Prospect Info: Rutger McGroarty, 2022 NHL Draft, #14 Overall

[gojetsgo]

Well if he's as set on that as you say he may find himself back in College as few teams give guaranteed spots out.

it's not me saying it, I'm going off of what's actually been reported and not creating my own theories as to why it's gotten to this point

 

[bustamente]

Yeah this is starting to get a bit out of hand. Honestly I hope Chwvy can find a trade that works soon and we can stop all this speculation. I think it's as simple as he doesn't want to be here.

Always a possibility but the kid seems really sure of himself and thinks right or wrong that he should be given a roster spot, the rest is just noise.

 

[surixon]

Always a possibility but the kid seems really sure of himself and thinks right or wrong that he should be given a roster spot, the rest is just noise.

If he's so sure of himself he'd have no issue winning one. Seems to me he's not so sure of himself if he needs guarantees.

But I'm getting a bit sick of talking about a player who is no longer part of the solution here.

 

[bustamente]

If he's so sure of himself he'd have no issue winning one. Seems to me he's not so sure of himself if he needs guarantees.

But I'm getting a bit sick of talking about a player who is no longer part of the solution here.

Until he is traded there is always a possibility that he signs and then it's all water under the bridge. forgive and forget, everything is peachy keen.

 

[surixon]

Until he is traded there is always a possibility that he signs and then it's all water under the bridge. forgive and forget, everything is peachy keen.

I'd say that happening is incredibly slim at this point.

 

[bustamente]

I'd say that happening is incredibly slim at this point.

Maybe , maybe not Chevy isn’t just going to give him away and we may be talking about him next year at this time

 

[GeorgeJETson]

why can't it be as simple as he wants to play in the nhl, the reason that has been reported by multiple people, I don't why it has to be different then that...

 

[lanky]

I think Chevy will be happy to give him assurances of getting a roster spot next year. I don't think he'll help him burn a year by signing right after the NCAA season.

I think Rutger would sign next summer. I don't think he WANTS to go back to college for one more year, let alone two more years.

The best path forward is a win-win trade. Barring that, I think it's very possible that Rutger plays with the Jets in 2025-26.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Sure that's the stated reason, but it seems flimsy to me because as of now there is a top 6 spot open on the team and he'd likely be the front runner to win it. How much more of an opportunity to play in the NHL should he realistically expect? Even the Buffalo Sabres and Columbus Blue Jackets aren't gifting spots to prospects without them earning them. Hence Jiricek and Johnson spending lots of time in the AHL last year due to not performing well enough and Savoie being traded recently due to being blocked.

It just seems strange to me that they had such a huge falling out over him not being gifted a starting spot on a 4th place team that had loaded up at the deadline.

I think if that was the case then that would have been the stated reason. Does far less damage to him than the story of these demands.

In fact the easiest thing is to simply demand a trade and say no more.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

I heard that Rutger wanted a guarantee that the Jets draft Rutger "Rutgy" McGroarty Jr. in 20 years.

His likeness replace the golden boy above the leg.

 

[buggs]

Looking through the roster of Jets forwards of the past drafted (by Jets or other teams) in the first round, their relative draft position and their number of games in their first NHL season and when that occurred:

Nik Antropov 10th overall 1998 66 games 99-00 season Leafs
Alexander Burmistrov 8 OA Atlanta 2010 74 games 10-11 season
Eric Fehr 18 OA Washington 2003 11 games 05-06 season
Evander Kane 4 OA Atlanta 2009 66 games 09-10 season
Andrew Ladd 4 OA Carolina 2004 29 games 05-06 season
Bryan Little 12 OA Atlanta 2006 48 games 07-08 season
Blake Wheeler 5 OA Phoenix 2004 81 games 08-09 season *
Mark Scheifele 7 OA Winnipeg 2011 7 games 11-12 season
Jim Slater 30 OA Atlanta 2002 10 games 05-06 season
Olli Jokinen 3 OA LA Kings 1997 9 games 97-98 season
Michael Frolik 10 OA Florida 2006 79 games 08-09 season
Devin Stoguchi 8 OA San Jose 2005 44 games 07-08 season
Drew Stafford 13 OA Buffalo 2004 41 games 06-07 season
Jiri Tlusty 13 OA Toronto 2006 58 games 07-08 season
Joel Armia 16 OA Buffalo 2011 1 game 14-15 season
Marko Dano 27 OA Columbus 2013 35 games 14-15 season
Nikolaj Ehlers 9 OA Winnipeg 2014 72 games 15-16 season
Kyle Connor 17 OA WInnipeg 2015 20 games 16-17 season
Quinton Howden 25 OA Florida 2010 18 games 12-13 season
Patrik Laine 2 OA Winnipeg 2016 73 games 16-17 season
Jack Roslovic 25 OA Winnipeg 2016 1 game 16-17 season
Kevin Hayes 24 OA Chicago 2010 79 games 14-15 season
Kristian Veslainen 24 OA Winnipeg 2017 5 games 18-19 season
Pierre Luc-Dubois 3 OA Columbus 2016 82 games 17-18 season
Trevor Lewis 17 OA LA Kings 2006 6 games 08-09 season
Riley Nash 21 OA Edmonton 2007 5 games 11-12 season
Cole Perfetti 10 OA Winnipeg 2020 18 games 21-22 season
Evgeny Svechnikov 19 OA Detroit 2015 2 games 16-17 season
Sam Gagner 6 OA Edmonton 2007 79 games 07-08 season
Vladislav Namestikov 27 OA Tampa Bay 2011 4 games 13-14 season
Nino Niederreiter 5 OA NYI 2010 9 games 10-11 season
Rasmus Kupari 20 OA LA Kings 2018 7 games 20-21 season

Didn't do the defensemen as their development tends to be longer.

Only putting it here for perspective relative to draft position and number of games in the player's first season. Obviously some came in quickly, some less so. Some substantial underperformers relative to their draft position as well. Atlanta had something of a trend of "rushing" players from a certain perspective, but lots of other teams in there.

 

[UFO]

Has he been traded for 10 1st rounders yet?

 

[Bob E]

I'd say that happening is incredibly slim at this point.

Agreed.

I also think there is no rush in making a deal right now. GMs are in summer vacation mode where things get done at a slower pace. RFA contracts are discussed but usually not signed until training camp. I don’t think we see a Rutger deal now until the TDL at the earliest unless Chevy is blown away by an offer, which I don’t see happening. No rush to get Rutger into the fold, and Chevy is uncommonly patient.

So have a big year in college Rutger and increase that value of yours.

 

[Duke749]

Something happen

 

[Eyeseeing]

HF summer….
Eventually we’ll be talking about games again

 

[kylbaz]

I'd say that happening is incredibly slim at this point.

I don't know. Starting to have a small feeling he stays.

 

[kanadalainen]

Something happen

Stasis; cryosleep; catching walleye.
#problemshelved

 

[kanadalainen]

HF summer….
Eventually we’ll be talking about games again

I caught a nice fat walleye last week. Removed the hook from her lip with her beside the canoe, and let her go back to her spottails, chubs and murky environs.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I caught a nice fat walleye last week. Removed the hook from her lip with her beside the canoe, and let her go back to her spottails, chubs and murky environs.

where were you canoeing?

i really need to get out to fish one of these days. just sitting here staring at the water, but there's a million projects to do first.

 

[kanadalainen]

where were you canoeing?

i really need to get out to fish one of these days. just sitting here staring at the water, but there's a million projects to do first.

I find that canoeing and fishing is a combinatory elixir... an old plaque on my cabin wall reads that "Allah does not deduct time from man's life spent fishing".

Projects can be intercalated with fishing. In between fixing up the cabin with some new furniture (south of Wanipigow) I canoe in the Manigotagan river, or in Lake Winnipeg itself. This is about 100 km up the East side across from Black Island - its transitional boreal biome, a lot like the Whiteshell, but with black granite rather than pink. The fishing is really good.

 

[bustamente]

 

[macmaroon]

I must say, this thread has everything...

 

[Buffdog]

I caught a nice fat walleye last week. Removed the hook from her lip with her beside the canoe, and let her go back to her spottails, chubs and murky environs.

That's a strange way of saying "frying pan"

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

I find that canoeing and fishing is an combinatory elixir... an old plaque on my cabin wall reads that "Allah does not deduct time from man's life spent fishing".

My plaque on my cabin wall says….

“ Even a fish would not get in trouble….. if he only kept his mouth shut!”

 

[ps241]

where were you canoeing?

i really need to get out to fish one of these days. just sitting here staring at the water, but there's a million projects to do first.

The curse of the lake!

I find that canoeing and fishing is an combinatory elixir... an old plaque on my cabin wall reads that "Allah does not deduct time from man's life spent fishing".

Projects can be intercalated with fishing. In between fixing up the cabin with some new furniture (south of Wanipigow) I canoe in the Manigotagan river, or in Lake Winnipeg itself. This is about 100 km up the East side across from Black Island - its transitional boreal biome, a lot like the Whiteshell, but with black granite rather than pink. The fishing is really good.

Very eloquently stated as usual.

For me true relaxation is achieved on a day like yesterday. I was alone cleaning my cottage and doing all tasks before leaving back to the city. The temp was 30, sunny, and it was windy. I walked down to the dock and jumped in for a swim. After that incredible refresh I just sat in the sun in the chair in the breeze and listened to the wind in the trees and the two loons fishing and interacting with their two babies they had this year. The wind and the loons sound with no other electronics or noise was a spiritual moment for me knowing that time was fleeting and I would need to pick up my son from his job.

It’s something I can get at the lake that I just can’t duplicate.