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Marchand is having the worst "fancy stats" year of his entire career this year (outside of his rookie year). I know he is still putting up points this year, but 25% of his points are PP points, and he wouldn't sniff the PP on the Oilers. His metrics are tanking, he is 36 years old, and he is relying on the PP for point production. I would be quite hesitant to give up anything of real worth for this version of Marchand. Not saying he can't help, but he isn't anything close to the player he was a few years ago.
 
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Canovin said:
Most GMs would have signed Skinner. Who doesn't want an extra 20 goals added to the team? This is on Knob to sort things out or bend some rules. You try and get the best out of your players regardless of warts.
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In hindsight you give into Holloways demands and leave Skinner to sign elsewhere. Having said that, it's easy to look back and say that with the seasons each player is having. Prior to this season, Holloway had injury concerns and only scored 9 regular season goals in his career, while Skinner was a lock for 20.
 
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KeithIsActuallyBad said:
After not playing hockey for basically a year I don't think we should expect him to hit the ground running. It's also not like he lit the world on fire last playoffs.
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You mean the last playoffs where he had a hard time sitting on the bench and had to stand most of the time?

McJadeddog said:
Marchand is having the worst "fancy stats" year of his entire career this year (outside of his rookie year). I know he is still putting up points this year, but 25% of his points are PP points, and he wouldn't sniff the PP on the Oilers. His metrics are tanking, he is 36 years old, and he is relying on the PP for point production. I would be quite hesitant to give up anything of real worth for this version of Marchand. Not saying he can't help, but he isn't anything close to the player he was a few years ago.
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25% of your points being powerplay points isn’t very high for a top line forward

CanadasTeam99 said:
If this was Canucks gm, arvidsson and skinner are probably jettisoned already somehow. He has traded away alot of his ufa signings, which also shows he made bad moves getting the in the first place lol
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Trading away players that signed there after 30 games is a great way to have UFA’s not want to deal with you
 
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Evander Kane + Arvidsson + EDM 1st 2026 + 3rd round pick for John Gibson @40% retained + Brian Dumolin + Robby Fabbri

Klim Kostin for 5th and 6th round pick (5th to a team retaining 1/2 his salary).

Fabbri McDavid Hyman
RNH Draisaitl Skinner
Kap Henrique Podkolzin
Perry Janmark Brown

Kostin Philp Ryan

Ekholm Bouchard
Nurse Dumolin
Kulak Klingberg
Emberson

Gibson
Skinner
Pickard

We're held back a bit by the fact that we did some stupid things last summer. Dumolin has played the right side before in Pittsburgh and is a 2 time Cup winner, he should be able to slot in here without much of a fuss.

Fabbri is just a roll of the dice. Arvidsson has not worked out here thus far, Fabbri is a younger player who has had some 20 goal pace seasons in the past. He's also apparently friends with McDavid, not that that makes a big difference but it's a nice bonus I guess.
 
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Tobias Kahun said:
You mean the last playoffs where he had a hard time sitting on the bench and had to stand most of the time?


25% of your points being powerplay points isn’t very high for a top line forward


Trading away players that signed there after 30 games is a great way to have UFA’s not want to deal with you
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Yeah kane was injured most of the year and bigtime in the playoffs

Really sucked him and drai were injured rendering them useless. Drai sometime at the end of Vancouver series he got injured in that series.

Kane was mangled alot of the year which he's described

Tobias Kahun said:
You mean the last playoffs where he had a hard time sitting on the bench and had to stand most of the time?


25% of your points being powerplay points isn’t very high for a top line forward


Trading away players that signed there after 30 games is a great way to have UFA’s not want to deal with you
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I don't think it would. Let's see if it does with Vancouver

They traded away sprong deharnais and heinen (hometown guy). He doesn't give two shits. Now Marcus Pettersson, a great trade, is about to sign a long term extension. Doesn't seem scared to sign

Players are smart. If you suck you might not stick around

We always just seem so stuck to players. Last one I was surprised at was when we traded Barrie away, but it was for ekholm
 
McJadeddog said:
Marchand is having the worst "fancy stats" year of his entire career this year (outside of his rookie year). I know he is still putting up points this year, but 25% of his points are PP points, and he wouldn't sniff the PP on the Oilers. His metrics are tanking, he is 36 years old, and he is relying on the PP for point production. I would be quite hesitant to give up anything of real worth for this version of Marchand. Not saying he can't help, but he isn't anything close to the player he was a few years ago.
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To be fair, he's also not playing with any drivers, and is expected to be the driver on his line which is probably past him at this point. The Bruins are an offensive black hole generally.

I think he would be extremely effective riding shotgun with Leon. After Pasternak he's the next guy in the pecking order expected to drive offence and that just isn't him anymore. Playing with a superstar is different.
 
Soundwave said:
Evander Kane + Arvidsson + EDM 1st 2026 + 3rd round pick for John Gibson @40% retained + Brian Dumolin + Robby Fabbri

Klim Kostin for 5th and 6th round pick (5th to a team retaining 1/2 his salary).

Fabbri McDavid Hyman
RNH Draisaitl Skinner
Kap Henrique Podkolzin
Perry Janmark Brown

Kostin Philp Ryan

Ekholm Bouchard
Nurse Dumolin
Kulak Klingberg
Emberson

Gibson
Skinner
Pickard

We're held back a bit by the fact that we did some stupid things last summer. Dumolin has played the right side before in Pittsburgh and is a 2 time Cup winner, he should be able to slot in here without much of a fuss.

Fabbri is just a roll of the dice. Arvidsson has not worked out here thus far, Fabbri is a younger player who has had some 20 goal pace seasons in the past. He's also apparently friends with McDavid, not that that makes a big difference but it's a nice bonus I guess.
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Dumoulin stinks. He's not replacing Emberson at this point. Fabbri also kinda stinks and he's 29. There's very little there to unlock.

I also don't see the sense in giving up assets for a healthy scratch.
 
Put. Skinner. In. The. Top. Six.

Jesus Christ. He's got the sixth most goals on the team and the dude doesn't play. He had a rough start to the year but his defence has been fine since, he's clearly working hard and not pouting, what more do they want from him. It seems so obvious to go McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge down the middle, especially with Perry playing so well.

I'm not willing to write off either him or Arvidsson. I think Skinner pots 20 if he gets elevated in the lineup, and Arvidsson's S% will bounce back. I think Arvidsson especially will breakout in the playoffs.
 
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ChaoticOrange said:
Dumoulin stinks. He's not replacing Emberson at this point. Fabbri also kinda stinks and he's 29. There's very little there to unlock.

I also don't see the sense in giving up assets for a healthy scratch.
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Yeah they may not be slam dunk adds, but they're are more bonuses, Gibson is the main add.

Anaheim is eating quite a bit of salary here and getting us out of the Kane and Arvidsson deals in the process, it's not like that doesn't have a fair bit of value for us.

The team needed to do a better job of not whiffing on so many adds last summer if you wanted a sexier roster, at this point you kinda have to make due as is. Fabbri has scored at a 20+ goal rate the previous three seasons before this one, maybe a different look there works better for us because Arvidsson isn't working.

Dumolin isn't a sexy add but he is a no-nonsense meat and potatoes veteran D with lots of playoff/Finals experience who can likely fit in fine with Coffey/Knob's system.

Probably would have been nice if we could have snagged Saad for free.
 
Soundwave said:
Yeah they may not be slam dunk adds, but they're are more bonuses, Gibson is the main add.

Anaheim is eating quite a bit of salary here and getting us out of the Kane and Arvidsson deals in the process, it's not like that doesn't have a fair bit of value for us.

The team needed to do a better job of not whiffing on so many adds last summer if you wanted a sexier roster, at this point you kinda have to make due as is. Fabbri has scored at a 20+ goal rate the previous three seasons before this one, maybe a different look there works better for us because Arvidsson isn't working.

Probably would have been nice if we could have snagged Saad for free.
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Adding bad players isn't a bonus, it's a detriment.

Fabbri can score, but he can't play defence. At all. Not even a lick. We've already got Skinner filling that role. Arvidsson isn't scoring as much as anyone would like but he's not a detriment out there. Fabbri is a downgrade on him.

Get Gibson, by all means, but limit the deal to him. Anaheim doesn't have much else I want. Look how Henrique and Carrick worked out.
 
Arpeggio said:
Put. Skinner. In. The. Top. Six.

Jesus Christ. He's got the sixth most goals on the team and the dude doesn't play. He had a rough start to the year but his defence has been fine since, he's clearly working hard and not pouting, what more do they want from him. It seems so obvious to go McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge down the middle, especially with Perry playing so well.

I'm not willing to write off either him or Arvidsson. I think Skinner pots 20 if he gets elevated in the lineup, and Arvidsson's S% will bounce back. I think Arvidsson especially will breakout in the playoffs.
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It seems pretty clear at this point that for whatever reason Knob isn't willing to give Skinner a shot next to McDavid or Draisaitl.

To me it doesn't make sense to not at least try it before the playoffs start. We have 82 games to figure out our best lineup and we're doing a disservice to ourselves by not at least seeing how Skinner would do in that situation. His increase in production could very easily outweigh the negatives he brings with his supposed lack of defensive ability.
 
ChaoticOrange said:
Adding bad players isn't a bonus, it's a detriment.

Fabbri can score, but he can't play defence. At all. Not even a lick. We've already got Skinner filling that role. Arvidsson isn't scoring as much as anyone would like but he's not a detriment out there. Fabbri is a downgrade on him.

Get Gibson, by all means, but limit the deal to him. Anaheim doesn't have much else I want. Look how Henrique and Carrick worked out.
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I'd be OK with Gibson + Dumolin.

We have to be somewhat realistic here though we don't have like a ton of 1sts to throw around, we don't even have a 1st for the immediate coming draft and Jeff Jackson made some big errors last summer, probably not everything can be patched up.

We made due in last year's run without a perfect roster, probably gonna just have to do it again.

Dumolin is better than Ceci or Desharnais that we managed with last year, knows what playing deep into the playoffs is all about, is 6'4, can play both sides. Probably not going to knock one's socks off but can play in Knob/Coffey's system likely with no fuss.
 
Arpeggio said:
Put. Skinner. In. The. Top. Six.

Jesus Christ. He's got the sixth most goals on the team and the dude doesn't play. He had a rough start to the year but his defence has been fine since, he's clearly working hard and not pouting, what more do they want from him. It seems so obvious to go McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge down the middle, especially with Perry playing so well.

I'm not willing to write off either him or Arvidsson. I think Skinner pots 20 if he gets elevated in the lineup, and Arvidsson's S% will bounce back. I think Arvidsson especially will breakout in the playoffs.
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Also unstack the top line please. Having only one line that can score isn't something that works in the long term. Never mind that they suck on the defensive side of the puck.
 
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Long shot here, but maybe the reason the lines are all twisted up is that they want to see what a 4th line looks like as:
Podkolzin Janmark Brown

If Klingberg works out (and that will be a gamble) Maybe we are looking at adding another top 6 winger. No way Perry stays in the top 6
 
Soundwave said:
Evander Kane + Arvidsson + EDM 1st 2026 + 3rd round pick for John Gibson @40% retained + Brian Dumolin + Robby Fabbri

Klim Kostin for 5th and 6th round pick (5th to a team retaining 1/2 his salary).

Fabbri McDavid Hyman
RNH Draisaitl Skinner
Kap Henrique Podkolzin
Perry Janmark Brown

Kostin Philp Ryan

Ekholm Bouchard
Nurse Dumolin
Kulak Klingberg
Emberson

Gibson
Skinner
Pickard

We're held back a bit by the fact that we did some stupid things last summer. Dumolin has played the right side before in Pittsburgh and is a 2 time Cup winner, he should be able to slot in here without much of a fuss.

Fabbri is just a roll of the dice. Arvidsson has not worked out here thus far, Fabbri is a younger player who has had some 20 goal pace seasons in the past. He's also apparently friends with McDavid, not that that makes a big difference but it's a nice bonus I guess.
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You need to be carful how much change you make to a roster. Chemistry and locker room is very important.

Also we need to stop taking Emberson out of the line up. IMO he plays ALL DAY LONG over Klingberg
 
Bryanbryoil said:
Kind of like how Holloway hadn't proven anything? The smart play is to add young guys that can play so that we add speed and youthful exuberance to a vet laden team.
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You are right that maybe trading Savoie isn't the smartest, but this has nothing to do with Holloway.

I just want young assets out the door to upgrade the team and will be upset if we just add a 4th line guy.


Cup or Bust
 
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