Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[belair]

That basically spells out the truth ... the Oilers are running two back up goalies and pretending one of them is a starter because of where he was born. They don't have a legit starter.

You know who actually isn't a starting goalie right now and hasn't been an effective one in over half a decade?

John Gibson.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Team like Dallas trade for Grandlund and are still looking at adding more key pieces.

It's funny that everyone thought we would wait and add a better player than M. Pettersson. I would have been very happy with a Pettersson type move. We are going to add a bottom 6 forward (which we have many)


"He’s probably a bit higher-end than the Oilers would be looking to add," writes Seravalli, "but Palmieri as a shooter on Leon Draisaitl’s right flank is something to think about.” Edmonton is more likely to target a depth defenceman and a more affordable bottom-six forward

 

[Soundwave]

Hyptothetical

EDM 1st 2026 + Arvidsson for Lawson Crouse

STL 2nd 2025 for Cam Talbot @500k retained

2nd round pick EDM for a d-man (Dumolin?)

It really sucks having holes at forward, D, and goalie, lol the management here just spends a ton and ends up with the same holes anyway.

Not sure if that would get Crouse or if Utah is even a seller (still in the hunt).

You know who actually isn't a starting goalie right now and hasn't been an effective one in over half a decade?

John Gibson.

Dwayne Roloson wasn't the starter in 2006 in Minnesota either, he sure did OK behind the 2006 team we had. Some teams actually have two starting caliber goalies. Anaheim has just been a shit team since they decided to "rebuild" like 6 years ago, that's going to tank any goalie's numbers in the long run. Skinner wouldn't even be in the NHL if you put him on the Ducks the last three years, he'd wash right out of the league.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I feel Savoie is basically our home grown Point if we let him perculate in the minors for another 20 games. He could also be that youthful exhuberance every team needs during the playoffs at key moments.

He's small, wasn't that noticeable in the WHL and is not NHL ready.

Savoie is not at all Brayden Point. Some people just overrate every Oilers player.

 

[soothsayer]

Team like Dallas trade for Grandlund and are still looking at adding more key pieces.

It's funny that everyone thought we would wait and add a better player than M. Pettersson. I would have been very happy with a Pettersson type move. We are going to add a bottom 6 forward (which we have many)


"He’s probably a bit higher-end than the Oilers would be looking to add," writes Seravalli, "but Palmieri as a shooter on Leon Draisaitl’s right flank is something to think about.” Edmonton is more likely to target a depth defenceman and a more affordable bottom-six forward

This doesn't make sense to me. They've always went right to the cap, and those low level moves would seem to leave cap space on the table. I still think the Oilers are going to take a big swing. Just not sure where in the lineup it's going to land.

 

[belair]

Dwayne Roloson wasn't the starter in 2006 in Minnesota here, he sure did OK behind the 2006 team we had. Some teams actually have two starting caliber goalies. Anaheim has just been a shit team since they decided to "rebuild" like 6 years ago, that's going to tank any goalie's numbers in the long run.

Dwayne Roloson in the years prior held a 0.908, 0.928 and 0.933 SV%. The two latter season he'd started 50 games for the Wild.

Gibson? Prior to this year he ran 0.888, 0.889, 0.904, 0.903... He lost the job.

And if you'd like to praise his resurgence this year, take a gander at the teams he scooped up those nine wins off of.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

This doesn't make sense to me. They've always went right to the cap, and those low level moves would seem to leave cap space on the table. I still think the Oilers are going to take a big swing. Just not sure where in the lineup it's going to land.

I hope you are right my friend! It completely boggles my mind to the point I need to walk away. Go Chiefs

 

[McJadeddog]

If we get him, it's a very slick move by baldy.

Also, is anyone actually going to watch this tournament?

I'm sticking to the Bakersfield Condors AKA Meaningful hockey lol

Donata is basically a 3rd line C right? At least that is what he would be on the Oilers. He is currently getting 1:43 PP/TOI/GP right now with Chicago and he wouldn't sniff the PP on our team. He also doesn't PK. He is shooting 5% more than his career average right now, and combined with his PP time, his counting stats are getting pumped up. He is 8th on the team for ES xGF%, and 4th forward, so he isn't TERRIBLE for 200-foot game on a bad team (he is only 45%). He is 11th on his team for % of ice time against elites, so he isn't getting hard-matched against the other teams best players.

Basically all in all, he is maybe an average to below average 3rd line C, or good 4th line C.

 

[McFlash97]

He's small, wasn't that noticeable in the WHL and is not NHL ready.

Savoie is not at all Brayden Point. Some people just overrate every Oilers player.

Your clueless.

The first sentence is so off base, that it makes the rest of the post meaningless

 

[foshizzle]

You know who actually isn't a starting goalie right now and hasn't been an effective one in over half a decade?

John Gibson.

And yet has better numbers than Skinner on a far worse team. Gibson also starts off well before his team is an utter disaster and his play is reflective of that.

And to counter your question- you k ow who is t a starting goaltender…Stuart Skinner. That isn’t opinion, that’s based on actual data

 

[Zerotonine]

You know who actually isn't a starting goalie right now and hasn't been an effective one in over half a decade?

John Gibson.

Gibson has just as good if not better stats on the ducks then skinner does on the Oilers. Ask your self one simple question. Would Gibson stats get better or worse on the Oilers and would skinners get better or worse on the ducks. Pretty easy answer

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Your clueless.

The first sentence is so off base, that it makes the rest of the post meaningless

Bro you are the one saying Savoie is Brayden Point. Cmon now.

 

[Soundwave]

Dwayne Roloson in the years prior held a 0.908, 0.928 and 0.933 SV%. The two latter season he'd started 50 games for the Wild.

Gibson? Prior to this year he ran 0.888, 0.889, 0.904, 0.903... He lost the job.

And if you'd like to praise his resurgence this year, take a gander at the teams he scooped up those nine wins off of.

.900 on a bad team actually is pretty good, Skinner being .900 on like one of the best teams in the league is really poor.

Gibson is not going to be playing behind a rebuilding team here if we buy on him, there's a fair chance his numbers stay where they are or even rise a bit if he were brought here.

Skinner wouldn't even be in the league if you took him and put him on the last three years versions of the Ducks. Can you imagine this dude playing on a Dallas Eakins team? He would completely wash out of the league period.

Stuart Skinner is a starting goalie the same way Kailer Yamamoto is a top 6 forward ... they're not and the longer the charade goes on the more clear it becomes they're not.

 

[McFlash97]

Bro you are the one saying Savoie is Brayden Point. Cmon now.

I bet this is your 2nd account. Secretly pretending to be an Oiler fan. My guess a seething Canucks or Flames fan...

 

[Fourier]

I think people need to go look at Corey Crawfords stats (especially during the playoffs). Crawfords worst playoff year is Skinners best. We lost our minds when Skinner won us game 6 against Dallas, but elite goalies do that all the time.

Crawford was not a truly great goalie but he was very steady. That is exactly what the Oilers need. I'd take a Corey Crawford in a heartbeat.

 

[Soundwave]

Crawford was not a truly great goalie but he was very steady. That is exactly what the Oilers need. I'd take a Corey Crawford in a heartbeat.

Crawford was .932 and .924 the two years he won the Cup ... uh ... yes please. Even if you translate that to .915 in the modern context, we win last year's Cup easily with that.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Donato is a solid player but not for a 1st. If they wanted this kind of player they should have just kept Foegele, like what is the management here even good for?

He’s an American too, high probability he bolts and signs with a US team in the summer.

Not even close to a first. I fear that on a deeper team he may just blend in with our other 9 bottom six forwards.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I bet this is your 2nd account. Secretly pretending to be an Oiler fan. My guess a seething Canucks or Flames fan...

Way to keep it original. Sorry Savoie is not Brayden Point.

 

[McFlash97]

I love the idea of Seth Jones... even at 6.5 per year. Should be able to afford it next year as cap goes up as well.

If People have an issue with Nurse sometimes, they will burn Jones at the steak. The most underperforming, soft, low IQ top 5 selected defenseman in decades.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Oilers need to do something here. This team is great but it lacks a good defenseman, a Veteran goalie and a 3c

 

[Soundwave]

Oilers need to do something here. This team is great but it lacks a good defenseman, a Veteran goalie and a 3c

This same analysis could apply to the last 5 years, lol. Pay Henrique 3 million and still need to spend more for another center, it never ends. You can throw a scoring winger onto that pile of never resolved needs too.

 

[belair]

.900 on a bad team actually is pretty good, Skinner being .900 on like one of the best teams in the league is really poor.

Gibson is not going to be playing behind a rebuilding team here if we buy on him, there's a fair chance his numbers stay where they are or even rise a bit if he were brought here.

Skinner wouldn't even be in the league if you took him and put him on the last three years versions of the Ducks. Can you imagine this dude playing on a Dallas Eakins team? He would completely wash out of the league period.

Stuart Skinner is a starting goalie the same way Kailer Yamamoto is a top 6 forward ... they're not and the longer the charade goes on the more clear it becomes they're not.

The last time he'd posted a 0.900 was 2022. And in all of those years I provided, he was being outperformed by both Dostal and Anthony Stolarz.

You need to address the fact that the bad has heavily outweighed the good when it comes to Gibson's isolated performance when we use that pretty significant sample. He hasn't been a good goalie, while his partners somehow perform better.

Then we can mention the bit where Anaheim isn't retaining half of his salary because that would cost their ownership north of $14m in cash.

 

[McFlash97]

Way to keep it original.

The fact your already not willing to cut Savoie any slack, a just turned 21 year old rookie who skates faster than Point at the same age, just slightly smaller than Point and averaged a higher PPG than Point playing a year less in Juniors shows me your not really following Savoie or the team.

 

[Soundwave]

Way to keep it original. Sorry Savoie is not Brayden Point.

His AHL numbers are better than Dylan Holloway in their first AHL seasons (by a fair amount too), I'll take it. We have our top 6 drivers in McDavid and Draisaitl already, we don't need another. He just needs to have the talent level to play off those types of guys.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

You know who actually isn't a starting goalie right now and hasn't been an effective one in over half a decade?

John Gibson.

Anahiem was one of the worst teams in the league. It’s ridiculous you don’t factor in that. Yes backups had some success. That’s not the same as playing years and years as the starter on a terrible team.