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I'd say no. Trouba is worse than Nurse.The Rangers.
I'd say no. Trouba is worse than Nurse.The Rangers.
Due to poor GM'ingSo more dead cap space.
It is certainly a theme with this bunch. They love their dead cap space.
If Crosby and Malkin had the same support that Connor and Leon do, they also could have made the cup finals this year.To be fair, in 8 years McDavid will be close to Crosby's age. How has Crosby and the Pens looked in the last couple of years?
Dear god no.
Give us Zadorov 7Mx8 next please Canucks
Yea. The new GM is essentially going to have to decide between Nurse or Bouchard. You cant have both making close to 18M. Trading Nurse with retention and buying out Campbell is way too much dead cap for a team that wants to win now (Neal, Brown's bonus, Perry's bonus). Leon's line needs a Bouchard to outlet the puck. Nurse is not that guy.Holland left the next guy with some extremely hard decisions to make.
Since Holland created a buyout proof deal, along with massive overpay and NMC for Nurse's contract, he probably left the biggest pile of garbage that any Oilers GM has left behind, plus Campbell.
The cost to replace is almost a no-brainer for both these guys. Broberg + a solid 4-5M RHD is probably better than Nurse + Broberg on his off side. a 5M D + Nurse's 2.3M retained is 2M cheaper than Nurse's contract. That's 2M to improve the team still.
Campbell, replacement is probably a league minimum backup goalie. You save 3.9M buying Campbell out. That's 3M extra to improve the team.
This needs to end with the current GM's decisions, but sadly, for now it has to continue because of the last GM's decisions. We could improve our cap situation by $5M with zero loss to performance if we could trade Nurse with 25% retained and buyout Campbell. Gotta find that RHD of course, so we better get a GM that can make moves like Zito did for Florida.
JacksonWas Knob a hire by Holland or Jackson?
Good point also like to add if we end with two or 3 cups who GAF about the contracts 6 years from nowIf Crosby and Malkin had the same support that Connor and Leon do, they also could have made the cup finals this year.
Ha I just posted almost the same thingIf McDrai fall off a cliff in years 4-8 I wouldn't even mind. Just extract the best Win NOW hockey we can and whatever happens, happens.
McDavid had nothing to do with it.Jackson and McDavid
One in 5 under Holland and he took over a team that was bottom 10 in the league two years in a row, a cap strapped bottom 10 team no less.He doesn't deserve ALL the slander he's getting, but one cup finals appearance in 9 years of McDavid is still unacceptable. Bad deals aside (AA, Campbell, Nurse) he made some really good moves; however, it's what he didn't do time and time again. He was too scared to make any big TDL/summer and make this team over the top. Yes, we are perennial contenders, but we should've been slam dunk favourites and been able to blow teams out of the water. We are right on the cusp, but we're not good enough to be locks and, to me, that's unacceptable. Holland pandered to the team sentiment as well as his own inability to take a risk and we should've walked away with better pieces and each of the last few TDLs (in terms of fwds).
The main people criticizing Holland are the people that hated the hire from day one.One in 5 under Holland and he took over a team that was bottom 10 in the league two years in a row.
Holland was far from perfect and certainly deserves some criticism but the amount of slander he receives from some on this board is unwarranted. A lot of his guys played big roles in their Cup run this season and even his drafted guys are starting to look better in time.
Jackson. I’ll find the article where one of Knoblauch’s previous employers was called by Jackson asking if he thought he was ready for the nhl.Was Knob a hire by Holland or Jackson?
I doubt anyone was lining up for Campbell. A fair offer would have been 4 million x3.I have said this a few times now but it really is a mystery to me how Holland and company thought that Campbell was a worthwhile long term $5M risk.
The Rangers say "How many 1st round picks are you adding?"Nurse for Trouba with us retaining 1.25 million. Who says no?
Unfortunately yesThe Rangers say "How many 1st round picks are you adding?"
Yeah. I mean he had misses, but when he hit he HIT. I agree with this completely. Like I said, I think his faults/failure is more on what he didn't end up doing rather than the bad deals he made.One in 5 under Holland and he took over a team that was bottom 10 in the league two years in a row, a cap strapped bottom 10 team no less.
Holland was far from perfect and certainly deserves some criticism but the amount of slander he receives from some on this board is unwarranted. A lot of his guys played big roles in their Cup run this season and even his drafted guys are starting to look better in time.
If they had the same support as the Oilers, they'd make the playoffs and get eliminated in the first round like 4 of their last 6 yearsIf Crosby and Malkin had the same support that Connor and Leon do, they also could have made the cup finals this year.
You can get away with a weak bottom pairing if your top 4 is excellent and stays injury free. If Ekblad or Montour went down, Florida would have been in a world of trouble. Our problem was we had a great top pairing and then two third pairings. I think we'll be surprised during free agency with some veterans willing to sign 1 year deals with us for a bargain.We just saw former Oiler great, Alex Petrovic, play that role in the playoffs. Finding third pairing guys with no offensive value isn't all that tough.
Hopefully we're at a point where good veterans will take cheap one year deals here for a chance at the Cup too.
Crosby would still be a 1C on most teams. It's the rest of the Penguins that have been bad.To be fair, in 8 years McDavid will be close to Crosby's age. How has Crosby and the Pens looked in the last couple of years?
Vancouver is going to be in a lot of trouble if they think they can simply run it back and things will go the same if not better.Dear god no.
Trouba is worse than Nurse. So if we add anything, we’d be fleeced.Unfortunately yes
Do you not realize how good Crosby still is?If they had the same support as the Oilers, they'd make the playoffs and get eliminated in the first round like 4 of their last 6 years
Crosby was great this past season. Did you watch any of his games?To be fair, in 8 years McDavid will be close to Crosby's age. How has Crosby and the Pens looked in the last couple of years?
Saying goodbye to Draisaitl is saying goodbye to McDavid. Saying goodbye to those two is saying goodbye to respectability and hello to decade of darkness 2.0.Where do you get that from?
Obviously you're upset over the Leafs lack of success in the playoffs. Cheer up buddy. Anything is possible.His home at CP
I heard that he wasn't going to meet with them together, where did you get that from?Sounds like Jackson would like to talk to both McDrai together regarding contracts. Seems like he wants them taking the same deal?
Do you not realize how good Crosby still is?
In the games against the Oilers. Didn't look that good.Crosby was great this past season. Did you watch any of his games?
I heard that he wasn't going to meet with them together, where did you get that from?
But where are you getting the idea that Leon is gone? I mean all signs are pointing to the opposite. Unless you think specs questions yesterday and Leon’s refusal to commit to them is the sign. Personally I’m more convinced he is staying now than I was before the playoffs startedSaying goodbye to Draisaitl is saying goodbye to McDavid. Saying goodbye to those two is saying goodbye to respectability and hello to decade of darkness 2.0.
I'm not going to watch that bullshit again.
Obviously you're upset over the Leafs lack of success in the playoffs. Cheer up buddy. Anything is possible.