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So, I was listening to the Seravalli segment on Oilersnation on the ride to work this morning and he brought up two names or actually it was more like the guys bringing up the names to him and he expanded on it.

Anyway, the two names were Oleksiak and Murphy and he was talking about it taking a 1st+ especially in Murphy's case with retention to land him because he has an extra year of term. Murphy would be a solid addition no doubt but I can't be the only one uninterested in giving that up for him.
Pettersson is a slightly better version of Murphy and went for a 1st as a rental so it's plausible especially at a retained number but just seems like a lot for Murphy.

He also poured cold water on the Marchand thing saying it's highly unlikely that Boston trades him and keep in mind he speculated a while back that Rantanen could be on the trade block so when Frank talks, listen.
 
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CupofOil said:
So, I was listening to the Seravalli segment on Oilersnation on the ride to work this morning and he brought up two names or actually it was more like the guys bringing up the names to him and he expanded on it.

Anyway, the two names were Oleksiak and Murphy and he was talking about it taking a 1st+ especially in Murphy's case with retention to land him because he has an extra year of term. Murphy would be a solid addition no doubt but I can't be the only one uninterested in giving that up for him.
Pettersson is a slightly better version of Murphy and went for a 1st as a rental so it's plausible especially at a retained number but just seems like a lot for Murphy.

He also poured cold water on the Marchand thing saying it's highly unlikely that Boston trades him and keep in mind he speculated a while back that Rantanen could be on the trade block so when Frank talks, listen.
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I like the idea of Murphy at $2.2M on the cap, but not for a first ideally. You're spot on.

I actually like Soucy more than either of those guys, but that would probably have to be a 3-way deal
 
Jimmi McJenkins said:
I like the idea of Murphy at $2.2M on the cap, but not for a first ideally. You're spot on.

I actually like Soucy more than either of those guys, but that would probably have to be a 3-way deal
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Yeah agreed. I think he'd help and really fits a need with physicality and at 2.2m is a steal but I'm uncomfortable with him being the all in move but getting him at 2.2m gives the Oilers flexibility to still address a need elsewhere (top 9 forward?) so from that standpoint it would be a decent move but I'm just kind of meh on it. Don't really like the fit with Nurse either, like Nurse better with a swifter skating puckmover.

Speak of Soucy, Seravalli said the Oilers had interest in him but not so much anymore as he's had a down year in Vancouver.
 
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CupofOil said:
Anyway, the two names were Oleksiak and Murphy and he was talking about it taking a 1st+ especially in Murphy's case with retention to land him because he has an extra year of term. Murphy would be a solid addition no doubt but I can't be the only one uninterested in giving that up for him.
Pettersson is a slightly better version of Murphy and went for a 1st as a rental so it's plausible especially at a retained number but just seems like a lot for Murphy.
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Huh, what do you know, as the options decrease prices increase. Who could have predicted that?

Anyway, I would do our 2026 1st for Murphy (50%) and Donato. That’s two useful pieces, one with a smidge of term. Donato could end up being worth that by himself terms of impact, lots of ways to use him in our middle six.

Unfortunately if that seems like a lot, wait until we have wasted more time being John Klingberg’s personal rehab program. A 1st for Soucy will seem like a great deal by that point.
 
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Whoshattenkirkshoes said:
I'm hoping this does not give the management the idea we do not need to get a top player.
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The Oilers are highly unlikely to get a top player. It's more than likely to be a middle 6 forward or #4/5 Dman similar to Kulak. They're a top 3 team, they don't need a top player to put them over the top and don't really have the resources tbh to land a top player so I think expectations should be tempered if that's the expectation.
 
Soundwave said:
I think it's more that the loss of Landeskog (and to a lesser extent a 70+ point Kadri) has left big holes that they've never quite recovered from, but that '22 team was a wagon because of how deep they were able to stack the roster.

Nothing you can do about Landeskog and they were probably right to move on from Kadri given his age.
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70 point Kadri?

Didn't he have like 95 points the year they won the cup? Of course it was his career year, and he was never going to replicate it again, but any team that loses that kind of production without replacing it, is never going to be the same.
 
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CupofOil said:
So, I was listening to the Seravalli segment on Oilersnation on the ride to work this morning and he brought up two names or actually it was more like the guys bringing up the names to him and he expanded on it.

Anyway, the two names were Oleksiak and Murphy and he was talking about it taking a 1st+ especially in Murphy's case with retention to land him because he has an extra year of term. Murphy would be a solid addition no doubt but I can't be the only one uninterested in giving that up for him.
Pettersson is a slightly better version of Murphy and went for a 1st as a rental so it's plausible especially at a retained number but just seems like a lot for Murphy.

He also poured cold water on the Marchand thing saying it's highly unlikely that Boston trades him and keep in mind he speculated a while back that Rantanen could be on the trade block so when Frank talks, listen.
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I could see giving up a first if there was another player coming back with Murphy that management had identified as bring able to help the team. Like if Donato or Kurashev had a place in our lineup.
 
Sheikyerbouti said:
Oilers have handled Philp's development well this year. Brought up at the perfect time and not he gets a few weeks to focus in the AHL with Ryan as a mentor.


I will never forgive Jackson for this offseason but the non GM stuff he has done, Kalle in development, Knob, Pracey, and even bowman hiring, I think have moved us forward.



I know people hate Bowman, but it's hard to find plug and play value like Podz and emberson. He has shown he has the ability we need the most.
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Bowman was a big part of the offer sheet decision. That shit splashed on him as well.
 
Dobson is having a terrible year and is still living off a 30 game sample from last year in which he excelled. That being said, he still is a very good top 4 Dman who probably will cost a lot to acquire, but I don't see him as making more than 7 mill on the cap, which is nothing long term. The only reason he doesn't get ragged on more is because nobody watches Isles games.

Also, rumor is Brayden Schenn is on the block. 6.5 mill for his 33-36 year old seasons seems steep. He's talented but we need speed and youth, which he doesn't provide. If we could move out Henrique and get Schenn retained at the 3C I'd do it. but no use adding another geezer to this roster if we can help it.
 
My order of priority for the trade Deadline.

1) 1B goaltender - this is an absolute must. Someone who is hungry to steal games from Stu. Let's find our Ayden Hill.

2) Depth defender - someone who is a solid #5. It's not crucial now, but it's necessary for a long playoff run. If We have an injury in the top 4, or Klingberg doesn't cut it - Kulak can move up, and this player can confidently play with Emberson. an LD makes the most sense.

3) Physical bottom six forward - Someone who adds some jam for the playoffs, preferably with a scoring touch to their game.

4) Top 6 scoring forward - Technically, I think this is our 2nd biggest need, but I think the cost for the type of player we need here could amount to the same as acquiring all three above. Let's pray we can keep Skinner moving in the right direction and that Kane returns with a scoring touch.
 
Mr Positive said:
I do not understand the idea that we need another D even if Klingberg works out. Emberson and Stecher are solid depth D, and Kulak can play in the top 4 if need be. Adding a D with term makes no sense to me. But yes, by the deadline things could change. Klingberg looks like his skills and skating are better than ever. By the deadline we might be talking about saving future cap space to re-sign him, not adding Murphy or Oleksiak to be overpaid on the 3rd pair

Also we are in a similar situation as Kane. He is our top nine addition. Again, we'll see by the deadline.

That's music to my ears that this is a prime year to add a goalie. I don't think Frank's comments put cold water on the idea. He says he doesn't know either way
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Fair points.
I am not really a fan of Stecher though...he is too small...gets pushed around on the cycle and net front.
I wouldnt want anything more than spot duty for him in the playoffs even Knoblauc decides to go with 7 D,
Hopefully Klingberg continues to improve enough to be a steady #4 dman. That would be huge.

Then the pairings are...

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Klingberg
Emberson - Kulak

Im fine with that and then the team can focus on some functional heaviness in the bottom 6...preferably at center.
The secondary scoring is a major concern though...that needs to improve.
 
GhostfaceWu said:
Dobson and bouchard rfa in the same year would be terrible though
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I think it's workable, with excellent management. But with how they lost 2 rfa's last year, I think they decide it's not worth it based on cost to acquire and possibility of losing one even if they could get picks back from an offer sheet.

Looks like we have around 75 million tied up next year. Trade Kane and that goes to 70. With a 97m cap, that gives us 27 million to play with. Give Bouch/Dobson both 9m, leaves you with 9 million to find 4 fwds and a re-sign Emberson. I also think Arvy would be up Lou's alley, as it sounds like they want some scoring fwds. So ~11.5 for us to go out and get 5 fwds with emberson re-signed at 1.5, but no second line fwds. Would be amazing if Savoie/Podz could fill those spots, but even if they dont, we got RV/Skinner for 7. Repeat that and you have 4.5 with the only needs being bottom 6 wingers.

Even if you don't move Arvidsson, maybe you decide Kulak/Emberson are luxuries you don't need if you have essentially 2 pairings that can play 23 minutes a night in Ek/Bouch and Nurse/Dobson.

Trade 2 firsts, Arvidsson, and Akey for Dobson and call your defense set until the wheels fall off Ekholm. Maybe Buffalo wants in on the action, and some of that goes for Cozens who goes to NYI. Leaves you with a 2nd and later picks for a Donato type to replace Arvy.
 
CupofOil said:
The Oilers are highly unlikely to get a top player. It's more than likely to be a middle 6 forward or #4/5 Dman similar to Kulak. They're a top 3 team, they don't need a top player to put them over the top and don't really have the resources tbh to land a top player so I think expectations should be tempered if that's the expectation.
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I disagree. It's a must win year for multiple reasons and we have the cap space for once.

The whole point of getting Klingberg was to be able to use the trade assets have not on a top 4 D. It wasn't to save our trade assets.

I do agree we may not get a top player, but if we just add a Drew O'Connor type and depth #7 LHD that will be another deadline that I score C-
 
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Mcnotloilersfan said:
My order of priority for the trade Deadline.

1) 1B goaltender - this is an absolute must. Someone who is hungry to steal games from Stu. Let's find our Ayden Hill.

2) Depth defender - someone who is a solid #5. It's not crucial now, but it's necessary for a long playoff run. If We have an injury in the top 4, or Klingberg doesn't cut it - Kulak can move up, and this player can confidently play with Emberson. an LD makes the most sense.

3) Physical bottom six forward - Someone who adds some jam for the playoffs, preferably with a scoring touch to their game.

4) Top 6 scoring forward - Technically, I think this is our 2nd biggest need, but I think the cost for the type of player we need here could amount to the same as acquiring all three above. Let's pray we can keep Skinner moving in the right direction and that Kane returns with a scoring touch.
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I agree on 1 but that would mean Pickard is gone and right now he might be better than Skinner. No chance Skinner gets moved. Don't see us running 3 goalies.

I think we need another Left Shot Defensemen. Any injuries on the left and we are screwed.

Yes to more grit in the bottom 6.

Need another middle 6. Left wing especially if Kane is not coming back. We have to get more scoring from the 3rd line.
 
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