated that he might now be underrated.

Guys, keep something in mind, his failures this season were not making a big impact for KHL's Dinamo and VHL's Balashikha. Those are 2 senior teams that were either top 5 in their league (Dinamo) or league champs (Balashikha).

Both teams had very strong veteran presence and neither needed a 17-year-old, even one as talented as Kostin.

How does he compare to Guryanov?

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Huge flight risk especially if he isnt gifted a role in the nhl he isnt ready for. Nichuskin was a better prospect and.look at him.now.

Would not pick in 1st rnd.

 

[MaxV]

How does he compare to Guryanov?

I would say Guryanov projects more of a goal-scorer, while Kostin is more of a play-maker.

Just me take from limited viewing.