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RW Brock Boeser - North Dakota, NCAA (2015, 23rd, VAN)

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Ho Borvat said:
Anyone else kind of see Boeser as a David Booth type of player? I don't mean this as an insult (Booths career was obviously hampered by concussion issues and various injuries).

If you look at Booths 23-27 year old seasons in Florida
73 GP: 22 goals, 18 assists
72 GP: 31 goals, 29 assists
28 GP: 8 goals, 8 assists
82 GP: 23 goals, 17 assists

I think both play a pretty North-South style, and rely on their speed, strength and shot to produce a lot of offense off the rush. Booth obviously ran into lots of injury trouble (hopefully Boeser can avoid that) but I think a peak David Booth is a pretty good comparison for what I see Boeser doing.
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not a chance, Booth was a very fast skater, and often finishes his checks. Boeser is not a fast skater, and he is not a very physical. I've seen comparisons to someone like Patrick Sharp, since he does play a very puck protection game, and a deadly release, wow that shot.
 
lawrence said:
not a chance, Booth was a very fast skater, and often finishes his checks. Boeser is not a fast skater, and he is not a very physical. I've seen comparisons to someone like Patrick Sharp, since he does play a very puck protection game, and a deadly release, wow that shot.
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But you just said Boeser isn't a fast skater? Patrick Sharp is a fantastic skater..
 
Ho Borvat said:
Anyone else kind of see Boeser as a David Booth type of player? I don't mean this as an insult (Booths career was obviously hampered by concussion issues and various injuries).

If you look at Booths 23-27 year old seasons in Florida
73 GP: 22 goals, 18 assists
72 GP: 31 goals, 29 assists
28 GP: 8 goals, 8 assists
82 GP: 23 goals, 17 assists

I think both play a pretty North-South style, and rely on their speed, strength and shot to produce a lot of offense off the rush. Booth obviously ran into lots of injury trouble (hopefully Boeser can avoid that) but I think a peak David Booth is a pretty good comparison for what I see Boeser doing.
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If anything Virtanen looks stylistically a lot closer to Booth.

Boeser is pure shooter.
 
What's with the Booth comparisons. Booth's greatest attribute was his speed, but he was a low iq player who was one trick pony. The complete opposite to Boeser, who is greatest weakness is his skating, but is an extremely high IQ. Boeser for play style comparisons is more like prime Vrbata, great shot, decent offensive skills, above average passing, clunky skating that is average, and good IQ. Boeser is a way better defensive player though, and has more offensive potential.
 
Scorvat said:
What's with the Booth comparisons. Booth's greatest attribute was his speed, but he was a low iq player who was one trick pony. The complete opposite to Boeser, who is greatest weakness is his skating, but is an extremely high IQ. Boeser for play style comparisons is more like prime Vrbata, great shot, decent offensive skills, above average passing, clunky skating that is average, and good IQ. Boeser is a way better defensive player though, and has more offensive potential.
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Anyone who compares him to Booth doesn't know what they're talking about.
 
Scorvat said:
What's with the Booth comparisons. Booth's greatest attribute was his speed, but he was a low iq player who was one trick pony. The complete opposite to Boeser, who is greatest weakness is his skating, but is an extremely high IQ. Boeser for play style comparisons is more like prime Vrbata, great shot, decent offensive skills, above average passing, clunky skating that is average, and good IQ. Boeser is a way better defensive player though, and has more offensive potential.
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Pacorietty or Okposo

Sharp isn't really a good comparison as Boeser has a much better shot
 
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TLEHMANN said:
sharp can also FLY. His skating in his prime, especially with the puck on his stick, was great.
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Yes Boeser definitely needs to work on his skating before he can be compared to Pacioretty or Sharp. He's more like James Neal at this point until his skating improves.
 
Yeah he doesn't have elite skating ability and that got exposed a little bit at the WJC on the big ice. He's not slow, his technique looks fine, and he has really good edgework, so lots of reason to believe skating can be a strength rather than a weakness with the right off-ice work.
 
Love said:
Yes Boeser definitely needs to work on his skating before he can be compared to Pacioretty or Sharp. He's more like James Neal at this point until his skating improves.
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once again, benning is a great drafter, his GM work, IDK. but love his drafting.
 
TLEHMANN said:
once again, benning is a great drafter, his GM work, IDK. but love his drafting.
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yeah, you would, what with that swedish OFD he sent to your team

but seriously - brock boeser / thatcher demko / nikita tryamkin / dmitry zhukenov are picks i really, really like - he's got more picks tracking well, like adam gaudette and tate olson

to say nothing of jake virtanen and jared mccann
 
TLEHMANN said:
once again, benning is a great drafter, his GM work, IDK. but love his drafting.
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He's been pretty good at the draft, although some would say his most important pick as a GM was the incorrect pick.
 
Love said:
He's been pretty good at the draft, although some would say his most important pick as a GM was the incorrect pick.
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My issue as well

Although Virtanen has played consistently well for the first time in his career since returning from the WJC

He had five good consecutive games prior to the last one, which was impressive. Usually we're lucky to string together two good periods in a row.
 
McPeen said:
My issue as well

Although Virtanen has played consistently well for the first time in his career since returning from the WJC

He had five good consecutive games prior to the last one, which was impressive. Usually we're lucky to string together two good periods in a row.
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Despite being really, really disappointed with his WJC play I think his treatment by fans and media in Canada has been the best thing to happen to him since he was slotted into the NHL by Jimbo. He has a chip on his shoulder and he knows he didn't do what he should have on a huge stage, now it's up to him, and him only, to prove them wrong and be better.
 
AmericanDream said:
Boeser was bad at the WJC. Plain and simple. Easily the most disappointing player for me on this squad. I am a huge fan of his but he just looked so out of place for some reason which was so damn odd because his center Nick Schmaltz was easily one of the best forwards on the team and in the tourney.

Boeser just missed shots on net, missed chances entirely, or just shot and hit the goalie's crest when it did get on net. He is a 97' so he has another shot at tearing things up next year, but his play which was not good shouldn't be indicative of the player he is. Some players just cannot adapt to secondary roles in a short tournament when used to being the big dog which he has been for the past few years.

I wouldn't worry about him at all as he is going to be a player, but his WJC was pretty close to terrible from a player of his standard and skillset.
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While i wasn't exactly impressed by Boesers performance in the WJC, i felt that Wilson barely even played him (or his line), aside from him being promoted to the 1st line when DeBrincat was ejected from the Canada game. I felt that Wilson overplayed that Matthews line, even though they did a great job obviously. Boeser probably had less ice-time than most forwards on that team, since Schmaltz played on the 1st PP with the top-guys, and the 4th line guys played on the PK.

Being from Sweden, i think one of the strenghts and advantages for the European teams in the WJC is the fact that the players are usually used to the ice-time that they're awarded. 4th liners are 4th liners, 3rd liners are 3rd liners and so on. They're barely demoted from the role that they're used to on their team (in Boesers case, 1st line minutes in UND.) And it's probably easier when you're being handed 1st or 2nd line minutes (when you're used to 3rd line minutes on your team) than the other way around. Canada and US often have the most talented teams in the WJC with more 1st rounders (or other high drafted players) than any other team in the tournament, but it doesn't mean that they will automatically be the best teams in the tournament.

But yeah i do agree that Boeser looked a little out of place, and his skating could use some work. He's not slow but not really fast either. But again, i wouldn't put his performance in the WJC entirely on Boeser, and i'm not saying you're doing that either.
 
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