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[48g90a138pts]

Do not get the love in with Gusev. If he plays in the nhl he will break some hearts

ignore the post below your last one

 

[TheNumber4]

Holland needs to put the cherry on top of this decent offseason by somehow improving our D corps. I know we got a lot of up and comers and need the spots. But lets not forget, Matt Benning sucks. Klef and Lars don't have the offensive chops to be true #1s. Russell, while a warrior, doesn't bring nearly enough. Seks is gone. By all accounts this is one bad D corps like usual. And I don't think injecting some rookies into this equation fixes anything, it'll hurt them and hurt the team.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Holland needs to put the cherry on top of this decent offseason by somehow improving our D corps. I know we got a lot of up and comers and need the spots. But lets not forget, Matt Benning sucks. Klef and Lars don't have the offensive chops to be true #1s. Russell, while a warrior, doesn't bring nearly enough. Seks is gone. By all accounts this is one bad D corps like usual. And I don't think injecting some rookies into this equation fixes anything, it'll hurt them and hurt the team.

Wrong.

Maybe your eyes are the things that suck.

 

[duul]

Wrong.

Maybe your eyes are the things that suck.

Sorry Matty, you're not an NHLer.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Sorry Matty, you're not an NHLer.

Except everything points to him being a very capable #6.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

I feel like we have one more move to make.

Maroon or Brassard.

Do we have capspace?

 

[North]

I feel like we have one more move to make.

Maroon or Brassard.

Do we have capspace?

I believe any contract we sign would have to be about a million at most in order to keep the 1.5 cushion that Holland wants.

 

[nabob]

Holland needs to put the cherry on top of this decent offseason by somehow improving our D corps. I know we got a lot of up and comers and need the spots. But lets not forget, Matt Benning sucks. Klef and Lars don't have the offensive chops to be true #1s. Russell, while a warrior, doesn't bring nearly enough. Seks is gone. By all accounts this is one bad D corps like usual. And I don't think injecting some rookies into this equation fixes anything, it'll hurt them and hurt the team.

Cap space...

Or are you suggesting we package Klefbom/Larsson with picks or prospects for an upgrade that doesn’t cost any more than they do against the cap?

 

[SK13]

I believe any contract we sign would have to be about a million at most in order to keep the 1.5 cushion that Holland wants.

More like 2.5M or so to keep that 1.5M cap flexibility.

Few things about the capfriendly number. It's not taking into account the inevitable Manning burial. So the Oilers current cap number after that is 2.9M or so w/ Jones in the NHL and Manning in the AHL. Past that any signing they make will have to come at the expense of someone else (capfriendly is currently calculating their number based on a full 23 man roster). At least one of Cave, Jurco, Nygard or Brodziak will have to find themselves in the AHL and if the Oilers want: Two of them. Many teams carry 22 players instead of 23.

If it's Nygard for example, the Oilers would have nearly 4M in cap space.

 

[Joey Moss]

Nashville signs Sissons 7 years... Poile loves those long term gamble contracts with lower cap.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Nashville signs Sissons 7 years... Poile loves those long term gamble contracts with lower cap.

You would think he would try to get a lower cap hit for that term, but I can see why Nashville is investing in him.

 

[joestevens29]

I'm torn on these deals. What does it say about the player?

Is he smart because he is taking the sure thing?

or

Is he giving up on his career and fine with being what he is today?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I'm torn on these deals. What does it say about the player?

Is he smart because he is taking the sure thing?

or

Is he giving up on his career and fine with being what he is today?

Sissons, he might view this the high point. He's 25, coming off 15 goals, he might develop further, but he also might be a 10-25 guy who's cashing in on what could be a career high.

 

[lakai17]

You can see that he's fantastic in open ice, but he doesn't have much success when there are guys right on him. KHL has big rinks and the KHL defence makes AHL defence look good. Panarin can make plays in a phone booth, I don't see anything like that with Gusev, he's physically weak compared to Panarin or Kucherov. He also uses a long stick, which is easier to get away with in the KHL. His shot release is this kind of wide sweep around the side of his body. He won't have much space to use that.

Obviously he'd still be a great passer and transition player. But that makes him closer to Marcus Johansson than Artemi Panarin. The Oilers could nonetheless benefit from that kind of player, I'd support getting him if it just costs a 2nd rounder + B prospect or something like that.

He'd be lethal on two on one's with McDavid, boost the pp, great to have in overtime.

 

[lakai17]

I'm torn on these deals. What does it say about the player?

Is he smart because he is taking the sure thing?

or

Is he giving up on his career and fine with being what he is today?

Smart taking that secure money. Say if he did improve a little more, it's not like he'd be getting that much more.

Good by Poile as well knowing he's a good depth forward that can also be an impact player when needed.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I feel like we have one more move to make.

Maroon or Brassard.

Do we have capspace?

Brassard plz.

Yes, we do. Bury Manning and Brodziak and we have a shade under 4.

 

[dem]

I'm torn on these deals. What does it say about the player?

Is he smart because he is taking the sure thing?

or

Is he giving up on his career and fine with being what he is today?

He just made 20 million dollars and is set for the rest of his life. He's in a great situation.
It doesn't get much better for Colton Sissons..


I'd start questioning if it was a player like Laine taking a long term 6 million dollar cap hit... because he is capable of getting so much more.

 

[TheNumber4]

Wrong.

Maybe your eyes are the things that suck.

Nah. He sucks.

 

[TheNumber4]

Cap space...

Or are you suggesting we package Klefbom/Larsson with picks or prospects for an upgrade that doesn’t cost any more than they do against the cap?

Don’t know how Holland will get there. And none of us knew how’d he get Lucic outta here. Just saying the D corps needs to be upgrades as usual. Maybe one of our defenseman plus plus to get that forward. Maybe a forward plus plus to get there. Can’t say cap unless you know the pieces going out and who’s coming in. There are affordable defenseman that could help this D corps.

 

[780il]

I'd take Sheahan over Brassard.

Brassard at this point is washed and it's possible he's not an NHL calibre player anymore. With Sheahan we know we at minimum are getting a defensively reliable 4c.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I wonder if the Oilers circle back to Patty. There was a tweet from Friedman or Shannon (I think) who said they were sniffing around on July 1st, which coincides with Treliving or Holland or whoever it was saying they started Lucic-Neal talks at the end of June.

 

[belair]

I'd take Sheahan over Brassard.

Brassard at this point is washed and it's possible he's not an NHL calibre player anymore. With Sheahan we know we at minimum are getting a defensively reliable 4c.

Sheahan also had very good PK results last season and produced at the same rate Brassard did. Brassard doesn't PK at all, but saw regular PP time.

Brassard showed on three teams this past season that he struggles in that third line role.

 

[Shathar]

Though Gusev is intriguing, would u guys really give up solid assets for him (protected 1sts, etc)? There is so much that can go wrong with that player... I don't think I would.

 

[The Nuge]

I'd take Sheahan over Brassard.

Brassard at this point is washed and it's possible he's not an NHL calibre player anymore. With Sheahan we know we at minimum are getting a defensively reliable 4c.

I feel like you could maybe get Sheahan for a steal at this point. If you you could go like 3-4 years at 1.5-2.0, you’ve got a contract that really won’t hurt you long term

Though Gusev is intriguing, would u guys really give up solid assets for him (protected 1sts, etc)? There is so much that can go wrong with that player... I don't think I would.

The only way I’m giving up at first is if there are conditions on the pick. I’d give up a 2nd, with the condition that it goes to a 1st if he puts up 60+ points and signs an extension. If both of those happen, a 1st isn’t an unreasonable price

 

[MilesNewton]

Brassard plz.

Yes, we do. Bury Manning and Brodziak and we have a shade under 4.

I just don't see that happening. If he gets zero interest maybe but nothing against Edmonton but I can't see him wanting to play there.