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Oilslick941611 said:
To your point Brown was playing the last game and Skinner wont stay a healthy scratched or be waived.

As for Klingberg he hasnt played in two years, we dont know if still has those skills you talk about, he certainly didn't have them in Anaheim or Toronto and JD who played Klingberg said on Oilers nation that Klingberg may be big but he doesnt play that way.


Im just telling you where my thinking comes from, of course if we sign him, its 100% lets go Klingberg.
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He's low risk decent reward to add skill to this team's dcorp. To my point, the Oilers signed both Brown and Stetcher to multi-year deals that likely blunt waiver wire risk of being claimed. Brown's played 8 NHL games this season and the team is running a top 4 and protecting their #6 guys with limited exposure moving up Kulak into 2RD responsibilities in games.

Taking a chance to test-drive a proven NHL top four d-man is low risk. If he can step into #6 slotting adding better puck movement and potentially help reduce some minutes on Kulak, well worth the trial.
 
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Jimmi McJenkins said:
He's better at hockey than Josh Brown, that is absolutely enough right now.
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They're looking to upgrade their puck movement. That's Stetcher. Brown is a big, cycle breaker hard ice defender with toughness. Also penalty kills like he did last night. This would be a trial to get a bigger puck mover in preparation for hard playoff series hockey. Likely flexibility to move both Brown and Stetcher up and down based on their multi-year deals.

We'll see if the Klingberg smoke actually turns into anything. Just reinforces the d upgrade is priority 1.
 
jukon said:
I wonder if Klingberg will sign at league min with a NMC, lol
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Edmonton has the potential to give him the best opportunity to play into a fat contract next year somewhere and the possibility of the longest season (into a deep playoff run) to showcase his talents. But go ahead and chase money if you want.

He tried that once and failed miserably.
 
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Behind Enemy Lines said:
He's low risk decent reward to add skill to this team's dcorp. To my point, the Oilers signed both Brown and Stetcher to multi-year deals that likely blunt waiver wire risk of being claimed. Brown's played 8 NHL games this season and the team is running a top 4 and protecting their #6 guys with limited exposure moving up Kulak into 2RD responsibilities in games.

Taking a chance to test-drive a proven NHL top four d-man is low risk. If he can step into #6 slotting adding better puck movement and potentially help reduce some minutes on Kulak, well worth the trial.
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Well said.

You sign him to a low $, extol the potential of what he can show, how(world class teammates) and the runway he might have to do so, to chase that bigger $$ next contract. Anyone not understanding this is myopic including posters.
 
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Behind Enemy Lines said:
They're looking to upgrade their puck movement. That's Stetcher. Brown is a big, cycle breaker hard ice defender with toughness. Also penalty kills like he did last night. This would be a trial to get a bigger puck mover in preparation for hard playoff series hockey. Likely flexibility to move both Brown and Stetcher up and down based on their multi-year deals.

We'll see if the Klingberg smoke actually turns into anything. Just reinforces the d upgrade is priority 1.
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Why do you guys keep telling those weird stories about this mythical Josh Brown, he does none of that
 
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Behind Enemy Lines said:
I go by coaching usage and deployment. Lots of trust last night, 17 min toi and pk time. He is what he is a #7 d-man but Knoblauch obviously felt okay using him as a #4.
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He was fine last night, because the rest of the team was, he was generally useless everytime he hit the ice and Nurse had to overcome him. He's not an NHL player, the team is dramatically worse off everytime he dresses
 
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Behind Enemy Lines said:
They're looking to upgrade their puck movement. That's Stetcher. Brown is a big, cycle breaker hard ice defender with toughness. Also penalty kills like he did last night. This would be a trial to get a bigger puck mover in preparation for hard playoff series hockey. Likely flexibility to move both Brown and Stetcher up and down based on their multi-year deals.

We'll see if the Klingberg smoke actually turns into anything. Just reinforces the d upgrade is priority 1.
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Wait what, you're actually glazing Josh Brown?
He legitimately f***ing sucks. Should be buried in the AHL.
 
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McAsuno said:
Wait what, you're actually glazing Josh Brown?
He legitimately f***ing sucks. Should be buried in the AHL.
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The function they are looking to upgrade is puck movement. Brown was always going to be a #7 role player to deliver size, hard ice defending and functional toughness. The coach played him 17+ minutes last night including PK time. And that's after taking a dumb penalty in the first period.

He is what he is. And the Oilers are looking with Klingberg to upgrade puck moving and help support the 2RD hole that's being filled by Kulak moving up 3+ minutes toi and playing his off-hand. That's the big picture here.
 
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Jimmi McJenkins said:
It's true, look how much better with an NHL defense Nurse and the team played. Stetcher is a dramatically better player, he's just not tall.

Josh Brown would have a hard time making the 2014-2015 Oilers, he just isn't even in the wheelhouse of this team at all, he SO clearly the weak link.
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Nurse is playing great because of Nurse. He's been great all year and all situational play. Moving Kulak up into 2RD has mitigated the toi and responsibility gap within that role. It is the position they are prioritizing to upgrade their defense to be a Cup level group.

The Oilers are managing their bottom roster d-men deployment that way. They've played Brown recently against big, physical aggressive teams for the function he offers as an organizational depth d-man. He largely kept his head above water. Back to repeating point if the Oilers are looking into Klingberg, as reported, it's to upgrade the depth puck moving function. That is Stetcher not Brown. Would just move down both players as organizational depth players on a better, deeper blueline which they've tinkered with since they signed a training camp walk-on Dermot and started him game 1 on his off shooting side.

It's critical to have depth. And it's critical to have flexible coaching that can problem solve with rosters and personnel deployment. I've said all year Knoblach's best coaching has been to tackle the 2RD role & responsibility hole with moving Kulak there and in game critical situations to defend. Stetcher and Brown are organization depth guys as they were signed to be on a deep team. Both signed with term to help as poison pills to mitigate against prospective waiver claims. They are what they are.
 
Behind Enemy Lines said:
Nurse is playing great because of Nurse. He's been great all year and all situational play. Moving Kulak up into 2RD has mitigated the toi and responsibility gap within that role. It is the position they are prioritizing to upgrade their defense to be a Cup level group.
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Sure, but this group is high end at this point, the playoffs do look like a steep climb, but the desperate upgrade you suggest is the thing from the last 2 years when Cody Ceci was dragging the entire group down.

They need to improve, but it, imo, lacks the utter desperation of pervious seasons. However, they need a few bodies, Klingberg + someone else as an example, because they need to push Josh Brown into the 9/10 hole, so ALOT of guys have to be hurt before he plays, because he's bad at all the hockey except being tall.


Like what you guys imagine this defense group as, and how they've preformed are always at utter odds.
 
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Sure, but this group is high end at this point, the playoffs do look like a steep climb, but the desperate upgrade you suggest is the thing from the last 2 years when Cody Ceci was dragging the entire group down.

They need to improve, but it, imo, lacks the utter desperation of pervious seasons. However, they need a few bodies, Klingberg + someone else as an example, because they need to push Josh Brown into the 9/10 hole, so ALOT of guys have to be hurt before he plays, because he's bad at all the hockey except being tall.


Like what you guys imagine this defense group as, and how they've preformed are always at utter odds.
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Going back to pre-Ekholm trade I've said this team needed two top 4 d upgrades to field a legitimate Cup contending defense. They're still missing one piece imo. Ceci was overplayed under previous coaches who didn't have the mental dexterity or guts to make bold game plan adjustments - either strategic or in-game tactical adjustments. That's on coaching. Knoblauch and Coffey have done that with great success with this regular season one-off play. Now the organization is formulating the big upgrade for 2 RD and in discussion of a Hail Mary low cost consideration allegedly of Klingberg we can see the position type consideration is for a quality puck moving type upgrade. Whatever they ultimately land with (and I believe a defense upgrade is a certainty), it knocks both Stetcher and Brown to where they were projected to be as #7/8 options. Each offering a different, end of roster, depth player skill sets. Playoff heavy series hockey is very different. They still need work on this blueline's quality at upper level.
 
Mcnotloilersfan said:
This is a perfect year to absolutely beef up this roster in all areas. I want to see this team pull a 2022 Avs and just tear it up in the playoffs.
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The opportunity will not get better than now with a bunch of new mega contracts kicking in over the next few years.

I recognize that it's generally a bit silly to get mad about imaginary moves we all make up on here, but I will be so immensely frustrated if the Oilers don't sell everything not nailed down to load up the roster for this run.
 
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Random question for anyone- is Alec Regula still technically on the Oilers? I just noticed that the Oilers official website lists him on our defence, but Puckpedia has him in the AHL. As far as I can tell he hasn't played any games for the Condors, and I didn't see anything about him being sent down.
 
McAsuno said:
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Assuming he comes in as a depth option, I really like the idea of adding Klingberg as a depth option. We've been pretty healthy on the blueline (knock on wood) but if Bouchard is ever injured, our right side is Stecher-Emberson-Brown, with guys like Regula and Kemp as call ups. Going into the playoffs with that is a recipe for disaster.
 
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