Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[McShogun99]

Never should have got to that point, they could have locked both of them up as RFAs earlier.

We tried to do the same thing to the two of them as they did to McLeod two years prior and it blew up in the front office’s face.

McLeod was never going to get an offer sheet over two recent, high draft picks that excelled during the playoffs. What a bad gamble by management to try and strong arm them into signing cheap contracts.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I would be very interest in seeing how Gibson would perform behind a cup contender all of a sudden.

I think he would do better #'s than the guy we currently have.....He's above him in most metrics on that team

 

[Devilmademedoit]

I honestly can't tell which Pettersson is doing what.

How would you like to do play by play when all three are on the ice?

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I dont think I'm gonna convince anyone here otherwise so maybe I'll just stop ranting about it. I'm just passionate about something I see as a clear issue for a team trying to win a cup.

Edmonton has the best 5v5 HDCA/60 with only 9.31. We are also 7th best in the league with SCA/60 with 24.43. Can the defence be better, sure but you could easily make the argument that we are one of the best defensive teams in the league. Were 2nd in the league in SCF/60 and 2nd in the league in HDCF/60 so we're also elite offensively.

Meanwhile Skinner ranks 61st in gsax with a -1.7. Someone like Oettinger is ranked 20th with a +9.3. Gibson has been unreal, ranked 6th with a +14.6. It seems like a clear upgrade. He was unreal in the playoffs before and has better career numbers. To me hes a clear upgrade or at least someone you can tandem with.

The hope I see a lot is that Skinner turns it on in the playoffs while Gibson cools down. The argument is to spend the asset and upgrade elsewhere despite having an area of the team that is clearly underperforming to this point.

It is almost a no brainer to go get him and the guy (American) has made it clear he would waive for EDM. SLam dunk move.

Nothing in life is guaranteed, but do we think he would give us at minimum what Skinner is giving us? He can't be much worse. Guy has like a 913 right now on that sh** team

Dumbest management in pro sports if they do not get him or do something.

I think they should have traded Savoie and the next 3 firsts to beat their offer, personally.

That would be asinine. We do know EDM was interested this year. Who knows if they made an offer or not.

 

[McDoused]

Friedman saying:

Tarasenko - could be traded soon and doesn't see Detroit as a fit.

Brock Nelson - lou is trying to get him signed and conversations are happening.

Brayden Schenn price is high but he is available if a team is willing to pay it.

Donato - Edmonton is interested, a few Canadian teams are.

 

[Zerotonine]

Just seen the comments bowman made about goaltending and how "good" are goalies have been
Fml this isn't promising. No way he believes that. We have the worst goaltending out of the top 10 teams ainec

Everywere u turn all u see or hear is Gibson and edmonton. How is it management only ones think we are fine

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Friedman on Headlines says a few of the Canadian teams have been looking at Ryan Donato, 19 goals on the season, $2M AAV, UFA. Oilers are one of the Canadian teams looking at him.

I remember DOnato looking like CHI best player against us that last game

Just seen the comments bowman made about goaltending and how "good" are goalies have been
Fml this isn't promising. No way he believes that. We have the worst goaltending out of the top 10 teams ainec

Everywere u turn all u see or hear is Gibson and edmonton. How is it management only ones think we are fine

The guy is giving these morons an open door for a big improvement and they are just sneaking into SKinners hockey bag and sniffing his jock

Jackson - "Wuctha think Stan? It don't smell that bad heh?"

Stan - "Yeah, I agree"

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Friedman saying:

Tarasenko - could be traded soon and doesn't see Detroit as a fit.

Brock Nelson - lou is trying to get him signed and conversations are happening.

Brayden Schenn price is high but he is available if a team is willing to pay it.

Donato - Edmonton is interested, a few Canadian teams are.

A high price for Schenn is crazy, if they waived I wouldn't claim him, he's already not playing up to the level of his contract.

In general I wanted the sexy big fish deadline addition, but that last game really changed my mind. Now my thoughts are goaltending went from strongly suggested upgrade to mandatory.

Defense Klingberg even when the rust is fully off, I'm getting the impression that at this point in his career he is meant to play the role of 3rd pairing D who feasts on weak competition, but flounders against tough match-ups and needs to deployed accordingly. Meaning we either need a new 2nd pairing D or someone who can fill in Kulak's spot if he moves up.

Then at forward, while I know people like creating the sexy big scoring lines around McDavid and Drai, with the personnel we have I just see a lot of guys who can chip in and we could just go deep and have 4 lines that are a danger to score.

My thoughts are go 4 duo's of: Drai + Skinner, McDavid + Hyman, RNH + Arvi, Henrique + Perry and then the best 3rd wheels we can to support them even if 1 or 2 players are punching above their weight class. An offense by committee strategy and we always have the option to load up if the game situation deems it necessary.

 

[Soli]

Oilers one of the teams interested in Ryan Donato.

 

[Mr Positive]

Just seen the comments bowman made about goaltending and how "good" are goalies have been
Fml this isn't promising. No way he believes that. We have the worst goaltending out of the top 10 teams ainec

Everywere u turn all u see or hear is Gibson and edmonton. How is it management only ones think we are fine

Well, there's the chance that they are being smart. A great way to kill your leverage is to say that you really need a move

 

[McShogun99]

A high price for Schenn is crazy, if they waived I wouldn't claim him, he's already not playing up to the level of his contract.

In general I wanted the sexy big fish deadline addition, but that last game really changed my mind. Now my thoughts are goaltending went from strongly suggested upgrade to mandatory.

Defense Klingberg even when the rust is fully off, I'm getting the impression that at this point in his career he is meant to play the role of 3rd pairing D who feasts on weak competition, but flounders against tough match-ups and needs to deployed accordingly. Meaning we either need a new 2nd pairing D or someone who can fill in Kulak's spot if he moves up.

Then at forward, while I know people like creating the sexy big scoring lines around McDavid and Drai, with the personnel we have I just see a lot of guys who can chip in and we could just go deep and have 4 lines that are a danger to score.

My thoughts are go 4 duo's of: Drai + Skinner, McDavid + Hyman, RNH + Arvi, Henrique + Perry and then the best 3rd wheels we can to support them even if 1 or 2 players are punching above their weight class. An offense by committee strategy and we always have the option to load up if the game situation deems it necessary.

I think a goalie has to be the #1 priority followed by a partner for Nurse. I just don’t trust Klingberg or Emerson when the intensity ramps up in the playoffs.

 

[Soundwave]

Donato is a solid player but not for a 1st. If they wanted this kind of player they should have just kept Foegele, like what is the management here even good for?

He’s an American too, high probability he bolts and signs with a US team in the summer.

 

[North]

Anybody who thinks Bowman is going to come out and sewer Skinner in the media is setting themselves up for disappointment.

They see what we see but they’re not going to say that to anyone in the media.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Anybody who thinks Bowman is going to come out and sewer Skinner in the media is setting themselves up for disappointment.

They see what we see but they’re not going to say that to anyone in the media.

Of course he isn't. We have no control over the situation and we love the "sky is falling" venting lol.

I am scared shitless of going into the playoffs with Stu as the starter

I will pop the biggest boner if we get Gibson. On top of a dman at least

 

[Jumptheshark]

Friedman on Headlines says a few of the Canadian teams have been looking at Ryan Donato, 19 goals on the season, $2M AAV, UFA. Oilers are one of the Canadian teams looking at him.

I remember DOnato looking like CHI best player against us that last game


The guy is giving these morons an open door for a big improvement and they are just sneaking into SKinners hockey bag and sniffing his jock

Jackson - "Wuctha think Stan? It don't smell that bad heh?"

Stan - "Yeah, I agree"

With Donato I think the hawks are doing a pump and dump.

TOI average
Feb so far 17:33
jan: 14:23
Dec: 15:18
nov: 16:16
Oct :12.12

Looking at the where and what he has played. They look to be double shifting him and spoon feeding him minutes

TOI last 5 games
21:14
19:02
17:24
16:14
18:05

How many of the previous 20 games did he top 16min TOI? 5 times.

Here is how my mind works sometimes. HE is a UFA after this season so he is going all out for a big payday and he will price himself off the oilers this off season. So all assets traded for him will be given away for nothing. There is a reason why we need to be so active on July 1st--we do not have the prospects that will be able to step into the line up right away.

We have no choice to be a win now mode and there is a price to pay for that. We have almost daily reminders of giving away Kesselring, Broberg and Halloway for basically nothing(Podz got of to a great start but he now on the 3rd line and has 2 pts in 10 games)

We need to be smarter with our asset management. I have no problem trading picks and what little prospects but we need to get more bang for our buck back

Anybody who thinks Bowman is going to come out and sewer Skinner in the media is setting themselves up for disappointment.

They see what we see but they’re not going to say that to anyone in the media.

which skinner?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

A high price for Schenn is crazy, if they waived I wouldn't claim him, he's already not playing up to the level of his contract.

In general I wanted the sexy big fish deadline addition, but that last game really changed my mind. Now my thoughts are goaltending went from strongly suggested upgrade to mandatory.

Defense Klingberg even when the rust is fully off, I'm getting the impression that at this point in his career he is meant to play the role of 3rd pairing D who feasts on weak competition, but flounders against tough match-ups and needs to deployed accordingly. Meaning we either need a new 2nd pairing D or someone who can fill in Kulak's spot if he moves up.

Then at forward, while I know people like creating the sexy big scoring lines around McDavid and Drai, with the personnel we have I just see a lot of guys who can chip in and we could just go deep and have 4 lines that are a danger to score.

My thoughts are go 4 duo's of: Drai + Skinner, McDavid + Hyman, RNH + Arvi, Henrique + Perry and then the best 3rd wheels we can to support them even if 1 or 2 players are punching above their weight class. An offense by committee strategy and we always have the option to load up if the game situation deems it necessary.

What would you think of us adding Oleksiak if we are going to play Nurse and Kulak together? Or Murphy if we also get Donato in the same deal?

Could Oleksiak insulate Klingberg? Could Murphy help settle Nurse's game down?

 

[Stud Muffin]

What would you think of us adding Oleksiak if we are going to play Nurse and Kulak together? Or Murphy if we also get Donato in the same deal?

Could Oleksiak insulate Klingberg? Could Murphy help settle Nurse's game down?

No to Murphy. He’s badddddd. Would be worse than Ceci.

Oleksiak is worth thinking about though. And as far as Depth goes Maybe Dumoulin in a Gibson trade?

 

[AM]

Yup!

I'll happily endure decade of darkness 2.0 to watch McDrai win a cup or two. You'd have to be insane to think otherwise.

I want 5 this time.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I want 5 this time.

I will endure another sh**fest to see 1 cup in my lifetime. The chance we have 2 players like this in most of our lives is 0%. I don't care if the cupboards are gone. Do everything you can. If it doesn't work, so be it. We have a bunch of years here to try to get one.

It's the cycle of sports 99% of the time.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

Ugly game by Vejmelka today and even though he’s been stellar all year, that’s a sour taste to leave your management team with going into a long break while in the final year of your contract.

Utah is looking ever more outside at the ploffs, and will have to make a choice by the end of the month: extend him and let Ingram/Stauber compete for the backup job next year, or recoup a couple assets and kick that can down the road another season.

This is why I think Skinner might have value to a very small group of teams- if Utah isn’t sure Vejmelka is the guy, or if he doesn’t want to re-sign, flipping him for a package of Stu and a couple of other pieces gives them a safety net of sorts heading into 2025-26.

As it happens Shane Lachance is also a player I see Bill Armstrong coveting since he fits the type of club he is trying to build, so Skinner + Lachance + a later pick is a move I can see Utah entertaining over other pure futures deals if it comes to that.

I’m not the biggest Skinner fan. But I’d say you are undervaluing him. He has his ups and downs and his fancies are ugly. But Skinner typically has much better basic stats (sv% and GAA) than Vejmelka. Sure the teams affect can explain those numbers. But then you add in that Skinner is still under control on a very reasonable contract next year and Vejmelka is a UFA at the end of the season. I don’t think we would be the team adding in a swap. Plus, I think if Vejmelka is the target, it’s to play alongside Skinner.

 

[Vagabond]

Anybody who thinks Bowman is going to come out and sewer Skinner in the media is setting themselves up for disappointment.

They see what we see but they’re not going to say that to anyone in the media.

Your logic is good and all but we've seen our management mess around enough times.

 

[foshizzle]

Friedman on Headlines says a few of the Canadian teams have been looking at Ryan Donato, 19 goals on the season, $2M AAV, UFA. Oilers are one of the Canadian teams looking at him.

I remember DOnato looking like CHI best player against us that last game


The guy is giving these morons an open door for a big improvement and they are just sneaking into SKinners hockey bag and sniffing his jock

Jackson - "Wuctha think Stan? It don't smell that bad heh?"

Stan - "Yeah, I agree"

Do you guys remember the narrative when Campbell was sent down? The media was saying Skinner will perform better knowing he is the go to number 1. What a mental midget

I’m not the biggest Skinner fan. But I’d say you are undervaluing him. He has his ups and downs and his fancies are ugly. But Skinner typically has much better basic stats (sv% and GAA) than Vejmelka. Sure the teams affect can explain those numbers. But then you add in that Skinner is still under control on a very reasonable contract next year and Vejmelka is a UFA at the end of the season. I don’t think we would be the team adding in a swap. Plus, I think if Vejmelka is the target, it’s to play alongside Skinner.

GAA and save% is a team stat. Goals saved above expected is purely a goalie stat- and Skinner sucks

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Do you guys remember the narrative when Campbell was sent down? The media was saying Skinner will perform better knowing he is the go to number 1. What a mental midget

I don't even think this is an overreaction, as long as ANA retains and you don't overpay, but go get this f*****. He will outperform Stuart. Show him who's daddy (I would give ANA Skinner personally). Keep Pickard as the backup and we are rollllllin

Instructions are 10x more clear than a Ikea booklet. Lets see if these bozos know how to put it together.

 

[foshizzle]

What would you think of us adding Oleksiak if we are going to play Nurse and Kulak together? Or Murphy if we also get Donato in the same deal?

Could Oleksiak insulate Klingberg? Could Murphy help settle Nurse's game down?

Oleksiuk can’t insulate Oleksiuk right now. He has been brutal. And a guy that size average less than 1 hit a game tells you all you need to know about him

 

[foshizzle]

And as I heavily sold for the year and a half prior, keeping Broberg happy was a risky proposition that started with us moving on from Brett Kulak. The rope-a-dope usage with him over the years wore out the relationship with the organization.

McLeod turned up roses for the franchise. He was a highly productive 2nd round pick that played solid NHL minutes and was traded for a borderline blue chip prospect winger.

Holland's process of slow-cooking prospects is solid in theory. But it isn't realistic for guys with big draft pedigree. That's millions of dollars in potential earnings that Broberg is foregoing because the team trusts a veteran more to play a tertiary role.

Holland’s “over-ripening” of prospects was just him not knowing how to manage his assets.