Prospect Info: Rutger McGroarty, 2022 NHL Draft, #14 Overall

[Cnile]

I think us HF fans should stop second guessing the organization.
We are just guessing and the organization is the one with the winning track record, who are we to chime in?

 

[Scheifele55]

Winnipeg also needs to decide if playing a prospect because he demands it is going to sting more.

I see no reason why Winnipeg cannot allow McGroarty to play another season in Michigan and if he develops to their expectation then sign him and guarantee him a roster spot.

Laine was 18 when he made NHL debut,
Ehlers and Trouba were 19
Scheifele, Morrissey and Connor were 20

McGroarty will be 21 next year.

Rutger McGroarty had a great season and after this year, I see NO REASON why they cannot give him a roster spot as a 21 year old if he continues his development.

 

[kenobiwan]

I’m not a mindless bafoon so I will second guess the Jets management as I’ve done since they joined the league. It’s my right as a fan and I shan’t be denied

 

[tbcwpg]

I see no reason why Winnipeg cannot allow McGroarty to play another season in Michigan and if he develops to their expectation then sign him and guarantee him a roster spot.

Laine was 18 when he made NHL debut,
Ehlers and Trouba were 19
Scheifele, Morrissey and Connor were 20

McGroarty will be 21 next year.

Rutger McGroarty had a great season and after this year, I see NO REASON why they cannot give him a roster spot as a 21 year old if he continues his development.

I don't see a reason for that either but by all reports McGroarty thinks he's ready right now and if the Jets disagree then he'll look elsewhere. He seems hellbent against playing in the AHL.

 

[Teppo Numenor]

Chevy can milk the trade on guys like this. Big character guys who are a bit delusional.

 

[DRW204]

Look at the Blackhawks roster when Nazar came in and compare it to the Jets. Pretty sure I had a shot at making the Hawks lineup at the end of the year.

yup and same rationale for Brindley in CBJ.

Knies last year for an 111 pt team would be a more adept comparison.

 

[rkp]

are the jets really that good???...look at the last 2 playoff performances..... they r not in a win now mode..not even close.

 

[Teppo Numenor]

are the jets really that good???...look at the last 2 playoff performances..... they r not in a win now mode..not even close.

They are in win now.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

are the jets really that good???...look at the last 2 playoff performances..... they r not in a win now mode..not even close.

4th in the NHL is pretty good, could be 17th place team missing the playoffs and praying that the ~16 overall pick will turn around the franchise

 

[DRW204]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1804573503435546888

 

[Whileee]

These are mutually compatible perspectives, in my view:

1. The Jets have made enough good decisions in roster creation and coaching to create a strong team, especially for the regular season.
2. The Jets can trade McGroarty and end up as strong or stronger than they were before the trade.
3. 1. The Jets' coaches have been unnecessarily sluggish at introducing younger players into the line-up, slowing development and assessment and creating rifts with some key prospects and young players. That could hurt them in the longer term, without appreciably improving on-ice performance in the short term.

 

[Scheifele55]

hopefully things change over the next year and he signs here.

 

[Buffdog]

No I believe these top tier young players are better today than some vets on the team…. But we want to keep them at a low cost for more of their prime years by holding up some of their younger years to try and maximize the asset… This is about playing the cap and not who is a better player, And top end young players are no longer happy to play that game.

Define "better"

More skilled? Absolutely

Able to jump in and play a pro-ready game? Absolutely not (for the most part)

This isn't NHL Hockey on Playstation where a player is given a number based on their attributes. This is also why perfetti got demoted instead of Appleton. There's more to being effective in the NHL, especially in certain roles, than just pure physical skills

 

[one other person]

Worst case it’ll be fun to boo him when he plays in Winnipeg with another team

 

[SCP Guy]

Define "better"

More skilled? Absolutely

Able to jump in and play a pro-ready game? Absolutely not (for the most part)

This isn't NHL Hockey on Playstation where a player is given a number based on their attributes. This is also why perfetti got demoted instead of Appleton. There's more to being effective in the NHL, especially in certain roles, than just pure physical skills

I think Rutger in the lineup next season over a player like Apples who is a will always be JAG is the exact thing this team should be doing…. Chevy and the brass disagree so I guess he will get his shot somewhere else?

 

[MardyBum]

They are in win now.

They are, they just clearly don't know how to do it. Whether it's Chevy or two coaches or both they're a dozen steps behind the best teams.

 

[Channelcat]

I don't think the return for Gauthier is encouraging at all. It is what has me worried. Drysdale is not living up to his draft position or the hype. Not even close.

Drysdale is insanely talented.......only thing that might hold him back is the injuries.

 

[Buffdog]

I think Rutger in the lineup next season over a player like Apples who is a will always be JAG is the exact thing this team should be doing…. Chevy and the brass disagree so I guess he will get his shot somewhere else?

You'd put Rutger on Lowry's wing playing against the best players in the world every night? I'm sure the captain would appreciate babysitting the entitled 19 year old

And apparently @MardyBum plays a lot of playstation. Now everything makes sense

 

[wpgallday1960]

Have you ever been shocked at the final roster after a training camp yet?
Serious question

Good question. To be honest no but I’m not sure that’s an indicator all roster spots are pencilled in.

Turn about is fair play: has there ever been a player that DIDN’T make the Jets and whose play in the AHL clearly indicated that was the wrong decision?

 

[Cnile]

Good question. To be honest no but I’m not sure that’s an indicator all roster spots are pencilled in.

Turn about is fair play: has there ever been a player that DIDN’T make the Jets and whose play in the AHL clearly indicated that was the wrong decision?

Also a good question.
Maybe we aren’t as good as drafting as we thought ( recently )…
I can’t say we have necessarily lost out on any player that hurt us either.

 

[surixon]

Have you ever been shocked at the final roster after a training camp yet?
Serious question

Agreed, 99% of the roster is set long before camp. Maybe 1 or 2 depth spots are open to be won but usually teams don't want top prospects in those roles.

People put way too much stock in TC performance. Most vets are half assing it to shake off the rust. TC performance doesn't tell you much as the level of competition is far below NHL caliber.

 

[MardyBum]

You'd put Rutger on Lowry's wing playing against the best players in the world every night? I'm sure the captain would appreciate babysitting the entitled 19 year old

And apparently @MardyBum plays a lot of playstation. Now everything makes sense

Of course I play a lot of "Playstation", I'm not 70.

It's been a good decade plus since I played an "NHL Hockey" though .

God you sound old and out of touch.

Good question. To be honest no but I’m not sure that’s an indicator all roster spots are pencilled in.

Turn about is fair play: has there ever been a player that DIDN’T make the Jets and whose play in the AHL clearly indicated that was the wrong decision?

Kyle Connor.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Of course I play a lot of "Playstation", I'm not 70.

It's been a good decade plus since I played an "NHL Hockey" though .

God you sound old and out of touch.

You timed your exit from the NHL games perfectly, there's been a huge drop in quality ever since NHL 14

 

[surixon]

I see no reason why Winnipeg cannot allow McGroarty to play another season in Michigan and if he develops to their expectation then sign him and guarantee him a roster spot.

Laine was 18 when he made NHL debut,
Ehlers and Trouba were 19
Scheifele, Morrissey and Connor were 20

McGroarty will be 21 next year.

Rutger McGroarty had a great season and after this year, I see NO REASON why they cannot give him a roster spot as a 21 year old if he continues his development.

Sure, but that isn't what he apparently wants. If he isn't going to sign here then we need to gwt something done.

But I agree that his skating is likely not good enough yet for him to have the type of impact he'd need to have to displace anyone right now.

 

[MardyBum]

You timed your exit from the NHL games perfectly, there's been a huge drop in quality ever since NHL 14

Probably even before that for me. Late 00's Madden and NHL and then there were just too many other games to put the time into sports games every year.

My kid has me playing FC24 because so many of the kids now are into Soccer, but I can see how bad EA is with sports games even with this being my just my second one