Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | With Klingberg in the Mix Who Are Our 7D After the Deadline?

[Mcnotloilersfan]

NGL I don't quite get this from the Avs perspective. Even if Rantanen signs at Draisaitl money, their big 3 will cost roughly what our big 3 will cost and the cap will keep skyrocketing.

You can't worry about Mackinnon's feelings here. He signed his contracts. He's won his cup and his individual awards. Does he want to keep winning, or just be known as the highest paid forward on his team?

 

[VeteranPresence]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

 

[AlbOilFAN]

I like this Rantanen trade even more now because it eliminates a trade partner for the Canucks and might diminish whatever return Vancouver gets for Miller/Petersson.

I think Colorado will go after Miller or Pettersson

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

Oilers don't need to make a panic trade like those other teams. May as well just keep humming along and waiting for something better to shake loose closer to the deadline.

 

[CupofOil]

Saw the Rantanen news late last night and my jaw dropped. I don't remember when the last time a player this good was traded, just one of those trades that you always remember when it happened. I know he was an impending UFA but it's still shocking.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

I like how you're acting like the Avs have currently made their team better with the Rantanen deal. I also love the cherry picked dates. Don't be one of those people who acts like every move that was made by a team not named the Oilers is a fail.

We have yet to see what impact Klingberg will have. Bowman made solid deals to acquire Podz and Emberson. He was active on bringing Kapanen and Klingberg for free. He hasn;t made his big deadline moves yet. Give him time.

I also don't get how people complain about the Oilers at the deadline. In the past few years they've brought in

Kane, Kulak, Ekholm, Perry, Henrique and now Klingberg. That's pretty darn active.

 

[jlockhart89]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

So discounting the fact that 80% of this list of names got moved in 1 trade between two of these teams to accommodate both teams you’ve got a grand total of Blackwood and Klingberg.

Your also saying “another big name probably” with a hypothetical that hasn’t occurred yet but not giving the oilers the benefit of “another name probably” which is as much of a given as the Avs acquiring another player.

So after all this handwringing about our “inactivity” there was a grand total of two players acquired prior to yesterday nights trade and we were involved in one of those players, did you expect Bowman to just immediately respond with a rebuttal trade at midnight?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Buddy unironically thinks Klingberg's better

Klingbergs actual play is what he thinks bouchard plays like.

 

[jukon]

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Kotkaniemi for Pettersson maybe?? lol

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Klingbergs actual play is what he thinks bouchard plays like.

lol

 

[Oilslick941611]

I am confused by the Hall deal. A few weeks ago some posters had his value at a 2nd and 4th. If I am reading the trade right, the picks was for just the retention

Posters have no idea what players are worth. getting rid of hall was probably the goal of the blackhawks here. They save over 1 million of real money on this trade. Hall isn't an "asset" in the trade.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

so which goalie/D do you want trade Draisaitl for?


also all offBowmans pick ups have helped out this year. Setting the arbitrary dec 9th date is some serious cherry picking on your part.

 

[Bring Back Bucky]

Good, I'm glad the Hall dream is dead. Our obsession with picking up former Oilers like some sort of Pokemon is weird to me. Same to Klim, no interest in him.

I could have lived with Hall if the cost was right but the Kostin love I don’t get either.

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

I will take Bomans moves over Sakics 10 times out of 10.

 

[CupofOil]

I don't see why you wouldn't be upgrading on Emberson, effectively making Emberson the 7th D. He's not going anywhere, I don't think he'll be offended if he sits in the playoffs in his rookie season. If you can add a second pairing guy that PKs and is better than Emberson in all facets of the game, that's a win. Obviously it depends on how Klingberg works out who would come out of the lineup.

Emberson has played very well on the bottom pairing and is getting more confident as he gains more experience so why in the world would they take him out of the lineup?

 

[Paralyzer]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

Yeah. We didn't have to pay out of our noses for Klingberg. Free assets always win.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

Loool maybe we should trade Drai for peanuts and make you happy.

 

[Canovin]

Let's see how Rantanen produces in Carolina without MacKinnon and Makar.

The opposite can be said as well. Mackinnon was lost on his own until Rantanen showed up

 

[Fourier]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

How would this have looked to you?

Tulsky: Draisailt and J. Skinner

Bowman: Necas and Klingberg.

I take it that Bowman adding Necas and Klingberg would be better than just adding Klingberg or am I missing something here?

 

[belair]

Since December 9th:

Sakic: Necas, Blackwood, another big name probably (Miller? Jones?)

Tulsky: Rantanen and Hall

Bowman: Klingberg

One of these things is not like the other…

I'm sure that we'd have some pretty sick names, too if we decided to trade Leon Draisaitl. That's what the Avs just did.

 

[OilerTyler]

We’re third in the league in points percentage. What's the big rush to shake things up with a trade?

 

[McDrai]

Wow, what a surprising trade. I don’t really understand it from a Colorado point of view unless they have another trade lined up for an elite winger to play with Mack.

 

[Canovin]

Colorado got stronger down the middle but Mackinnon is going to have less space to do his thing with Rantanen gone

 

[Roof Daddy]

Wow, what a surprising trade. I don’t really understand it from a Colorado point of view unless they have another trade lined up for an elite winger to play with Mack.

No doubt Rantanen is the better player, but I don’t think the gap between him and Necas is as wide as most are making it out to be. Necas is only 9 points back of Rantanen and he hasn’t had the luxury of playing with a center like MacK or a Dman like Makar. For the majority of the year he’s played on a line with Kotkaniemi as his center. Even when he did get to play with Aho (which wasn’t that often outside of the PP), Aho isn’t anywhere near MacK’s talent level.

Necas can absolutely fly, which will be interesting to watch if he’s paired with MacK and Makar in 3 on 3 situations. I think they probably discussed what Necas long term ask is and dissected who brings better bang for buck. Rantanen might be better, but Rantanen @ 13+ vs Necas @9.5-10, I think I’m gonna take Necas. That 3 mil of extra cap space will go a long way in securing other talent.

If Necas gets a chance to play on MacK’s wing, I think he can put up the same numbers as Rantanen.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Mackinnon kind of a douche. I seriously wonder if they got rid of Rants to protect his inflated ego and keep him the highest paid on the team

 

[belair]

Davidson didn't know what Hall would fetch at the deadline nor did he weaponize his cap space.

Hall retained at the deadline should have been a second or third rounder.

Rantanen retained should have been a third or fourth rounder.

You're telling me Chicago needs to save actual dollars?

This is a massive fail on his part and its why his fan base is absolutely torching him right now.

He had a very good idea of what Hall would return. And regardless of what it was, it would've required them to retain. He would be worth zero at full clip, which is how he went to Carolina.

Retaining on Rantanen was exactly that: weaponizing their cap space. And in real cash, retaining half of Mikko Rantanen's deal cost the Hawks approximately $1,207,200. There is approximately $2,112,600 left on Taylor Hall's deal. So in real cash the Hawks saved about $905,400 in this trade and walked away with their own 3rd round pick.

The Hawks have an abundance of cap space. And doing what they just did made more of it.