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True. 4th liners also rarely singlehandedly lose huge games for their teams because they know their roles and work hard not to screw up.
I wonder where JV fits in?
RW Jake Virtanen (2014, 6th, VAN) III
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True. 4th liners also rarely singlehandedly lose huge games for their teams because they know their roles and work hard not to screw up.
I wonder where JV fits in?
Brock Radunske
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His upside is top-6 power forward but his downside is messing up my sandwich order at Subway.
If I was a coach is much rather have to teach hockey IQ and Xs and Os rather than teaching someone how to skate , be gritty and fearless and be physically dominant.
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I don't think anyone is denying the kid's upside. He's got all the tools to be a succesful NHLer. His lack fo hockey sense could really hold him back though.
Your spin in your posts to try to defend the guy is painful to read. Face it. He was drafted 6th overall when we could have taken Nylander, Ehlers or even Ritchie and since then has done basically nothing .
-mediocre plus 1 draft year
-1 assist in 10 AHL games
- 4 points in 16 NHL games
- 1 point in 5 games playing with Strome on the top line with multiple decision making breakdowns.
give it a rest already. We dont know if he will eventually develop into a 20 20 Raffi Torres or not. But today is not that day.
Lots of time for that. Especially since he Wil be staying w. The Canucks and be day in and day out of the 2 smartest hockey IQ players I'm history of NHL. Sedins
Breakers
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Wow........ is Jim Benning serious???
That's embarrassingly bad work as a GM.
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Agree to disagree. You can't teach hockey IQ. I'm not saying Virtanen will never get better, or that he's topped out. But his lack of hockey IQ and vision will hold him back at some point.
We drafted JV to be an important part of the team for when he is 23 yrs old. Maybe Nylander Rulers are better prospects now but there is a lot of time left to prove for all players.
I would still rather have JV as I think his skill set is harder to draft and develop compared to what Nylander and Ehlers can bring u.
Look at Alex Nylander I think he is going to be better than William. It's not rare to find skilled players every year. If Jake pans out its very rare to find what he can bring.
You can't teach hockey IQ and Xs and Os ? What the check are coaches for. Maybe u can't teach elite hockey vision but that's rare anyways.
Jake will never lead a team in assists. Why should he be judged for that and his vision. That's not what he is drafted for.
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Are you suggesting that no NHL player has singlehandedly lost a big game for them. If so, take a look at this.
Wow........ is Jim Benning serious???
That's embarrassingly bad work as a GM.
Care to elaborate ? I'd much rather have him spending everyday w b the Sedins especially if Hockey IQ is his need rather than bulldozing nobodies in the WHL.
Neil Hamburger
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Travis Sanheim, a defenseman on his team drafted in the same draft class, put up a 0.97 PPG last season in the WHL, while Virtanen put up a 1.04 PPG. Sanheim is back in the WHL this season, and has put up a PPG of 1.29... it's not like Virtanen is too good for the WHL...
He wasn't "bulldozing nobodies".
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ummmm....thats a normal NHL rush play that 95% of NHL players can make...
you agree He's not an amazing pick, so what are you saying He could become? One of the Best 4TH liners? (If He learns some discipline)
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Some of you are overreacting. He took some bad penalties that had a big impact on his team losing, that happens in the NHL, junior hockey, pretty much everywhere, its part of the game.
Virt should be traded for a FEL player. I am sure they love him in Finland
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How can anyone watch this kid and say he has top six upside?
He can't score, he not fast, and he's way too dumb to play with skill players. I think in a perfect world he can be that third line winger that's good on the forecheck and brings energy but most teams are using an offensive third line now.
Also lol at complaining about the refs... Come on Jake you cost your team and your country the semis, at least own it.
He can't score, he not fast, and he's way too dumb to play with skill players. I think in a perfect world he can be that third line winger that's good on the forecheck and brings energy but most teams are using an offensive third line now.
Also lol at complaining about the refs... Come on Jake you cost your team and your country the semis, at least own it.
rarely that bad tho, taking away a 5 on 3 knowing the refs arm is up then taking an other penalty after the ref had his arm up on a call on him is unforgivable
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Is he fast enough to warrant being a top six forward despite his lack of offensive ability? Heck no.
He is physically too good for WHL. He needs to develop his IQ and that will be better served with Pro Players and Pro coaching around him.
Every year especially this year the WJC exposes how weak the CHL is because it's saturated w. Too many teams. European development has prospects playing w. Men. CHL prospects play vs kids that never make it out of JR.
Would much rather Jake be in the NHL developing over CHL
babblemoth
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I agree with this. That said, those penalties were costly. He was having a good game up to a certain point.
At age 19 ? Not many are. Are people saying development stops at 19 ??
And what does fast have to do w. Being in the top 6 ? The Sedins are hall of famers and it looks like skate on sand.
