Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Skinner has been getting nuked by the good teams all year. Do people think it will magically get better in the playoffs?

 

[Heavy Dee]

Every one drooling about the possibility of Gibson myself included and I'm sure given are past we ain't doing anything in net. No matter how obvious the hole is....

Nope. Because management has never valued it enough to win. And with Bowman winning cups with Corey Crawford, he doesn't either.

We will be bitching about this again in May or June.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I saw a report that Carolina would consider moving Rantanen at the deadline if they can't extend him. If he were willing to extend here, I would do crazy things to bring him here as well as Gibson on 50% retention. Bring in those 2 players with term left, we are far and above the cup favourites for the next few seasons.

O'Rielly
Akey
Rodrigue
Arvidsson
Our next couple firsts and 2nds

All of that would be on the table. (I'm again keeping Savoie because we would be doing some cap gymnastics next year to keep everything in place)

 

[Mr Positive]

We have assets. Look it how Vegas operates. You trade Sam O' Reilly, you trade Savoie, trade a 1st round pick. Everyone overrates prospects anyways.

Our window is right now. We have multiple holes on this team.

Do you guys not get that in the Stanley cup playoffs 2027 (3 years) Hyman will be 35, Nuge 34, Ekholm 37, Drai 31.

Forget about Mcdavid winning *multiple cups* get aggressive and start with one.

If we made an all-in move like that I'd accept it, but I'm just anticipating what our management is up to.

They have said they want to rebuild the youth movement, and that was even before we got those offer sheets. We picked O'Reilly with a traded pick because we have a plan for him. We would have had better trade capital by just trading the pick. I'm guessing there's plans for Akey and Savoie as well. Maybe the 2026 1st would be up for sale

I prefer to speculate in what we actually might do. It's not necessarily about what I really want

Nope. Because management has never valued it enough to win. And with Bowman winning cups with Corey Crawford, he doesn't either.

We will be bitching about this again in May or June.

It will be maddening if we lose in part due to goaltending and the media guys will be saying that no one saw that coming. Or shifting blame off of goaltending as much as possible

 

[Dirk Dangler]

I'm not sold on Gibson, as I'm more so leaning towards this year being a outlier of his last 6, rather then 5 of his last 6 years being out outliers of his carrier

Having said that, IF the price was right, and they took pickard back....id be willing to run a gibson/stu duo just for the sake of not running it back again this year and hoping for a different result

Gotta do a little more digging than that. In those 5 years he had to deal with the Eakins effect and injuries. Outside of Eakins his numbers are consistently good.

 

[soothsayer]

Oilers one of the teams interested in Ryan Donato.

"I'll take Rantanen or Dobson please."

"Best I can do is Ryan Donato."

Nope. Because management has never valued it enough to win. And with Bowman winning cups with Corey Crawford, he doesn't either.

We will be bitching about this again in May or June.

Corey Crawford was a Vezina caliber goaltender. When the Blackhawks won their cups with him in net, he had a .932 and a .924. And those Blackhawk teams were arguably better than this Oilers team.

Bowman should know better. If Skinner puts up an .880 against Vegas or Winnipeg, like he did against the Canucks, that's the end of the season. They have to know the risks.

 

[Heavy Dee]

I accept this logix for prospects like O'Rielly and Akey. Savoie to me is untouchable. He should bring a lot in the next 2 years at basically league min.

We dont know if Savoie is Yamamoto or Eberle. Waiting 2-3 years to find out is a risk if he has high trade value now.

 

[LTIR]

Time and time again, narcissists tend to bend the masses into beleiving what they do is correct simply because of they are given a position of power. When you look at this Oilers management, its full of guys like this. All they had to do was re-up 2 of the 4 wingers in the offseason. Holloway and one of Foegle or Mcleod. Forward problems wouldnt even exist. They cant get out of thier own way. They would very much like the 22 Avs. Running through the league at will. Instead goofs wanted to look important and pretend they improved a finished product.

Hindsight is 20/20.
The finished product up front looked much more solid with us retaining Henrique, Brown, Perry ,Janmark and adding Arvidsson, Podkolzin, Kapanen and Skinner.

We just need to add some speed that we lost in Foegele, McLeod and Holloway. Would also be nice if McDavid improves on defensive side and not be a liability. Bouchard (+ S.Skinner) can also get his head outta his ass.

Do we know what Savoie will be?

Some contender in need of goaltending would see Gibson retained worthy of a first. And that's what Savoie is.

Should give Savoie a cup of tea in NHL alongside McDavid before trading him away.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

Blackwood just got $5.25M for three years before the announcement of the huge jump in the cap. Suppose Skinner remains the team's #1 guy. Why would he ask for anything less especially since the cap will be $104M? You may be right that the Oilers won't pay that, but then if they are at the mercy of the UFA market for a goalie. That has never proved to be a good option.

At the start of the season it was mentioned multiple times in media to watch what Swayman got in comparison to a new Skinner contract. Scary stuff.

 

[McHelpus]

Nope. Because management has never valued it enough to win. And with Bowman winning cups with Corey Crawford, he doesn't either.

We will be bitching about this again in May or June.

I think people need to go look at Corey Crawfords stats (especially during the playoffs). Crawfords worst playoff year is Skinners best. We lost our minds when Skinner won us game 6 against Dallas, but elite goalies do that all the time.

 

[foshizzle]

I saw a report that Carolina would consider moving Rantanen at the deadline if they can't extend him. If he were willing to extend here, I would do crazy things to bring him here as well as Gibson on 50% retention. Bring in those 2 players with term left, we are far and above the cup favourites for the next few seasons.

O'Rielly
Akey
Rodrigue
Arvidsson
Our next couple firsts and 2nds

All of that would be on the table. (I'm again keeping Savoie because we would be doing some cap gymnastics next year to keep everything in place)

Stauffer hinted at this on his show earlier this week. You can listen to it in podcast form. It was the segment with Staples.

 

[McAsuno]

I think people need to go look at Corey Crawfords stats (especially during the playoffs). Crawfords worst playoff year is Skinners best. We lost our minds when Skinner won us game 6 against Dallas, but elite goalies do that all the time.

Skinner almost cost us in the Canucks series too. He was meh in the kings series and then utter dog shit in the finals. No way do I want another wasted year in the playoffs with him in net. Nothing is more frustrating when the team scores first or ties it, then the sieve allows a weak goal which deflates the team and energy of the crowd especially during the playoffs.

 

[Jarvi]

Should give Savoie a cup of tea in NHL alongside McDavid before trading him away.

I think he should go beside Drai. McD can be hard for players to adapt to, Drai can work with anyone especially since he is just as good of a goalscorer as he is a facilitator. But I agree with the premise, he needs to be tried out before they even consider trading him. I really hope they don't though, as his ELC could be incredibly valuable. He is about as untouchable as it gets for me, outside of the obvious guys on the roster.

 

[Duder54]

This year's team reminds me of 2006 in that getting a goalie could really make the Oilers dangerous come April. We need the 2025 version of that Dwayne Roloson acquisition (but this time with a SCF victory, please).

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Do we know what Savoie will be?

Some contender in need of goaltending would see Gibson retained worthy of a first. And that's what Savoie is.

Then trade a future 1st. We need guys like Savoie, O'Reilly, etc. to start to fill in the depth roles of the team more than we need a pick from 2 years from now.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

We dont know if Savoie is Yamamoto or Eberle. Waiting 2-3 years to find out is a risk if he has high trade value now.

He is a better skater and better all around offensive player than Yamamoto. He is a home grown top 6 option that is also solid defensively and can PK. This is not a player that you trade away for anything but a home run win. This team lacks dynamic offensive players beyond McDrai, Savoie is the type of player that can beat you with his passing, shooting and skating. These types of players are not easy to come by.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

If we made an all-in move like that I'd accept it, but I'm just anticipating what our management is up to.

They have said they want to rebuild the youth movement, and that was even before we got those offer sheets. We picked O'Reilly with a traded pick because we have a plan for him. We would have had better trade capital by just trading the pick. I'm guessing there's plans for Akey and Savoie as well. Maybe the 2026 1st would be up for sale

I prefer to speculate in what we actually might do. It's not necessarily about what I really want


It will be maddening if we lose in part due to goaltending and the media guys will be saying that no one saw that coming. Or shifting blame off of goaltending as much as possible

What we might actually do: Add Donato and add a #7 LHD.

What's wrong with giving your opinion on what we need to do?

For example last year I wanted Buchnevich. We end up with Henrique who was plan C. If we traded Broberg (who we lost anyways) get Buch we probably win the cup. It was a complete failure.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

What we might actually do: Add Donato and add a #7 LHD.

What's wrong with giving your opinion on what we need to do?

For example last year I wanted Buchnevich. We end up with Henrique who was plan C. If we traded Broberg (who we lost anyways) get Buch we probably win the cup. It was a complete failure.

If we added Donato and another solid vet d-man alone that wouldn't be too great. Now if we did that and also added a better goalie and get Kane back? That is solid. Now if Savoie shows to be ready then we are really cooking with gas.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

We dont know if Savoie is Yamamoto or Eberle. Waiting 2-3 years to find out is a risk if he has high trade value now.

I agree 100 percent. We have the team now and in the future we probably won't.

I'm starting to see and hear that there will not be any significant moves happening. Unless Bowman is playing really good poker or has a change of heart this has bust written all over it.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

If we added Donato and another solid vet d-man alone that wouldn't be too great. Now if we did that and also added a better goalie and get Kane back? That is solid. Now if Savoie shows to be ready then we are really cooking with gas.

Agreed! I will take Donato and a goalie, but to save all our futures and just do nothing sends a VERY poor message.

 

[McDoused]

On my phone but heres the numbers from hockey reference for the stanley champions save % in the regular season vs the Oilers current numbers.

NHL Stanley Cup Winners | Hockey-Reference.com

Stanley Cup winners from 1918 to today on Hockey-Reference.com.

www.hockey-reference.com

The 2009 Chicago blachawks had a 0.901 sv% and then when the hurricanes won with a .897 sv%. The hurricanes won that series because Roloson was injured. Niemi was the only one to win a cup and it was in spite of him not because of it.

The goal isn't to be good or average. It's to be the best and win a cup.

 

[Oilhawks]

On my phone but heres the numbers from hockey reference for the stanley champions save % in the regular season vs the Oilers current numbers.

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NHL Stanley Cup Winners | Hockey-Reference.com

Stanley Cup winners from 1918 to today on Hockey-Reference.com.

www.hockey-reference.com

The 2009 Chicago blachawks had a 0.901 sv% and then when the hurricanes won with a .897 sv%. The hurricanes won that series because Roloson was injured. Niemi was the only one to win a cup and it was in spite of him not because of it.

The goal isn't to be good or average. It's to be the best and win a cup.

In addition to the bolded, Flyers' Leighton had solid stats but he sucked in the Finals (and was never a great goalie to begin with).

The Cup winning goal he gave up was arguably as embarrassing as the one Stu gave up, though it did lead to a really iconic Cup winning goal celebration (IMO)

 

[McFlash97]

If we added Donato and another solid vet d-man alone that wouldn't be too great. Now if we did that and also added a better goalie and get Kane back? That is solid. Now if Savoie shows to be ready then we are really cooking with gas.

I feel Savoie is basically our home grown Point if we let him perculate in the minors for another 20 games. He could also be that youthful exhuberance every team needs during the playoffs at key moments.

 

[Soundwave]

On my phone but heres the numbers from hockey reference for the stanley champions save % in the regular season vs the Oilers current numbers.

View attachment 975156

NHL Stanley Cup Winners | Hockey-Reference.com

Stanley Cup winners from 1918 to today on Hockey-Reference.com.

www.hockey-reference.com

The 2009 Chicago blachawks had a 0.901 sv% and then when the hurricanes won with a .897 sv%. The hurricanes won that series because Roloson was injured. Niemi was the only one to win a cup and it was in spite of him not because of it.

The goal isn't to be good or average. It's to be the best and win a cup.

That basically spells out the truth ... the Oilers are running two back up goalies and pretending one of them is a starter because of where he was born. They don't have a legit starter.

 

[McJadeddog]

This year's team reminds me of 2006 in that getting a goalie could really make the Oilers dangerous come April. We need the 2025 version of that Dwayne Roloson acquisition (but this time with a SCF victory, please).

Yup, there are lots of parallels in fact. We are statistically a pretty great defensive team, but we are being screwed by 30th percentile goaltending. We need a goalie, and anybody with a brain in their head can see this. Whether our mgmt group sees it or not, is still yet to be determined.