Rumor: Rumors & Trade Proposals Thread | Post Mortem '23-24 Season: Who Should Stay, Who Should Go & Who Should We Bring In?

[McShogun99]

I wouldn’t make to many changes to the team. You want to keep the momentum going.

Get a top 6 RW, a partner for Nurse, try to keep the 3rd line together and a reliable 1B goalie.

RNH-Mcdavid-Hyman
Holloway-Draisaitl-xxx
Janmark-Rico-Brown
Kane-McLeod-xxx

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-xxx
Broberg-Ceci

Skinner
xxx

 

[CycloneSweep]

I wouldn’t make to many changes to the team. You want to keep the momentum going.

Get a top 6 RW, a partner for Nurse, try to keep the 3rd line together and a reliable 1B goalie.

RNH-Mcdavid-Hyman
Holloway-Draisaitl-xxx
Janmark-Rico-Brown
Kane-McLeod-xxx

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-xxx
Broberg-Ceci

Skinner
xxx

Losing Kulak but keeping Ceci is a wild scenario.

 

[McShogun99]

Losing Kulak but keeping Ceci is a wild scenario.

I’m currently mad at Kulak for his play on the winning goal plus it lets Broberg play his natural side.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I’m currently mad at Kulak for his play on the winning goal plus it lets Broberg play his natural side.

Kulak and Broberg are both better on their off side than Ceci is. Toss Ceci, Kulak can play on his right.

 

[Ninety7]

I want it so badly to be nurse.

But realistically it’ll be Ceci, maybe Campbell, Ryan, maybe McLeod, maybe foegele, Perry

 

[Probie]

if Quenneville gets re instated, the oil should go after him, make your current coach an assistant if hed take it.

Rasmus Anderson should be a significant target,(i know hell be costly) ditto for kostim. You need a couple bigger guys upfront, klim is a start.

Out: Foegele, Carrick, Gagner, Perry, ceci,,cambell, ryan, kane-I like him but hes always hurt and now has a serious injury that you never fully recover from.

 

[Oilhawks]

With draft and free agency around the corner
Anyone know who we’re looking at for gm ?
Is Jackson taking over ?

I think Jackson handles free agency and the draft and they hire someone closer to the start of the season. It’s simply too short of a turn around

 

[Patch101]

Why wouldn't he make it through? Teams only keep 2 goalies, and he has no NHL experience. Most teams have a goalie prospect they like as much as we like Rodrigue.

I wouldn't take that chance. I don't think there is a ton of difference between Rod and Pickard. Top 10 sav% in the ahl. At a perfect age for the nhl as a goalie backup.

I'm taking a chance with Rod if his pre-season is good. Now that Skinner is more established.
I would not have at the start of this season.

 

[Oilhawks]

I've heard that too. And unfortunately, that essentially means we can kiss our depth goodbye.

By the time the cap catches up, both will be 30+ years old. Guess the individual records will be the memories I'll need to cherish. On pace for extremely disappointing.

Every team has to manage some ugliness on the cap. If this one can’t, might as well relocate and move on.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I think Jackson handles free agency and the draft and they hire someone closer to the start of the season. It’s simply too short of a turn around

That’s unfortunate though. Most important offseason in McDavids career and we won’t have a GM for the entire thing?

 

[CookiesAndMilk]

First to go has to be Ryan "Cardio Boy" McLeod.

 

[Oilers88]

I wouldn’t make to many changes to the team. You want to keep the momentum going.

Get a top 6 RW, a partner for Nurse, try to keep the 3rd line together and a reliable 1B goalie.

RNH-Mcdavid-Hyman
Holloway-Draisaitl-xxx
Janmark-Rico-Brown
Kane-McLeod-xxx

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-xxx
Broberg-Ceci

Skinner
xxx

For the most part I agree, but I think the money might be tight to do all that. If Kane is on your fourth line, that 5.125 million might be better used on a RW for Drai. I also probably keep Kulak over Ceci.

 

[VainGretzky]

The current talk is Draisaitl, McDavid and Bouchard will come in at around 40mill

And the talk was McDavid's contract was going to be 14 million minimum on his 2nd contract , do you think these agents are going to give the low number to insiders

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Top 4RD upgrade two-way structured defender with puck moving abilities
2W scorer with mid-range finishing ability
Bottom six functional toughness aka Kostin type player

 

[FlameChampion]

I hope after this run, McDavid, Draisaitl and Bouchard all take a little bit less on their future deals to build a better team. Because they are going to need more help especially as they get older. I don’t blame them if they don’t though.

It will be interesting to see what Jackson does. But based on playoff success and such a short turnaround due to bogus NHL scheduling, I don’t think we will see much in terms of big moves. I do think there are some bigger moves that should be considered and at least explored. I really hope we can see him get creative and find a way to move out some contracts. The team really needs to find a way to create some more cap space.

I really hope we can move Campbell without a buy out. I just hate dead cap. But the asset cost to move him probably isn’t that likely.

I think they really need to consider moving Nurse. Once again I think it’s unlikely and difficult but I think it needs to be explored.

Kane is probably the last one but is quite a bit below the other two. I think this one I would leave more on the medical staff’s opinion. It just doesn’t feel like he fits anywhere on this team. Doesn’t feel like he fits in the top 6 and doesn’t want to play in the bottom 6. How much is injury related though? For a guy who never really felt productive he was actually fairly productive though in the regular season. He is a bit of a unicorn though when hes on. If the medical/organization think he will bounce back after healing I guess that’s good. It just feels like hes going to drop off a cliff from the outside looking in though.

 

[Hemsky4pm2]

Give Broberg a full season at RD with Nurse. I would be ok bringing back Ceci and Kulak as a bottom pair, albeit a pricey one. That would mean Vinny gone. Someone will overpay him. Dump McLeod anywhere. Try to keep Foegele if the $ is reasonable. Prioritize Henrique, Janmark and Brown.

 

[FlameChampion]

I am interested to see what Jackson does with the defense. I suspect that JJ/KK/PC have already discussed this and will continue to discuss it.

I think they should build around Bouchard, Ekholm and Broberg.

They really need a better middle pair though.

I think there combinations of Broberg, Kulak, Ceci and VD work as a third pairing. But I think they need to bring in a D upgrade especially since Nurse is inadequate. This team just can’t keep playing Ceci or VD higher in the lineup. I also don’t know if Nurse-Broberg really works because Nurse needs so much babysitting.

But since we have so little turn around due to NHL scheduling, I wouldn’t be surprised if we just roll with:

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Broberg
Kulak - Ceci

Boring.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Good news is they've got enough cap space to keep the band together. However there are a few questions that need to be asked.


RD on the 2nd and 3rd pairings. Nurse needs a speedy partner, and Kulak and Broberg have both looked good there. So are you happy giving that experiment a season to play out, or do you target someone like Carrier or Brodie, who are true RD?
3rd pairing: Ceci or Vinny? Or go with Kulak-Broberg and a true 2nd pairing RHD acquired?

Imo the correct move is trading Ceci at the draft and re-signing Vinny to a contract that's around 2/per. Keep Broberg with Nurse.


Goalie? Campbell's likely bought out, but do you ride it back with Pickard at around 1mil, or do they need a more proven option pushing Skinner?


Re-signing the 3rd line or something similar should be a must. I don't think Janmark and Brown should be difficult. I really want to Henrique, as I love his versatility; though I can see him being in demand come July. He is coming off a fairly fat contract, so maybe he's willing to take a little less to try and win? Though I'd have time for Wennberg as a Plan B. Faska or Sturm could also be trade targets as a Plan C.

I'd also love some top 6 help. Nothing to expensive, I'd prefer this to be a bargain bin, end of summer, 1 year prove-it deal. Think like Tatar of this past offseason. This is just so Holloway (or Lavoie) needs to earn his way into the top 9, even if I do think he will be a McWinger sooner rather than later.


Imo the correct starting point is this...

That leaves you 4mil to play with for the top 6, and/or to upgrade in net/on defence.
(1 mil to any depth defenceman, I just went with Stecher for convenience)

Not sure how they'd ever afford to acquire him, but Buchnevich at 50% would be the ultimate fit to round off that group.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

if Quenneville gets re instated, the oil should go after him, make your current coach an assistant if hed take it.

Rasmus Anderson should be a significant target,(i know hell be costly) ditto for kostim. You need a couple bigger guys upfront, klim is a start.

Out: Foegele, Carrick, Gagner, Perry, ceci,,cambell, ryan, kane-I like him but hes always hurt and now has a serious injury that you never fully recover from.

Let me get this straight. You think Knoblauch of all people is the issue?

 

[Fishy McScales]

Let me get this straight. You think Knoblauch of all people is the issue?

And apparently enough of an issue to replace him with a persona non grata to boot.

 

[Jumptheshark]

we are in a tough position in trying to upgrade some positions. The 3.555 carry over bonus hurts. I wonder if the caps take Kane for picks? I am looking to free up money.

We know we are buying out Campbell.

Cap Hit Calculations​

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( EDM)
2024-25	$5,400,000	$5,000,000	$0	$1,500,000	$1,500,000	$3,900,000	$1,100,000
2025-26	$4,200,000	$5,000,000	$0	$1,500,000	$1,500,000	$2,700,000	$2,300,000
2026-27	$3,900,000	$5,000,000	$0	$1,500,000	$1,500,000	$2,400,000	$2,600,000
2027-28	$0	$0	$0	$1,500,000	$1,500,000	-$1,500,000	$1,500,000
2028-29	$0	$0	$0	$1,500,000	$1,500,000	-$1,500,000	$1,500,000
2029-30	$0	$0	$0	$1,500,000	$1,500,000	-$1,500,000	$1,500,000
TOTAL	$13,500,000	$15,000,000	$0	$9,000,000	$9,000,000	$4,500,000	$10,500,000

We have both Leon and Bouchard signed only for one more year and McDavid for 2. We need to win next year

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

LTIRetire Campbell for mental health reasons. The 5 million in dead cap is beyond crippling and so is the dead cap if we buy him out.

I wonder if tanev would be open to taking a discount to play here. Has signed with Vancouver and Calgary for cheap in the past. Pesce would be the dream target but would obviously be more pricey with no western Canada connection. Other RHD options are demelo and carrier. Do not get Sean walker, bad player who is was actually worse than Ceci prior to this breakout season and basically solo lost Colorado their series vs Dallas. Nurse contract is untraceable unfortunately so we're stuck with trying to make it work with him. The cope is that he did look much better with broberg and was probably playing injured this run. Trade away Ceci and kulak for whatever you can get and get a true top 4 RHD and round out the bottom pair/7d with budget options (Broberg and can include vd if he takes under 2 mil).

For forwards go for guys who can play top 6 with a history of taking discounts to go cup hunting. Pat Kane, duchene, duclair etx. then throw in some budget guys with upside. Can include brown and janmark if they're willing to stay for under a mil (brown still basically owes us back pay for the 4 million this season anyway lol).

 

[Paralyzer]

Well, I hope we hear rumors, trades or signings soon, as I want to move on from yesterday's game.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Absolutely unacceptable to have the Finals end this close to the draft/free agency.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I hope after this run, McDavid, Draisaitl and Bouchard all take a little bit less on their future deals to build a better team. Because they are going to need more help especially as they get older. I don’t blame them if they don’t though.

It will be interesting to see what Jackson does. But based on playoff success and such a short turnaround due to bogus NHL scheduling, I don’t think we will see much in terms of big moves. I do think there are some bigger moves that should be considered and at least explored. I really hope we can see him get creative and find a way to move out some contracts. The team really needs to find a way to create some more cap space.

I really hope we can move Campbell without a buy out. I just hate dead cap. But the asset cost to move him probably isn’t that likely.

I think they really need to consider moving Nurse. Once again I think it’s unlikely and difficult but I think it needs to be explored.

Kane is probably the last one but is quite a bit below the other two. I think this one I would leave more on the medical staff’s opinion. It just doesn’t feel like he fits anywhere on this team. Doesn’t feel like he fits in the top 6 and doesn’t want to play in the bottom 6. How much is injury related though? For a guy who never really felt productive he was actually fairly productive though in the regular season. He is a bit of a unicorn though when hes on. If the medical/organization think he will bounce back after healing I guess that’s good. It just feels like hes going to drop off a cliff from the outside looking in though.

Nurse isn't waiving his NMC.