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TheNumber4

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Fowler gone for a 2nd at $4M?

I don’t know if there’s a defenceman in the League that fits the definition of “meh” better. Like he’s always been fine, but just meh, and now he’s regressed from that. He has 2 years left too.

Off the rumor list now and can go babysit Brobitch.
 
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The Nuge

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Risto is the same age as Nurse, there is no upside, they are the players they are and he's not playing better hockey than Brett Kulak.

I’m well aware how old they are. Despite his flaws, Risto has played at a much higher level than Kulak. Risto is basically Nurse lite

I wonder if it's possible to snag Bowen Byram out of Buffalo with the trade rumours surrounding him. Very intriguing young player with tons of talent who dominated against us back in the 2022 playoffs. His defensive metrics have been pretty bad the past 2 years but he's still a productive 23 year old defenseman (hovers at around half a point per game, mostly at even strength) at a reasonable cap hit and put up solid defensive numbers in Colorado as recently as 2022, might be fixable with some Paul Coffey magic.


I would love either. Unlikely they're available though given Anaheim and Montreal's current rebuild status.

I can’t see why Buffalo would move him, but he’d be a complete no brainer, and the kind of guy that would be worth overpaying for
 
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I’m well aware how old they are. Despite his flaws, Risto has played at a much higher level than Kulak. Risto is basically Nurse lite



I can’t see why Buffalo would move him, but he’d be a complete no brainer, and the kind of guy that would be worth overpaying for
Was this sarcasm? It’s hard to tell these days.

In cast it isn’t Risto is not on Buffalo anymore.
 

Mr Positive

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I don’t really see how a non playoff team spending draft picks to add an old d-man is a good risk. He has a 4 team trade list clause, flipping him could be difficult.
I just mean good risk in that Fowler is a good bet to be better than he looked than in Anaheim. We do not know how much better. I'd say that with both Fabbro and Fowler, these are players that could have solved our #4 spot problem.

As for the Blues, they are a bubble team, so it's an admirable move in that they are going for it.

Maybe it wouldn't be the right move for us since we are likely cruising into the playoffs so delaying a move can work out
 

Mr Positive

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I’m well aware how old they are. Despite his flaws, Risto has played at a much higher level than Kulak. Risto is basically Nurse lite



I can’t see why Buffalo would move him, but he’d be a complete no brainer, and the kind of guy that would be worth overpaying for
Risto would definitely be in the project category like Fabbro and Fowler. I'd say Risto is the weakest choice of those three, although at least he's right shot, unlike Fowler.
 

The Nuge

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Was this sarcasm? It’s hard to tell these days.

In case it isn’t Risto is not on Buffalo anymore.

No just poor reading on your part. The first post clearly says Risto, and the second post clearly says Byram.

Risto would definitely be in the project category like Fabbro and Fowler. I'd say Risto is the weakest choice of those three, although at least he's right shot, unlike Fowler.

For sure he is, but I’m also pretty confident based on what Coffey’s managed to do with much less skilled dmen. But again, that’s only if Philly would retain 50%, where he’s only paid like a 5/6 for the next 2.5 years
 
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No just poor reading on your part. The first post clearly says Risto, and the second post clearly says Byram.



For sure he is, but I’m also pretty confident based on what Coffey’s managed to do with much less skilled dmen. But again, that’s only if Philly would retain 50%, where he’s only paid like a 5/6 for the next 2.5 years
Yup I missed the Byram part because I can’t see the post you responded to. Not sure why you needed to be this way about it because I was genuinely asking.
 

McDNicks17

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It's pretty well documented that Nurse works best with guys that can defend the blue line, recover dump-ins and move pucks up ice.

Targeting a guy in Risto that's been amongst the worst in the entire league at those things his entire career would be the dumbest thing possible.

Also the scout saying a 12 year vet with 750 games played has "untapped potential" should be fired immediately.
 

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Risto definitely has more upside than Kulak



We’re 8-2-0 in the last 10. Now isn’t the time to overpay on a big shakeup trade
More upside, I agree, but at no point in his hockey career has he been an effective hockey player.

He's a skilled jack of all trades, who is almost good enough in a lot of respects, but always comes up short and never cut out a clear role for himself.
 
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Ristolainen's numbers legitimately look better the past few years under Tortorella than they ever did before and has actually been an adequate 2nd pair dman. But he's still not worth 5.5 million and sure as hell not worth the "big RHD" label that NHL GMs are illogically obsessed with and would grossly inflate his trade value. He'd also stylistically be a horrible fit alongside Nurse since he basically does what Nurse does just worse at everything and can't carry the puck. All we really need next to Nurse is a Kris Russell/Ethan Bear clone, those are the kinds of guys he works best with. Smart about positioning, good in transition both ways (defending zone entries and moving the puck out).
 

The Nuge

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Yup I missed the Byram part because I can’t see the post you responded to. Not sure why you needed to be this way about it because I was genuinely asking.

I didn’t think that was overly harsh compared to the drive by gotcha attempt, but if that wasn’t how you meant it, then I apologize

More upside, I agree, but at no point in his hockey career has he been an effective hockey player.

He's a skilled jack of all trades, who is almost good enough in a lot of respects, but always comes up short and never cut out a clear role for himself.

That’s certainly a fair criticism. But that’s also pretty similar to how people were talking about Nurse just last year. I’d just rather target a guy who has the size and skill but struggles to consistently put it together over waiting a picking up a plug with limited upside
 

TheNumber4

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It's pretty well documented that Nurse works best with guys that can defend the blue line, recover dump-ins and move pucks up ice.

Targeting a guy in Risto that's been amongst the worst in the entire league at those things his entire career would be the dumbest thing possible.

Also the scout saying a 12 year vet with 750 games played has "untapped potential" should be fired immediately.
Here's Risto moving the puck in ONE game I watched:
 

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Dirk Dangler

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The Oilers should spend some assets to get Colton Sissons (at 25% on the cap) and Michael McCarron (at 50% on the cap) to fill out the bottom-6
Not sure if we really need Sissons, although he would be nice. But McCarron would really check all the boxes. Big, right shot center, 54% on the dot, playing 2:24 mins short handed a game, and he’s tough. I’m sick of seeing our boys get cheap shotted out there. We need to add toughness. Adding McCarron and then Kane back into the mix would really help. Not goons either. Functional toughness.
 

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The Oilers should spend some assets to get Colton Sissons (at 25% on the cap) and Michael McCarron (at 50% on the cap) to fill out the bottom-6
Like both players but who they getting rid of? When Kane and RV come back there will be some hard decisions already. Ryan the obvious choice and likely Kapanen when at full roster. I can’t see them sitting Brown and/or Janmark, maybe Perry?
 

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