Speculation: Rumours, Speculation, and all Armchair-GM-ing needs! v.11

Anglesmith · Jun 23, 2015

One thing I like about Vermette is we can use him as a true faceoff/shutdown specialist. Also it's more depth in case we don't survive the preseason without injuries.

Johnny GODreau · Jun 23, 2015

Apparently the Rangers turned down 2 second rounders for Talbot.

Anglesmith said:
One thing I like about Vermette is we can use him as a true faceoff/shutdown specialist. Also it's more depth in case we don't survive the preseason without injuries.

Agreed on a 3 year (hypothetically) we could really groom Bennett properly.

SmellOfVictory said:
I'd be fine with the Flames considering him as a guy to sign to a one-year deal (to be traded at the deadline), but they've already got a pretty full forward corps. It's really only right wing and better quality that they need, and I don't think Vermette is better than Backlund or Stajan at this stage.

No one would sign with the Flames after that. :laugh:

Anglesmith · Jun 23, 2015

Johnny GODreau said:
Apparently the Rangers turned down 2 second rounders for Talbot.

Lol. Ok, Sather.

Johnny Hoxville · Jun 23, 2015

Anglesmith said:
Lol. Ok, Sather.

I really hope that offer was not from us..

InfinityIggy · Jun 23, 2015

Johnny Hoxville said:
I really hope that offer was not from us..

How many teams initially in the running have multiple 2nd rounders? There is a good chance it was us. (if true)

Anglesmith · Jun 23, 2015

Another UFA worth considering: Jan Hejda. Again, depends on what other teams are willing to offer.

CraigsList · Jun 23, 2015

InfinityIggy said:
How many teams initially in the running have multiple 2nd rounders? There is a good chance it was us. (if true)

My guess is Edmonton. Their 2nd and Montreal's 2nd. I don't see Treliving offering 2 2nds.

Johnny GODreau · Jun 23, 2015

I think it was Buffalo. And I think Slats really wants a first, ie) 16th overall(EDM) or 21st overall(BUF).

Calculon · Jun 23, 2015

Vermette allegedly wants 5M+. He might even get that after the finals he had plus the weak UFA crop.

Johnny GODreau said:
Apparently the Rangers turned down 2 second rounders for Talbot.

According to Dreger, whose updates on the Talbot sweepstakes seem to have been written by Sather himself.

Talbot will be a UFA in a year; if the Rangers don't trade him, he'll walk guaranteed. And given the number of goalies available, if Sather manages to do better than two seconds, well, maybe he shouldn't retire anytime soon.

Anglesmith · Jun 23, 2015

I don't think anyone should pay that for Talbot. But we'll see. Any trades for goalies just lessen the number of teams interested in Ramo.

Anglesmith · Jun 23, 2015

Calculon said:
Vermette allegedly wants 5M+. He might even get after the finals he had plus the weak UFA crop.

I think he'll have to settle for less, but who knows? We could theoretically do that on a short term.

Ace Rimmer · Jun 23, 2015

Wonder if that (goalie shortage) allows us to trade Ramo's rights before July 1?

Johnny GODreau · Jun 23, 2015

Calculon said:
Vermette allegedly wants 5M+. He might even get after the finals he had plus the weak UFA crop.

According to Dreger, who's updates on the Talbot sweepstakes seem to have been written by Sather himself.

Talbot will be a UFA in a year; if the Rangers don't trade him, he'll walk guaranteed. And given the number of goalies available, if Sather manages to do better than two seconds, well, maybe he shouldn't retire anytime soon.

Not terribly expensive. I'd offer him a 3 year deal 18m 6m AAV ( 7.5m/7.5m/3.0m)

Anglesmith said:
I don't think anyone should pay that for Talbot. But we'll see. Any trades for goalies just lessen the number of teams interested in Ramo.

I hope the oil pay with their first. But I am a mean person.

Anglesmith · Jun 23, 2015

One thing we have going for us this season is that we can offer the chance to play for a playoff team on the upswing. Maybe that means we can offer a little less for UFAs than Buffalo or Arizona.

Ace Rimmer · Jun 23, 2015

If we're considering Vermette at $5m+ (which would be longish term) I'd rather kick tires on Phil the Thrill with the Leafs retaining about $1.5 million salary.

CraigsList · Jun 23, 2015

Stewie Griffin said:
If we're considering Vermette at $5m+ (which would be longish term) I'd rather kick tires on Phil the Thrill with the Leafs retaining about $1.5 million salary.

I don't see the Leafs retaining salary. 1.5m retained for 7 years is 10.5m. I don't see the Leafs doing that.

slappipappi · Jun 23, 2015

Stewie Griffin said:
Wonder if that (goalie shortage) allows us to trade Ramo's rights before July 1?

There is an excess of goalies on the market.

And since teams can talk to palyers about a week? before the UFA period, no need to trade for players riights anymore. Except, perhaps, exceptional UFA's, of which there are none.

FLAMES666 · Jun 23, 2015

What does everyone think of signing a guy like Eric Fehr? He could probably be had for relativity cheap. Big buy, shoots right....

FlamesFan18 · Jun 23, 2015

FLAMES666 said:
What does everyone think of signing a guy like Eric Fehr? He could probably be had for relativity cheap. Big buy, shoots right....

All for it at the right price

CraigsList · Jun 23, 2015

FLAMES666 said:
What does everyone think of signing a guy like Eric Fehr? He could probably be had for relativity cheap. Big buy, shoots right....

We already have enough bottom 6 forwards, so I'd probably pass.

Ace Rimmer · Jun 23, 2015

slappipappi said:
There is an excess of goalies on the market.

And since teams can talk to palyers about a week? before the UFA period, no need to trade for players riights anymore. Except, perhaps, exceptional UFA's, of which there are none.

Not exactly an excess of quality though. Maybe I have the homer glasses on but Ramo is likely behind Dubnyk on the demand side, not sure who else would be coveted more.

And talking to a player only ups the ante in the sense you know you can offer a player something he'll accept prior to July 1, so acquire his rights so nobody else scoops him up.

ginner classic · Jun 23, 2015

Stewie Griffin said:
Not exactly an excess of quality though. Maybe I have the homer glasses on but Ramo is likely behind Dubnyk on the demand side, not sure who else would be coveted more.

And talking to a player only ups the ante in the sense you know you can offer a player something he'll accept prior to July 1, so acquire his rights so nobody else scoops him up.

IMO Ramo is behind:

Talbot
Lehner
Lack
Raanta
Dubnyk (UFA)
Niemi (UFA)
Neuvirth (UFA)

GAMO1992 · Jun 23, 2015

Stewie Griffin said:
If we're considering Vermette at $5m+ (which would be longish term) I'd rather kick tires on Phil the Thrill with the Leafs retaining about $1.5 million salary.

Can we please just all come to the agreement that Phil "Cookie Monster" Kessel is NOT, I repeat NOT, a good fit for us?
Leafs reportedly want at least a 1st, 2nd, roster player and a B+ prospect, none of which we can afford to give up right now.
And no way the Leafs retain any salary, by doing that you only increase the price it takes to acquire him.

And I'd pass on Vermette too. He's likely one of the premier FA's going to FA. He's going to be getting paid, especially since he just won his cup.

I'd be down to trying for Troy Brouwer from the Caps. Can play a middle 6 role, can bang, and can score some goals.

Taranis · Jun 23, 2015

Phil Kessel being traded to the Flames and working with Hartley could be a reality tv show.

GAMO1992 · Jun 23, 2015

Taranis said:
Phil Kessel being traded to the Flames and working with Hartley could be a reality tv show.

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