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RW Kaapo Kakko - TPS, Liiga (2019 Draft)

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Hockeyisl1fe said:
What about the WAR stat, is that useless too? It suggests the exact same thing: his value for his team is exclusively related to how much he can score goals and nothing else really.
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Whose estimate of WAR are you using and what's included in the model?
 
Ippenator said:
And I just stated as a fact that a huge majority of 187 cm or taller players weigh at least 94 kg or even clearly more. That should prove that it is in general how that tall players are built. If you weigh under 94 kg and are 187 cm or more tall, you are a real rarity. It just means that statistically it’s not likely for Kakko to become a real NHL top player if he will not weigh at least 94 kg. Possible for sure, but just statistically much unlikelier than if he would be bulked up enough.
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Mcdavid 185cm and 87kg
Bergeron 185cm 88kg

But yeah those are 2 cm smaller...


Malkin 192cm 88kg

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Anyways i agree that players are prefferebly beefier (unless its fat) but if kakko is skilled enough he can definatly make the nhl even under that 94kg weight...he will probably weight around that at his prime
 
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After Laine he is the next favourite player (personally speaking) to follow next year. So glad that FEL starts up at early September (~month before the NHL) so there's less than two months until I get to see how much he has developed over the summer. Got a feeling he could have one of the best ever D eligible FEL seasons ahead of him (at least when talking about regular season). Go Kakko gogo!
 
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Here is Kaapo Kaako U17 stats against other past top prospects. He has the 3rd best PTS/GP ever for a U17 player in the league.
 
Here is Kaapo Kaako U17 stats against other past top prospects. He has the 3rd best PTS/GP ever for a U17 player in the league.

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kelsier said:
After Laine he is the next favourite player (personally speaking) to follow next year. So glad that FEL starts up at early September (~month before the NHL) so there's less than two months until I get to see how much he has developed over the summer. Got a feeling he could have one of the best ever D eligible FEL seasons ahead of him (at least when talking about regular season). Go Kakko gogo!
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You can see him in few days too

Leijonat.fi - Live-lähetykset Nuorten Leijonien Tshekki-peleistä 23.-24.7.2018

U20 Summer Showcase is also played next weekend
 
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Here is Kaapo Kaako U17 stats against other past top prospects. He has the 3rd best PTS/GP ever for a U17 player in the league.

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Just how many times does it need to be said that you can't directly compare the scoring like that? If we're comparing to the older statistics, his fall stats(32p in 26gp, 1.23ppg) might be comparable enough. But his scoring in the lower bracket(23p in 12gp) just is not. Scoring's about twice as easy there as in the upper bracket(aka the actual Jr. A SM-Liiga). Take Sebastian Aho for instance - You just cannot compare the two in such a manner and have Kakko above. If you are to compare the two, it should be with the 1.23PPG number.

I feel like a broken record. It can't be that difficult to actually look the statistics up. It's almost like considering Liiga and Mestis scoring equal for seniors!
 
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ijuka said:
Just how many times does it need to be said that you can't directly compare the scoring like that? If we're comparing to the older statistics, his fall stats(32p in 26gp, 1.23ppg) might be comparable enough. But his scoring in the lower bracket(23p in 12gp) just is not. Scoring's about twice as easy there as in the upper bracket(aka the actual Jr. A SM-Liiga). Take Sebastian Aho for instance - You just cannot compare the two in such a manner and have Kakko above. If you are to compare the two, it should be with the 1.23PPG number.

I feel like a broken record. It can't be that difficult to actually look the statistics up. It's almost like considering Liiga and Mestis scoring equal for seniors!
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Where is a good English place to get those separate stats?
 
ijuka said:
Just how many times does it need to be said that you can't directly compare the scoring like that? If we're comparing to the older statistics, his fall stats(32p in 26gp, 1.23ppg) might be comparable enough. But his scoring in the lower bracket(23p in 12gp) just is not. Scoring's about twice as easy there as in the upper bracket(aka the actual Jr. A SM-Liiga). Take Sebastian Aho for instance - You just cannot compare the two in such a manner and have Kakko above. If you are to compare the two, it should be with the 1.23PPG number.

I feel like a broken record. It can't be that difficult to actually look the statistics up. It's almost like considering Liiga and Mestis scoring equal for seniors!
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They aren't directly comparable but gotta remember when Aho put up those numbers, he had 2 players in his team with similar point totals and Puljujärvi had even higher PPG whereas Kakko outscored his closest teammate by 13 points in 23 less games. Kakko's team was clearly less talented and he pretty much had to carry his team's offence that year.

Even if we can't compare the numbers directly, they should be a good indicator how well Kakko has done compared to some of the best Finnish forwards in recent years.
 
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Daximus said:
Where is a good English place to get those separate stats?
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I don't know if there is any. Possibly behind a paywall. For free you can find those in Finnish.

Etsi <--- there in finnish

Etsi = search
pelaajan nimi = players name
joukkue = team
valitse sarja = search a serie/division
sarjat ja tilastot = series and stats
pelaajatilastot = player stats
 
kelsier said:
After Laine he is the next favourite player (personally speaking) to follow next year. So glad that FEL starts up at early September (~month before the NHL) so there's less than two months until I get to see how much he has developed over the summer. Got a feeling he could have one of the best ever D eligible FEL seasons ahead of him (at least when talking about regular season). Go Kakko gogo!
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I can relate that. Kakko Laine and Barkov are all prospects i've been excited about. I hope Kakko can elevate his game next season to another level.
 
Finland vs Czech under 20 starts in an hour. Kakko plays in 1st line next to Jesperi Kotkaniemi.
 
Well, Kakko already got an assist so I guess the match started pretty well for him.
 
Thought he was okay yesterday. The first goal was just classic Kakko, he draw 3 players towards him at the corner and managed to slip the puck to a team mate who could drive to the net without interference and score. Think Kakko got another assist later on in the game. The Finns just destroyed the Czechs and it wasn't just a one line's show. I think the Finns played like maybe 4 minutes at 5 -3 disadvantage in the first period alone and took penalty after penalty and still were able to get the KO.
 
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