WJC: Russia 2019 Roster Talk | Mod Note in OP

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I was at the game and watched it from the third row. I went to watch Pavel Shen who some scouts say another coming of Malkin?

Russia looked slow and disinterested and was clearly outskated by the Swedes. The third period was all Sweden. The start of the game shots were 11-0 Sweden as they totally skated circles around the Russians.

There were a few bright spots for the Russians as Morozov was their best skater.

Shen did not play.

What the what the.
 
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I did not watch the game, but based on the stats, it looked like an unimpressive performance against Sweden in the pre-tournament match. The Russian team only generated 18 shots, while giving up 36. That would suggest that Bragin decided not to adopt (U18) Coach Filatov's high pressure defensive scheme. It is still a week away from the official start, but that effort did nothing to raise hopes.
To much ado about a test. Those are tryouts for guys who aren't locks. Kravtsov at center is the biggest trial and error thing anyway.
 
Love me some podkolzin maybe coach learned a lesson in hardly play svech and then him making a nhl roster
McDavid wasn't really impressive as an underager in those tournaments, nor was Svechnikov. He was used quite accordigly. The fact that a year later those guys can be NHLers doesn't mean much. At this age they develop very quickly.

Podkolzin is a big fella, so he has a chance to survive among older players, but Ì don't expect him to break any records if he makes the team.
 
Kovalenko may remain due to his father.

How is Zhuravlyov doing?
What does his father have to do with it? He is a 18y.o. who is playing well in the KHL in his own right.

Zhuravlev will be a 3rd pairing kind of guy. Nothing too fancy from him so far.
 
Yeaaa, I don’t know.
But he always does. People just get upset because he doesn't take the guy they personally like, but every coach has an own concept. I do not always agree with Bragin, but I don't see him doing something completely off the charts.
 
Lines from yesterday’s practice:

Miftakhov, Kochetkov, Tarasov.
Samorukov - Romanov, Denisenko - Kravtsov - Kostin;
Alexeyev - Olshansky, Yaremchuk - Shen - Starkov;
Kalabushkin - Volkov, Muranov - Galimov - Slepets/Podkolzin;
Rubinchik - Valitov, Marchenko - Morozov - Shashkov;
Morozov - Zhuravlyov, Chekhovich - Khovanov - Kovalenko

Nikolayev is nursing an injury.
 
McDavid wasn't really impressive as an underager in those tournaments, nor was Svechnikov. He was used quite accordigly. The fact that a year later those guys can be NHLers doesn't mean much. At this age they develop very quickly.

Podkolzin is a big fella, so he has a chance to survive among older players, but Ì don't expect him to break any records if he makes the team.
McDavid was a tournament all-star at 17. In fact, he would have lit it up at 16, but after collecting 6 points in 3 pre tournament games he fired the puck after the whistle into an opponent’s net and lost the trust of the coach. His minutes got dramatically cut back after that. That entire incident still makes me mad to this day. :rant:

Sorry, had to vent about that. Anyways, I think Podkolzin is an awesome talent and the most like Pavel Bure of anyone I’ve seen come along since. I hope Bragin gives him some real playing time, but I have my doubts.
 
I was at the game and watched it from the third row. I went to watch Pavel Shen who some scouts say another coming of Malkin?

Russia looked slow and disinterested and was clearly outskated by the Swedes. The third period was all Sweden. The start of the game shots were 11-0 Sweden as they totally skated circles around the Russians.

There were a few bright spots for the Russians as Morozov was their best skater.

Shen did not play.

the Forward or D?
 
McDavid was a tournament all-star at 17. In fact, he would have lit it up at 16, but after collecting 6 points in 3 pre tournament games he fired the puck after the whistle into an opponent’s net and lost the trust of the coach. His minutes got dramatically cut back after that. That entire incident still makes me mad to this day. :rant:

Sorry, had to vent about that. Anyways, I think Podkolzin is an awesome talent and the most like Pavel Bure of anyone I’ve seen come along since. I hope Bragin gives him some real playing time, but I have my doubts.
I am not talking about meaningless nominations. It's about the actual play I whitnessed. And it's perfectly normal for an underager to look much more dull than his resume hype. In due time they reach their stardom.
 
I was at the game and watched it from the third row. I went to watch Pavel Shen who some scouts say another coming of Malkin?

Russia looked slow and disinterested and was clearly outskated by the Swedes. The third period was all Sweden. The start of the game shots were 11-0 Sweden as they totally skated circles around the Russians.

There were a few bright spots for the Russians as Morozov was their best skater.

Shen did not play.

Shen is an excellent player, but he in no way duplicates the explosive speed and stickhandling ability of a Malkin or Kuznetsov. For the last four or five years, Russia has lacked the explosive star capable of lighting an offensive fire on the ice. This year appears to be no exception. Probably the most gifted individual talent is Podkolzin, but at 17, don't expect him to make a positive contribution should he in fact survive the final cut.

If Russia fails to earn a medal for a second consecutive year, obviously Bragin's tenure will be put under scrutiny. I don't want to focus on negatives before the tournament even gets started, but Russia needs to find leaders who can ignite some fire on the team. The reminder of last year is bleak!
 
I am not talking about meaningless nominations. It's about the actual play I whitnessed. And it's perfectly normal for an underager to look much more dull than his resume hype. In due time they reach their stardom.
I witnessed him singlehandedly turn games around. He was the same dynamic game breaker in that tournament that he is today. I'm sorry you didn't actually watch those games. As for the term "meaningless nominations"? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
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I witnessed him singlehandedly turn games around. He was the same dynamic game breaker in that tournament that he is today. I'm sorry you didn't actually watch those games. As for the term "meaningless nominations"? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Okay, you are biased. That's okay.
 
Shen is an excellent player, but he in no way duplicates the explosive speed and stickhandling ability of a Malkin or Kuznetsov. For the last four or five years, Russia has lacked the explosive star capable of lighting an offensive fire on the ice. This year appears to be no exception. Probably the most gifted individual talent is Podkolzin, but at 17, don't expect him to make a positive contribution should he in fact survive the final cut.

If Russia fails to earn a medal for a second consecutive year, obviously Bragin's tenure will be put under scrutiny. I don't want to focus on negatives before the tournament even gets started, but Russia needs to find leaders who can ignite some fire on the team. The reminder of last year is bleak!
Ummm didn't Kirill Kaprizov lead the tournament in scoring in 2017?
 
I’m not. McDavid was named a tournament all-star. That makes YOU the biased one.
He was named tournament all star. That makes the ones who named him the biased ones.

Kovalchuk was named the Olympics MVP. That makes the ones who named him biased, because I watched him play and I know how he played.

Those nominations do not mean much.
 
Shen is an excellent player, but he in no way duplicates the explosive speed and stickhandling ability of a Malkin or Kuznetsov. For the last four or five years, Russia has lacked the explosive star capable of lighting an offensive fire on the ice. This year appears to be no exception. Probably the most gifted individual talent is Podkolzin, but at 17, don't expect him to make a positive contribution should he in fact survive the final cut.

If Russia fails to earn a medal for a second consecutive year, obviously Bragin's tenure will be put under scrutiny. I don't want to focus on negatives before the tournament even gets started, but Russia needs to find leaders who can ignite some fire on the team. The reminder of last year is bleak!
While I agree about Shen I have to say you are too negative about this roster in general. Kravtsov and Kostin might easily become tournament's standouts as well as Alexeev. As for leadership Shen is exactly the guy to lead it seems. He captained the team for a reason on numerous occasions. He seems to be that Bragin type of guy even if he isnot up there with talent.
 
Was at the game tonight and noticed Romanov didn’t play the 2nd and 3rd period. Anyone know what happened?
 

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