Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Y'all Got Any Good Goalies?

Soundwave

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This problem in goal is getting eradicated as we speak... slowly. Just because we started off slow doesn't mean its going to last all season. A problem we've had for so long is a top 4 right side Dman. Why would you not fix that when Skinner and Picakrd are slowly picking up their game?


Fowler is not washed yet


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So you don't want any Dman except for a top 10 Dman in the league?

It isn't eradicated. Koskinen had similar stretches here too ... Skinner will have up stretches, unfortunately that also means bad low stretches. It's who he is and what you get for what you're paying for.
 

Soundwave

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Mintyukov is a little bit of a different situation because it would be an investment for the long term.

EDM 1st 2026
Savoie
Evander Kane

for

John Gibson @50% retained
Mintyukov

Then acquire Klim Kostin for peanuts. I'd try to keep Savoie some how, but I dunno if that would work.
 

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I wonder if they're running him into the ground. He's definitely a player I would pursue if I'm the Oilers, cost control, upside, makes a ton of sense.

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His fancies.
 

Soundwave

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Not without Conroy being a complete bitch about it.

Actually the bigger problem with it is even if you could figure out a trade for him, exactly where is the money for his extension coming from. He will want a 8-9 million extension too on top of Bouchard's raise and Nurse already making 9.25 and the same year McDavid is up for a raise.

It doesn't work.
 
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McAsuno

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Actually the bigger problem with it is even if you could figure out a trade for him, exactly where is the money for his extension coming from. He will want a 8-9 million extension too on top of Bouhard's raise and Nurse already making 9.25.

It doesn't work.
Yep but you can factor Conroy asking for a much more king ransom unlike with other teams since he's a bitch anyways.
Zone exit machine it looks like, recoveries need work. But if he's that solid with zone exits on a team with the short comings the Ducks have, there might really be a player here.

Coffey would be such a good coach for him. I don't see it happening though. Even acquiring Borgen would be great.
 

AddyTheWrath

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Borgen's been averaging 15 min of TOI a night this season. Some games his TOI has even been as low as 11-12 mins.

What's the reason for this decline? Fallen out of favour with coaching? Playing worse this year?
 
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SupremeTeam16

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I've always thought Borgen would be a great fit.

Big, mobile righty. Impending UFA having a bit of a down year, so could be cheapish and could get retention.

He was one of the best elite comp D in the league last year. They were using him as their matchup righty over Larsson even.
He was the next guy on my list after Fabbro for guys I thought the Oilers should target.

He’s in his prime and was really coming into his own last year as you mentioned but Montour coming in has resulted in a demotion and I think that’s affected his game.
 

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The other problem with our goaltending is what happens if Skinner ever suffers an injury?

Pickard was a guy in the AHL and has never played a ton of games. Rodrigue has 0 NHL experience.

We need at the very least another goalie in our system who has proven NHL experience even if it's like a freaking Matt Murray or someone.
 
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It sounds like if that Dman becomes available to us, we will make the trade whenever and not wait until the deadline
 

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Re: Goaltending: no trade is coming. Which is good news for all of you because you'll get to keep whining about goaltending until this team wins the cup!!

We should be spending every asset we have available on a #3 or #4 guy. Stu is our man, and Pickard is a solid backup. That's the end of it
Correct, end of story.

The goaltending might not be ideal but the team is married to these guys. I like Stu more than most and think the team can win a Cup with him because the Oilers don't need much more than a merely average goalie to win a Cup and the team probably thinks the same. Pickard proved good enough last playoffs to spell Skinner if he's struggling so...this will be the duo.
I do think they should look into finding a better version of Pickard but I just don't think they will.

All the rumors seem to be pointing to them eyeing a 2nd pairing Dman so that is more than likely what the add will be so all this talk about this goalie and that goalie just seems fruitless IMO.
 
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Soundwave

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Correct, end of story.

The goaltending might not be ideal but the team is married to these guys. I like Stu more than most and think the team can win a Cup with him because the Oilers don't need much more than a merely average goalie to win a Cup and the team probably thinks the same. Pickard proved good enough last playoffs to spell Skinner if he's struggling so...this will be the duo.
I do think they should look into finding a better version of Pickard but I just don't think they will.

All the rumors seem to be pointing to them eyeing a 2nd pairing Dman so that is more than likely what the add will be so all this talk about this goalie and that goalie just seems fruitless IMO.

The team (meaning management) is just stupid then.

Risking the McDavid era by spending less on goaltending than rebuilding teams do is a stupid strategy especially when Skinner has massive red flags in his game.

Now they want to pay out the ass for a "top four DEEEEE!!!!" when they mismanaged a cost controlled one in Broberg out of here like morons.
 

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Yet ironically enough still has a higher save percentage then skinner all while playing on the ducks......
What were their save percentages the last 3 seasons? I'll save you the time....

.913
.913
.905

.904
.899
.888

Guess which is which? I'm aware that it was behind two teams on the opposite side of the spectrum but still, the numbers are the numbers.
I do think they should bring in a tandem goalie but Gibson at that salary even retained ain't it.
 
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Soundwave

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What were their save percentages the last 3 seasons? I'll save you the time....

.913
.913
.905

.904
.899
.888

Guess which is which? I'm aware that it was behind two teams on the opposite side of the spectrum but still, the numbers are the numbers.
I do think they should bring in a tandem goalie but Gibson at that salary even retained ain't it.

Skinner wouldn't even be in the NHL if he was on the Ducks. He'd wash out of the league like Ben Scrivens.

You can't compare the Ducks to the Oilers, the Oilers have one of the best defensive systems in the league, the Ducks are maybe the worst defensive team in the league.
 

Soundwave

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I'm down with any of those names outside of Savard. God help us if that's the big acquisition.

Why does a team that's 3rd best in the league for goals against since the 3rd game of the season need "a big acquisition" anyway?
 
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Correct, end of story.

The goaltending might not be ideal but the team is married to these guys. I like Stu more than most and think the team can win a Cup with him because the Oilers don't need much more than a merely average goalie to win a Cup and the team probably thinks the same. Pickard proved good enough last playoffs to spell Skinner if he's struggling so...this will be the duo.
I do think they should look into finding a better version of Pickard but I just don't think they will.

All the rumors seem to be pointing to them eyeing a 2nd pairing Dman so that is more than likely what the add will be so all this talk about this goalie and that goalie just seems fruitless IMO.
A 2nd pairing d-man is exactly what they should be targeting. A significant injury to the back end might doom our season.
 

McTonyBrar

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It isn't eradicated. Koskinen had similar stretches here too ... Skinner will have up stretches, unfortunately that also means bad low stretches. It's who he is and what you get for what you're paying for.
Koskinen didn't play well in 3 of the 4 rounds in the playoffs.

Will Borgen is good enough. The cost will be a 2nd or 3rd and that's fine.

Don't spend a 1st on Provorov, it's not worth it because he won't resign here.
Is this Ken Holland? Hell no.

Give it your all to try to acquire one of Provorov, Mintyukov, Andersson.

If worst comes to worst, then go for Fowler or Borgen
 

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