Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Good news. Likely means they're going to stick with McDrai/Nuge/Henrique down the middle.

That's my guess, or might acquire someone too.

You clearly don't know the player if you are comparing him to Ceci, his defense took a hit this season playing a more offensive role playing with Erik "No Defense" Karlsson and old man Letang, but this is a very capable and solid d-man.

I mean I guess, it seems the Nucks have solved hockey with this deal.

He seems to be solid player, but, again, I suspect they'll look to move him next year or the year after, as they do.

 

[K1984]

Who needs facts lmao? Ceci = Pettersson which is a dig apparently... but then I bet the same group was screaming that Cody was a perfectly good top four D who didn't an upgrade each of the three seasons prior because Stauffer was telling them as such. Typical.

This is laughably untrue. But if it helps you feel smarter than everyone else such that it justifies the ranting and raving - go for it.

 

[belair]

I'd like to see Klingberg go down to the farm for the 2 week break to work on his timing, and game speed.
Some big minutes down there on PP1 & PK1 would be very beneficial, for when the NHL starts up again.

He wouldn't clear waivers.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He wouldn't clear waivers.

Yes, absolutely no chance he clears.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

No surprise the Blues are floating him out there. Last game did not look impressive outside of the tackles and hits from behind. He's looking cooked. 33 with 3 yrs left at $6.5M is rough.



Agreed with Rono

 

[Tarus]

Probably means they're looking at adding another player soon via trade

Unlikely. It's more likely that they are sending him down for the two week break to get more playing time and games

He's already been pressboxed for 2 of the last 3 games and probably wouldn't have gotten into the Colorado game, and is only playing 7 - 8 minutes a night even when he is getting in.

 

[McDoused]

Oilers should just hire you. You seem to be the authority on where everybody ranks.

I would consider going back if they paid me accordingly.

 

[Canovin]

Unlikely. It's more likely that they are sending him down for the two week break to get more playing time and games

He's already been pressboxed for 2 of the last 3 games and probably wouldn't have gotten into the Colorado game, and is only playing 7 - 8 minutes a night even when he is getting in.

The forward lineup is already set until the deadline or a trade. I don't see Philp coming back up unless there's injuries. Henrique would be a hell of a 4C as well. A trade for a top 6 player makes the most sense as it would push Kapanen out of the lineup.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

The Philp move is nothing more than getting him games during the break and allowing the Oilers to start accruing cap space for a couple of weeks.

He’ll be back up after the 4 Nations

 

[samiam]

He wouldn't clear waivers.

Not even for a conditioning stint?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Not even for a conditioning stint?

A conditioning Stint isn't waivers, I would be curious if they consider this over the break. That's a good idea.

 

[McDoused]

When I saw that Arvidsson was replacing Nuge on the top line, my initial thought was that the Oilers want to have someone that will shoot the puck more than Nuge. Here is what I found, last year between McDavid, Hyman and Nuge, they had 736 shots for 104 goals with an average of 14.13 Shooting %.

If we look at this year so far, here are the actual results from those same 3 players.

Note that the combined shooting percentage from all 3 players has only dropped 0.2% since last year. The largest decrease from last year's shooting percentage is Hyman who went from 18.62% down to 13.19%. Part of this is to be expected but what's interesting is that both McDavid and Nugent-Hopkins have seen their shooting % increase this year.

If we pro-rate the rest of the year (assuming all 3 players play the remaining 28 games) we can see that despite the shooting % remaining relatively the same, the total number of goals has dropped by 16.

As you can see the trio will have played basically the same number of games (234 instead of 236) but the shot total have gone done by 107 and the number of goals have gone done by 16.

McDavid is averaging 0.34 less shots per game this year.
Nuge is averaging 0.25 less shots per game this year.
Hyman is averaging 0.69 less shots per game this year.

The TLDR is that if the top line of RNH-McDavid-Hyman isn't shooting the puck enough as a group.

So even Nuge has seen the smallest variance since last year, he is still the lowest number of shots / game out of the three. Although Arvidsson is having a down year in shooting % this year (only 7.4%) he actually averages about 0.4 more shots per game than Nuge.

 

[FlameChampion]

Good news. Likely means they're going to stick with McDrai/Nuge/Henrique down the middle.

Or Janmark

Or they just want him playing during the break and off the cap

 

[soothsayer]

No surprise the Blues are floating him out there. Last game did not look impressive outside of the tackles and hits from behind. He's looking cooked. 33 with 3 yrs left at $6.5M is rough.



Agreed with Rono

The Pulock plan is coming together.

 

[Heavy Dee]

The Philp move is nothing more than getting him games during the break and allowing the Oilers to start accruing cap space for a couple of weeks.

He’ll be back up after the 4 Nations

Not so sure. He would have been scratched for 3 straight if Henrique wasn't sick. I think they want more sandpaper in his game.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

When I saw that Arvidsson was replacing Nuge on the top line, my initial thought was that the Oilers want to have someone that will shoot the puck more than Nuge. Here is what I found, last year between McDavid, Hyman and Nuge, they had 736 shots for 104 goals with an average of 14.13 Shooting %.

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If we look at this year so far, here are the actual results from those same 3 players.

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Note that the combined shooting percentage from all 3 players has only dropped 0.2% since last year. The largest decrease from last year's shooting percentage is Hyman who went from 18.62% down to 13.19%. Part of this is to be expected but what's interesting is that both McDavid and Nugent-Hopkins have seen their shooting % increase this year.

If we pro-rate the rest of the year (assuming all 3 players play the remaining 28 games) we can see that despite the shooting % remaining relatively the same, the total number of goals has dropped by 16.

View attachment 973532

As you can see the trio will have played basically the same number of games (234 instead of 236) but the shot total have gone done by 107 and the number of goals have gone done by 16.

McDavid is averaging 0.34 less shots per game this year.
Nuge is averaging 0.25 less shots per game this year.
Hyman is averaging 0.69 less shots per game this year.

The TLDR is that if the top line of RNH-McDavid-Hyman isn't shooting the puck enough as a group.

So even Nuge has seen the smallest variance since last year, he is still the lowest number of shots / game out of the three. Although Arvidsson is having a down year in shooting % this year (only 7.4%) he actually averages about 0.4 more shots per game than Nuge.

Man, you deserve more than two acknowledgements on this. Nice work.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

29 games left. Skinner and Arvid are starting to turn their games around. Still lots of time

I'm hoping this does not give the management the idea we do not need to get a top player.

 

[McDoused]

Man, you deserve more than two acknowledgements on this. Nice work.

Thanks buddy. I dont do it for the likes but I appreciate the positive feedback.

Its worth noting that McDavid (36th), Hyman (44th), Draisaitl (8th) and Bouchard (21st) are all in the top 50 in total shots in the NHL.

So it's not like we don't consistently outshoot our opponents and lack shot attempts overall. However that top line isn't shooting the puck as much as they didn't last year. I haven't gotten into the numbers but I wonder what the difference is specifically on the powerplay.

 

[ManofSteel55]

With how deep we already are down the middle, how effective will he be without Larmer or Secord flanking him? It's an intriguing option, but I feel we need to look at filling other areas of weakness before going too far with this one.

I think he might be a bit past his prime by a year or two too.

 

[foshizzle]

He wouldn't clear waivers.

He can be sent down on a conditioning stint

When I saw that Arvidsson was replacing Nuge on the top line, my initial thought was that the Oilers want to have someone that will shoot the puck more than Nuge. Here is what I found, last year between McDavid, Hyman and Nuge, they had 736 shots for 104 goals with an average of 14.13 Shooting %.

View attachment 973522

If we look at this year so far, here are the actual results from those same 3 players.

View attachment 973521

Note that the combined shooting percentage from all 3 players has only dropped 0.2% since last year. The largest decrease from last year's shooting percentage is Hyman who went from 18.62% down to 13.19%. Part of this is to be expected but what's interesting is that both McDavid and Nugent-Hopkins have seen their shooting % increase this year.

If we pro-rate the rest of the year (assuming all 3 players play the remaining 28 games) we can see that despite the shooting % remaining relatively the same, the total number of goals has dropped by 16.

View attachment 973532

As you can see the trio will have played basically the same number of games (234 instead of 236) but the shot total have gone done by 107 and the number of goals have gone done by 16.

McDavid is averaging 0.34 less shots per game this year.
Nuge is averaging 0.25 less shots per game this year.
Hyman is averaging 0.69 less shots per game this year.

The TLDR is that if the top line of RNH-McDavid-Hyman isn't shooting the puck enough as a group.

So even Nuge has seen the smallest variance since last year, he is still the lowest number of shots / game out of the three. Although Arvidsson is having a down year in shooting % this year (only 7.4%) he actually averages about 0.4 more shots per game than Nuge.

Like

 

[foshizzle]

Listening to Stauffer before I had to turn it off when he started talking about Danielle Smith being the only politician who fights for Alberta- he mentioned Rantanen.

What he said was “he is throwing a curveball” he quoted the time 5:47- and then proceeded to say that last year when Carolina traded for Guentzal - they got burnt when he didn’t re-sign. Would Carolina trade Rantanen if they couldn’t re-sign him before the deadline. Obviously he is hinting at the possibility of Edmonton. Staples poured cold water on that idea saying Edmonton wouldn’t have the assets - Stauffer countered with a lot depends on the player.

Anyways- thought I’d throw this out there. A whole lot of nothing- but fun to dream about

 

[McDNicks17]

He can be sent down on a conditioning stint

I don't think they'd get away with that now.

From the CBA: "The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a Conditioning Loan. If the Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the Conditioning Loan to evade Waivers, or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action against the Club, as he deems appropriate."

I think it'd be pretty tough to argue that it wouldn't only be done to evade waivers.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Let me stop you right there, you can probably stop inventing random all-stars. Pettersson seems to be a solid top-4 guy, and brings some offense, but maybe, just maybe, he's not a $5.5M game breaker the Nucks will try to trade in a year or 2 when the get bored(?) of him.

Your inferiority complex related to the 3rd best team in the entire league is f***ing bizarre.

You should prob hit him with one of your brilliant proposals

 

[Soundwave]

Jamie Oleksiak's name doesn't come up much but I wonder if it should.

 

[Mr Positive]

I don't think they'd get away with that now.

From the CBA: "The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a Conditioning Loan. If the Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the Conditioning Loan to evade Waivers, or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action against the Club, as he deems appropriate."

I think it'd be pretty tough to argue that it wouldn't only be done to evade waivers.

I agree. We definitely couldn't put Klingberg on a conditioning stint after playing NHL games and doing well. At least, I can't recall that happening before