Russians Fined for Leaving Ice Early

[Davebo*]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

I'm surprised someone with your responsibilities here, could post unsubstantiated nonsense like that.

Maybe provide some examples. I saw no after whistle nonsense - no jawing back and forth - no big dangerous hits. Canada was the faster more motivated team and dominated.

 

[Davebo*]

Of the 3 Russians that will play for the Hawks this season - Panarin and Tikhonov were 2 of the 8 (or so) players who stayed out, Anisimov did not stay out on the ice. Ovechkin and Malkin stayed out and I think Tarasenko stayed out too. Kovalchuk, Radulov and most of the others did not stay out on the ice.

Let's get something straight, though. By the time Rene Fasel started his speech, prior to the anthem - no Russians were left on the ice.

Every other team in prior championships followed this ceremony and stood for each others anthems. They knew what they were doing.

 

[1Gold Standard]

If I recall correctly, this is how the Olympic final is handled. Shake hands, receive your medals, and head off the ice so the winning team can celebrate.

Expecting a team to stick around to watch the other parade with the trophy is not reasonable.

The protocol for the Olympics is the same for the WHC, medals and/or trophies, raising of the flags and anthem of the winning team. Team Sweden remained on the ice in Sochi and departed once the anthem was finished and as Team Canada proceeded to center ice for the team photo.

 

[Villert]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

Complete speculation with no anecdotal evidence being used to validate a documented example of poor sportsmanship at a team level on one of the games biggest stages

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

Didn't this already happen once before and Cherry was livid about it?

 

[Davebo*]

Didn't this already happen once before and Cherry was livid about it?

Keep in mind - this happened back in May - is that when you saw his rant?

 

[therealdeal]

Am I the only one who things people are making a mountain out of a mole hill here? Like I realize it's protocol to stay on the ice during the celebration, but I really don't think it's that disrespectful to leave the ice during this time.

How does it benefit the Canadian players and fans to have the other team out there? I really think if it was the Finns or Swedes who did this then people would be a lot more forgiving.

Yeah, a group of players left the ice, lets get over it here people.

 

[Macman]

Am I the only one who things people are making a mountain out of a mole hill here? Like I realize it's protocol to stay on the ice during the celebration, but I really don't think it's that disrespectful to leave the ice during this time.

How does it benefit the Canadian players and fans to have the other team out there? I really think if it was the Finns or Swedes who did this then people would be a lot more forgiving.

Yeah, a group of players left the ice, lets get over it here people.

Well, the Finns and Swedes didn't do it, the Russians did and it's reflective of a pattern of poor sportsmanship that has crept into their hockey over the years, particularly when they win. They're even taunting when they score a goal against Canada of late. We can argue whether or not anthems should be played at hockey games, but it's been the protocol in international hockey since the beginning and teams know it. So it is disrespectful to leave before it's played. That was Kovalchuk's intention, clearly.

 

[therealdeal]

Well, the Finns and Swedes didn't do it, the Russians did and it's reflective of a pattern of poor sportsmanship that has crept into their hockey over the years, particularly when they win. They're even taunting when they score a goal against Canada of late. We can argue whether or not anthems should be played at hockey games, but it's been the protocol in international hockey since the beginning and teams know it. So it is disrespectful to leave before it's played. That was Kovalchuk's intention, clearly.

Man everyone is so sensitive these days. If you're looking for reasons to be mad about stuff you're going to find them. I highly doubt the Canadian players even noticed or cared that the Russians left the game early.

 

[IBLEAF]

Who cares about the anthems anyways.

well theirs always the next winter games

 

[Macman]

I highly doubt the Canadian players even noticed or cared that the Russians left the game early.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...p-gold-medal-ovechkin-babcock-spezza-radulov/

A sign of disrespect.

That’s how Team Canada forward Matt Duchene viewed the decision by the bulk of Team Russia’s players to skate off the ice before O Canada played following Team Canada’s 6-1 win over Russia in the IIHF world hockey championship final.

“I’ve lost in that tournament three times, and twice was to Russia. We stood out and listened to their anthem,†Duchene told Dean Blundell & Co. on Sportsnet 590 The Fan Thursday.

“We would never have dreamed of skating off the ice.â€

 

[JackSlater]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

Wow, embarrassing post. Pure speculation, and the lack of claims from the Russian side supporting this speculation (in fact the federation apologized for their behaviour) clearly indicates how accurate that speculation is.

Am I the only one who things people are making a mountain out of a mole hill here? Like I realize it's protocol to stay on the ice during the celebration, but I really don't think it's that disrespectful to leave the ice during this time.

How does it benefit the Canadian players and fans to have the other team out there? I really think if it was the Finns or Swedes who did this then people would be a lot more forgiving.

Yeah, a group of players left the ice, lets get over it here people.

I agree, it's not a big deal. In fact, it adds a little spice to competition with Russia. They aren't the threat to beat Canada that the Soviets were, but it's nice to have a villain.

Well, the Finns and Swedes didn't do it, the Russians did and it's reflective of a pattern of poor sportsmanship that has crept into their hockey over the years, particularly when they win. They're even taunting when they score a goal against Canada of late. We can argue whether or not anthems should be played at hockey games, but it's been the protocol in international hockey since the beginning and teams know it. So it is disrespectful to leave before it's played. That was Kovalchuk's intention, clearly.

Over the last decade or so there's been a clear pattern of poor sportsmanship among Russian teams that isn't found with other competitors, though I would say Canada has been second to Russia on this front. It hasn't involved cheating or anything like that though, and adds something to the competition.

 

[Unspecified]

The question i have is this something that will happen in the Olympics should any team other than Russia win the gold medal? Hockey players no matter the nationality, country they represent or flag they may fly should have a common respect for those that play the game regardless of what i mentioned above. There is no other team that would pull such a stunt but it seems to be a trend with the Russian athletes/teams.

 

[Atas2000]

Nobody cares. And it wasn't the players' fault. No matter what your NA press tells you.

 

[YMCMBYOLO]

Nobody cares. And it wasn't the players' fault. No matter what your NA press tells you.

Who's fault was it then?

You would be up in arms if the Canadiens left before the Russian anthem, no matter what your Russian State RT news tells you.

 

[Zine]

Who's fault was it then?

You would be up in arms if the Canadiens left before the Russian anthem, no matter what your Russian State RT news tells you.

Not really, most Russians wouldn't give two craps about it.



Please realize you guys are insanely passionate hockey fans, and, thus, tend to make mountains out of molehills at times. Especially internationally when the sport can define people's sense of collective self. Your media reflects this too. I mean just look at the WJC circus

JMHO, but Canadians LOVE getting offended by the actions of 'cocky Russians'.....and your media really promotes this angle.
But I cast no blame. It makes for a great 'good guys vs bad guys' story line. Keeps rivalries fresh. Makes for good entertainment.

 

[Canadienna]

Good. If they are bitter sore losers again I hope they are given a suspension (Or sent to Ukraine by Putin)

I can imagine that it was confusing and that some players wanted to stay while their teammates were leaving the ice, but that is no excuse.

Canadian boys at least have some respect, and honour in the game of hockey, along with MOST of the rest of the world, and I'm sure, MOST Russians.

 

[xxxx]

Not really, most Russians wouldn't give two craps about it.



Please realize you guys are insanely passionate hockey fans, and, thus, tend to make mountains out of molehills at times. Especially internationally when the sport can define people's sense of collective self. Your media reflects this too. I mean just look at the WJC circus

JMHO, but Canadians LOVE getting offended by the actions of 'cocky Russians'.....and your media really promotes this angle.
But I cast no blame. It makes for a great 'good guys vs bad guys' story line. Keeps rivalries fresh. Makes for good entertainment.

yeah, sure. Nobody ever has done this, but proud Russians wouldn't even notice if canadian players did this, right? Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Fantomas]

Canadian boys at least have some respect, and honour in the game of hockey, along with MOST of the rest of the world, and I'm sure, MOST Russians.

Are you sure?

 

[Fantomas]

This was bad leadership by Kovalchuk, who has no business being team captain. Nevertheless people need to get over it. The irony is so thick in some posters painting Russian players with the same brush and accusing them of lacking class.

 

[Canadienna]

This was bad leadership by Kovalchuk, who has no business being team captain. Nevertheless people need to get over it. The irony is so thick in some posters painting Russian players with the same brush and accusing them of lacking class.

You are not wrong, some of us, myself included, may be overreacting to it.

However a fan getting overly angry at everyone on a Russian hockey team for their actions as a team is not the same as professional hockey players being sore losers and storming out like spoiled children.

No one in here has generalized all Russian hockey players by the way. If it offends you when people say that the players on THIS Russian team had no class when they showed no class by not staying for the anthems then I can't help you.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I'm still going to give these guys a bit more of the benefit of the doubt.

I'm sure they were embarrassed by their countrymen.

Not to mention they would have received a lot of flak if they stayed away. It would have been a slap in the face of Russia, though one completely deserved. I can appreciate Ovie and co. not wanting to ruffle more feathers than already did.

 

[Era of Sanity]

anthem? They barely showed up for the game.

 

[Ryker]

anthem? They barely showed up for the game.

Zing!

 

[ottawa]

Nobody stayed out for the anthem. This is a myth that continues to live on even though the medal ceremony is there for all to see on YouTube.

Good on the IIHF for not falling for the crap that it was all a misunderstanding.

Some did stay on the ice, Ovechkin was one of those that did and was telling other players to stay out too.