Oilslick941611
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i dont see him doing any better than our current options
with what? our 2030 first round pick?
Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Y'all Got Any Good Goalies?
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Trying picturing Gibson on the Oilers and Stuart on Anaheim.
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It kind of makes sense since the Ducks have two other really good young lefties in Zellweger and Lacombe, but that would be crazy to see Mintyukov moved.
I feel like you'd only get him with a similar deal they made with Drysdale for Gauthier.
I feel like you'd only get him with a similar deal they made with Drysdale for Gauthier.
If the Oilers are gonna go down that path they'd have to be damn sure about Nurse and Kulak holding up as a pairing, because you're probably be spending the only assets they have (future first and second round draft picks) on a defenceman like that.
Maybe Bowman can fleece Verbeek considering Verbeek got fleeced by trading Vaakanainen and a 4th for a no salary retained Trouba last week lol.
I don't think Mintyukov is the answer to any question about our roster unless he's coming dirt cheap (and he won't). Borgen sure, I see some nice things there.
Savoie for Mintyukov. I don't hate it.
Up our chances on bringing Beryozkin
Up our chances on bringing Beryozkin
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I’d probably do that trade if both Matheson and Montembault are coming back.
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Mintyukov had some success earlier but the Ducks aren't as high on him now, so maybe it's a buy "slightly" low candidate on a young cost controlled player with upside.
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I agree.
I have to admit though I havent looked at how the Ducks are deploying him.
A quick glance at his TOI suggests that he is getting some tough minutes as he is at 20:43 although he might be getting caved.
So he may or may not be ready to take some shifts on Darnells right side.
Yes I feel Gibson will do better here, I think it's probably a fair assessment that any goalie playing behind a terrible D will do better behind one of the top D systems in the league. And yes, Knob/Coffey's system is that, it's simply becoming too hard to ignore the results.
I don't think the cost would be exorbinant either, the problem with Gibson in the past was always that he had a full NMC and the presumption was he wouldn't waive to go from sunny California to Edmonton. But now we have word that he would waive for Edmonton.
If you can get 50% retention I would consider it. Anaheim is better off finding someone who will take half his salary rather than paying 100% of it because Dostal is likely going to be their guy for the future and need a big raise himself.
Goaltending is the no.1 thing keeping us from a Cup, it's the no.1 thing that evens the playing field for teams hoping to beat us. Florida beat us because 3 freebie wins to start the series largely on the back of a goaltending disparity, it took 7 games to beat Vancouver because Skinner crapped the bed.
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The only names that we should be interested in on that list are Mintyukov, Borgen, Andersson and maybe Provorov.
The rest of them are either washed or not any good.
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He's a lefty though right? I imagine the plan would be to play him with Stecher or Emberson, and hope that he can thrive against soft comp this season, and eventually take Ekholm's spot in a couple years.
I kind of favour a more short-sighted, win now move if it's available, but I do think they're in a position where they should be trading for the best player available, regardless of position.
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You're right...he is a lefty. I assumed he was a RHD....should have double checked.
Im with you...not sure about this move for this season but damn he would be a nice player to have.
They would have him for less than $1M until 2026/27.
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MINTY ERA LETS GO
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Looks like he's played some tough minutes beside Dumoulin. They're #1 and 2 for elite comp minutes on the Ducks.
Not sure if he or Dumo were playing the right side.
Will Borgen seems the most realistic from that list. RD, cheap, probably Seattle can retain some.
We should have just been on the ball with the Fabbro situation but c'est la vive.
I don't think we should spend big on the back end. Someone decent is good enough, we don't need the moon back there, the defensive system frankly might be other than having McDavid the no.1 strength of the team.
Andersson and guys like that will cost a fortune, Provorov probably a 1st for a guy who will bolt right after the season. Mintyukov would cost a lot.
We should have just been on the ball with the Fabbro situation but c'est la vive.
I don't think we should spend big on the back end. Someone decent is good enough, we don't need the moon back there, the defensive system frankly might be other than having McDavid the no.1 strength of the team.
Andersson and guys like that will cost a fortune, Provorov probably a 1st for a guy who will bolt right after the season. Mintyukov would cost a lot.
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I can definitely see the logic behind making a big move for a young LD that they really like. You have to figure Ekholm is going to slow down and probably wind-down to more of a second or third pairing guy at some point, so bringing in a cost-controlled young D that you think could take his spot could seriously extend their window.
It's a huge risk though, because it means you'll have to get creative with assets to add more to this year's team. But hypothetically, if they trade for someone like Mintyukov, they'd still have a ton of cap space to add at the deadline. I feel like this whole scenario only makes sense if you don't love what else is out there more win-now moves.
Oilslick941611
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personally i think that trade or trade along those lines sets up for another decade+ of desert wandering and doesn't get us a cup.
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I say no to everyone on that list. Anderson isn't happening, and everyone else is over the hill
This problem in goal is getting eradicated as we speak... slowly. Just because we started off slow doesn't mean its going to last all season. A problem we've had for so long is a top 4 right side Dman. Why would you not fix that when Skinner and Picakrd are slowly picking up their game?
Fowler is not washed yet
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So you don't want any Dman except for a top 10 Dman in the league?
