Russians Fined for Leaving Ice Early

[Ryker]

time 2:09:43

confetti there, before anthems and after celebrating with the trophy, etc. Russians were still on the ice, and were listening the anthem right after that.

Well, sometimes you're in the mood for a certain song, and sometimes you just want to listen to something different

 

[EbonyRaptor]

Of the 3 Russians that will play for the Hawks this season - Panarin and Tikhonov were 2 of the 8 (or so) players who stayed out, Anisimov did not stay out on the ice. Ovechkin and Malkin stayed out and I think Tarasenko stayed out too. Kovalchuk, Radulov and most of the others did not stay out on the ice.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Of the 3 Russians that will play for the Hawks this season - Panarin and Tikhonov were 2 of the 8 (or so) players who stayed out, Anisimov did not stay out on the ice. Ovechkin and Malkin stayed out and I think Tarasenko stayed out too. Kovalchuk, Radulov and most of the others did not stay out on the ice.

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

 

[JackSlater]

Of the 3 Russians that will play for the Hawks this season - Panarin and Tikhonov were 2 of the 8 (or so) players who stayed out, Anisimov did not stay out on the ice. Ovechkin and Malkin stayed out and I think Tarasenko stayed out too. Kovalchuk, Radulov and most of the others did not stay out on the ice.

Radulov wasn't on the team.

 

[Ryker]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

Hmm, that's a good point, I haven't thought of that. But it would be quite strange for Kovalchuk to just signal for the players to leave the ice with nothing other than being sour at the loss.

 

[Frank the Tank]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

At least you have the bolded part correct.

 

[Camshaft77]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

I am sorry I can't get on board with this line of thinking. These are professional hockey players. You follow protocol and do what you are required not matter what. Pros don't get their feelings hurt and leave the ice because some players may have said some mean things... come on man there is no defense for what they did. The other excuse that the players did not know any better is a load of crap because Ovechkin,Kovalchuck,Shipachyov, Medvedev, Belov, Chudinov, Bobrovski, Shirokov, Biryukov, Yakovlev, Anisimov, Kulemin, Khudobin, Barulin, Zaripov, Plotnikov, Tikhonov, Malkin and Mozyakin

Have all previously played in World Championship final game! They know what you are expected to do. There was no excuse for all of these players ( I know some stayed out longer than others) for leaving before O Canada was played. They acted poorly and made a mistake. No excuses should be made.



http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...p-gold-medal-ovechkin-babcock-spezza-radulov/

 

[zar]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

Really, not so sure about that. If there was even the slightest possibility of this type of scenario, the Russian Ice Hockey Federation would have said so... they are not known to hold their tongue and be "politically correct".

I believe the players were embarrassed about the outcome of the game and left the ice under that emotion. I do have a sliver of respect for those who kind of stayed, but were apparently not there during the anthem. I would have the utmost respect had they stayed but they did realize that it was customary (that's why they stayed to begin with) and left anyway. It's easier to do the popular thing and follow, than to do the right thing and lead. These were not junior players who might not have known better , these are seasoned veterans who were being unprofessional. Most of these players have played in a dozen international tournaments and know what the protocols are.

IMO the fine is OK. I feel, if Kovalchuk's head wave could be proven, he should be suspended, or at the very least, offer a public apology and never be able to captain, in any way shape or form, another team in international play. Remember, this is international hockey, where sportsmanship be held in the highest regard... especially when it comes to national anthems.

 

[New User Name]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

speculation is fun

for the record I'm one that would love to see pro sports stop the asinine tradition of singing national anthems (it's sport not some stupid event for phony patriotism) and also that anthems should not be played after every win at international events.

After the finals of an international tournament award the bronze and silver medals, have those players then leave, then award the gold medals, then play the anthem of the gold medal team.

As for speculation...I speculate, if the USA had won and the Russians left, you wouldn't be speculating that the American players dishounored the Russian players in any way, shape or form.

 

[Ryker]

Wait, so how come no one brought this issue up before this fine was levied?

 

[NyQuil]

Wait, so how come no one brought this issue up before this fine was levied?

It was brought up.

 

[Acallabeth]

Quite pathetic really. If they are going to continue to do this they should not be allowed to compete.

Yeah right, this is really what should decide who should be allowed to compete and who shouldn't This is so overblown.

 

[Ryker]

It was brought up.

Ah, OK, my bad for missing it then, I guess.

 

[thrillhous]

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

With all that has been said and written about this event you would think that this sort of stuff would have come out, especially in the Russian media. But I have yet to see anything and by the sounds of it neither have you.

Complete speculation and while it's interesting I personally feel there is no point to discuss further unless someone provides a link.

And as for sharpening knives, I'd say most aren't really doing that, it's been pretty fairly handled in this thread (unless I've missed a bunch of posts that were deleted).

 

[Hutz]

Radulov wasn't on the team.

So, he's right. He wasn't on the ice for the anthem. That rat!

 

[thrillhous]

Yeah right, this is really what should decide who should be allowed to compete and who shouldn't This is so overblown.

You picked one of the few extreme posts to reply to. It has not been overblown at all, actually.

 

[Zine]

Big freakin' deal. Nobody cheated, nobody was injured, game play wasn't affected......just some questionable sportsmanship/breach of protocol,

Fine the Russian Federation and be done with it.

 

[babylonzoo]

http://www.tsn.ca/russians-fined-for-snubbing-o-canada-1.350107

The Russian Hockey Federation was fined $80,000 Swiss Francs were skating off the ice before the Canadian Anthem.

feels like USD 80million after the currency devaluation

 

[babylonzoo]

some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.
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such as?

 

[Get North]

Well, glad they are fined but I'm not surprised with what the Russians did. They've been disrespectful, cheap, dirty, and classless since forever. They once won quite a bit of gold medals, keep their mouths shut, act humble, and respectful until they win that is. Then it's all about being cocky and shoving it into the faces of the opponents. Just in the Canadian Summer Camp for the WJC, Russian goes nuts in the handshake line-up at the end of the game while everybody else is calm. I'm not trying to completely crap on the Russians but this is basically what describes them in the last 20 years other than a few gold medals.

Ovechkin has changed so much since he was younger that I can't help but think it could be they way they are developed in Russia or the attitude in that country. Ovechkin doesn't dive anymore, he's a mature guy when he celebrates, etc.

So basically the guys that play in the NHL or were leaning that way stayed out.... Could be some fairly awful things were being said during the game and the disrespect was enough they left. Those barbs might not have been tossed at the guys they consider their peers. I mean that is complete speculation but while everyone is demonizing the Russians not sticking around, could be when the stories start to break on this in the future you hear some not so flattering things about what was happening within the game by Team Canada on the sportsmanship front.

So while everyone sharpens their knives or there it will be acceptable gamesmanship as an excuse, some might want to slow down. I don't think this story will continue forever without at least one comment on why they left the ice.

I suspect the Russians will remain the villains throughout much of this. Remember this when I was still young and watched the NBA with the Pistons and Bulls. The Pistons who were not a likable team to begin with for many, but they had their reasons for doing it and a ton of it had to do with the nature with which Chicago and Jordan carried themselves in the press and during the games. By the time it came they didn't think they were owed that honor and made a point of not giving it to them.

Someone please help these poor Russians who get paid millions because the Canadians might have said something about their wives, president, or vodka.

I don't agree with this comparison to the Bulls and Pistons. People pray for a Canadian to sound confident in the media, the last thing the players talk about is themselves. And you being from Detroit seems like you might have a biased opinion of the Pistons and Bulls rivalry.

 

[daver]

After the finals of an international tournament award the bronze and silver medals, have those players then leave, then award the gold medals, then play the anthem of the gold medal team.

If I recall correctly, this is how the Olympic final is handled. Shake hands, receive your medals, and head off the ice so the winning team can celebrate.

Expecting a team to stick around to watch the other parade with the trophy is not reasonable.

 

[1Gold Standard]

I really don't care if the losing team remains on the ice for the anthem or not; however, it is currently protocol to do so and every losing team has endured the agony of defeat for those extra few minutes before departing the ice, thus a fine was in order.

Perhaps the IIHF should consider changing protocol, whereby the losing team collects their medal, they shake hands and then depart.

The anthem was (is) for me.

The suggestion that perhaps Team Canada is to blame for excessive trash talk is just silly though...

 

[Macman]

I don't see how the Russian coaching staff gets a free pass in all this. It's one thing for some young players to follow their captain off, but where were the coaches in all of this? It's pretty clear who was really running that team.

 

[Jonimaus]

Who cares about the anthems anyways.

 

[Davebo*]

If I recall correctly, this is how the Olympic final is handled. Shake hands, receive your medals, and head off the ice so the winning team can celebrate.

Expecting a team to stick around to watch the other parade with the trophy is not reasonable.

Except when the russians win?

Because every other participating country agrees and understands these protocalls, and agrees to them in the spirit of sportsmanship.

Something team russia needs a lesson in - clearly.

Big freakin' deal. Nobody cheated, nobody was injured, game play wasn't affected......just some questionable sportsmanship/breach of protocol,

Fine the Russian Federation and be done with it.

Looking foolish is it's own punishment I suppose.