Run-off - Better Two-Way Season: Datsyuk '09 Or Gilmour '93?
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BraveCanadian
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Datsyuk has reached near-Fedorov level on the overrating scale here on the forums, but it’s Gilmour.
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Felidae
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Maybe overall he's overrated but in this instance it's quite close and don't fault anyone for choosing one or the other.
Datsyuk' 09
4th in points
5th in PPG.
23rd in goals
3rd in hart voting
Selke winner
Gilmour' 93
7th in points
9th in PPG
58th in goals
2nd in hart voting
Selke winner
Gilmour definitely had less support. His team was 16th in GA and he outproduced the next closest teammate by 53 points.
Datsyuk's team was 1st in GA and had 24 more points than the next closest teammate.
That said, while it's pretty much a wash offensively, my inkling based on what I've read around here is that most people that watched both would give Datsyuk the edge defensively. can't say myself as I didn't watch Gilmour, but I think their selke record paints a good picture.
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DitchMarner
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Gilmour was tied for seventh in points in '93 (he was eighth in the scoring race if you use goals as a tie-breaker) and was also out of the top 20 in goals. The scoring race competition was very strong among the top ten or so scorers that year (all-time good, really) and he didn't have much to work with up front.
Felidae
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Ah thanks, was looking at the wrong year. Edited my original post
Well, if anything that strengthens the argument for Datsyuk a bit. There's a significant goal gap (23rd vs 58th) that competition can't account for.
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I can certainly see the argument, but the following is also worth noting:
2008-2009 Detroit scored 295 goals.
1992-1993 Toronto scored 288 goals.
Datsyuk’s 32 goals ranked third on Detroit.
Gilmour’s 32 goals ranked second on Toronto.
Datsyuk contributed to 32.9% of Detroit’s offense.
Gilmour contributed to 44.1% of Toronto’s offense.
Detroit had 7 other players who totaled at least 50 points.
Toronto had 2 other players who totaled at least 50 points.
Datsyuk led his closest teammates by 24 and 26 points.
Gilmour led his closest teammates by 53 and 62 points.
I vote Gilmour myself and I certainly don’t begrudge anyone picking Datsyuk, but there’s a difference in those squads, to the point where Detroit managed to score more goals in less games in a league where the scoring environment was 25% lower.
This is a good versus battle either way.
Gurglesons
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Datsyuk finished higher in points per game when he was 36 on an even worse team. Datsyuk was a better player than Gilmour ever was and that’s no disrespect towards Gilmour or overrating Datsyuk.
