Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's The Beef?

[CupofOil]

I had no idea that Ekholm was as good as he is, I thought he was a solid D that was more a part of a solid Nashville system. I was way off, the guy is a stud, borderline #1 D. If he was on PP1 here, I think he’d be a 60 + point D. I hope he resigns here and finishes his career as an Oiler and Stanley Cup Champion.

I don’t think it’s even possible to find another Ekholm this trade deadline , both because I don’t know if one is available and because I don’t believe the Oilers have the assets to quite someone that expensive.

Hoping that Bowman is the real deal and makes a couple smart and clever additions to this team. The Oilers look like the real deal, the correct tweak or 2 could put them over the top.

I've always wanted Ekholm as an Oiler, even way back when when the Preds had a glut of Dmen on the roster in the Weber/Suter/Ellis/young Josi days and thought a young Ekholm might be the odd man out but his best years have clearly been with the Oilers mainly for two reasons, because he finally crawled out of the shadows of Weber and then Josi and got his big opportunity to be the top Dman and, two, Paul Coffey. He has been quite as good this year as he was last year but I see him still being a solid top pairing Dman for at least the next 2-3 years, those Swedes generally age well.

 

[foshizzle]

Dude you’re out to Lunch here. If you think Europeans are 70% right handed then no one here can help you.

That was an aggressive response. I can say one thing for sure- you’re 100% a dick

 

[VeteranPresence]

I'm not sure what is so good about Connor Murphy though. I'm just looking at his points though. Am I missing something?

Defensively responsible #4 who plays a very physical brand of hockey and PKs a ton while also drawing a lot of penalties (on account of his chipiness). He is basically the premium version of Emberson.

The downside is he gets injured often because of his play style (like right now) but we would theoretically have Stecher to jump into the lineup if that happened. I think we are a better team in April-June with Murphy than without though, he's a warrior who checks a lot of boxes for us:

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Murphy
Kulak-Emberson
Stecher

 

[foshizzle]

Actually the post you quoted is correct. People tend to shoot left because you skate with your dominant hand on the stick. It's more natural. Studies have shown most kids/babies will grab a stick and naturally shoot left.

Some parents try to correct it.

It differs by country according to research models. In Canada, most players shoot left. That number drops drastically in the US where only 50% shoot left.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

John Klingberg is closing in on resuming his NHL career. Toronto, Ottawa and Edmonton among the teams with expressed interest. A decision expected in next 2 weeks. Klingberg had hip resurfacing surgery in 2023 and has worked hard to get to this point. 5-7 teams in the mix.

Either his hip was screwing him, or he is just brutal. He wasn't even playable in Toronto before he went out of the lineup.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

John Klingberg is closing in on resuming his NHL career. Toronto, Ottawa and Edmonton among the teams with expressed interest. A decision expected in next 2 weeks. Klingberg had hip resurfacing surgery in 2023 and has worked hard to get to this point. 5-7 teams in the mix.

Either his hip was screwing him, or he is just brutal. He wasn't even playable in Toronto before he went out of the lineup.

Just posted this, he doesn't hurt the depth for cheap imo.

 

[oXo Cube]

Klingberg seems kinda pointless. What role does he fill here?

That's before we even get into the fact that he hasn't been a good NHL player since at least 2022.

 

[belair]

At league minimum, I have time for a look, he's better than Josh Brown, no question

Anthony Deangelo just left SKA for family reasons as well. There's a weak RHD market and players know it.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Oilers, Toronto and Ottawa have expressed interest in John Klingberg. Is this guy even top 4 anymore? If its just for a third pair spot or #7, its all right

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Oilers, Toronto and Ottawa have expressed interest in John Klingberg. Is this guy even top 4 anymore?

No. If we're getting any defensemen anything other than true top 4 is a waste of time.

 

[McJadeddog]

At league minimum, I have time for a look, he's better than Josh Brown, no question

If you could get at league minimum, there is literally no downside to trying him out, as you can bury in minors. No idea how good he would be or not be, but certainly worth a shot if you could get at that price. I'm assuming he will sign for exactly that though, so I don't think salary will be the problem. I's more fit and interest I would think. I don't see a fit on the oilers myself. We don't need PP help at all, and Kling was never exactly known for his ES prowess, even when he was younger and healthier. Again, no risk, I just personally don't see the potential upside.

 

[Soundwave]

Isn't that kind of what the Kapanen claim essentially was? Or the Jacob Perrault add, if we're looking a bit deeper at the the farm?

People can talk about the goaltending, but the only actual solution that's stood out this year is MacKenzie Blackwood, who required a significant return package, freed up no cap space and ultimately extended for what looks eerily similar to the Jack Campbell deal.

The Oilers are wise to wait until the market develops to address the necessary roles. That doesn't generally happen until the standings start to separate.

Blackwood only required that because the Avs had to get the Sharks to take on Georgeiv's salary.

The Oilers could have had this player for cheaper than that, they just don't take the position seriously at all.

We spend more of pieces like Adam Henrique who come here and rapidly decline.

 

[K1984]

If you could get at league minimum, there is literally no downside to trying him out, as you can bury in minors. No idea how good he would be or not be, but certainly worth a shot if you could get at that price. I'm assuming he will sign for exactly that though, so I don't think salary will be the problem. I's more fit and interest I would think. I don't see a fit on the oilers myself. We don't need PP help at all, and Kling was never exactly known for his ES prowess, even when he was younger and healthier. Again, no risk, I just personally don't see the potential upside.

I like the idea of having another bigger guy that can move even if he ends up as the #7/8/9 guy. Just depends on how well he still moves after the hip resurface.

We don't really have a redundancy on the right side that is bigger and can skate, I'm assuming he'd be capable of filling in for a playoff game or two if required here and there.

 

[belair]

Blackwood only required that because the Avs had to get the Sharks to take on Georgeiv's salary.

The Oilers could have had this player for cheaper than that they just don't take the position seriously at all.

A comparable trade would've been replacing Georgiev with Skinner, a significant forward prospect and a high pick. It's that simple.

 

[Soundwave]

A comparable trade would've been replacing Georgiev with Skinner, a significant forward prospect and a high pick. It's that simple.

Skinner has more value than Georgiev who is terrible, Colorado had to add to get them to take Georgiev back, San Jose didn't need another goalie.

Oilers management cannot get anything done with goaltending and probably never will, they are clueless generally but about goaltending especially. It's been 10 years of the same laundry list of excuses and multiple suitable options come and go to other teams.

We could have had Askarov, we could have had Blackwood, etc. etc. There's always an excuse why they can't get it done.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Klingberg would be wise to go back to TO as their PP point options haven't been getting it done. That said if he wants to chase a cup we would likely be his best fit.

 

[Stud Muffin]

Klingberg would be wise to go back to TO as their PP point options haven't been getting it done. That said if he wants to chase a cup we would likely be his best fit.

Doesn't hurt to test drive him on the Second Pair with Nurse. If his hips were what cause the majority of the downfall in his game then there might be a player here.

I see him going back to Toronto Though.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

If you could get at league minimum, there is literally no downside to trying him out, as you can bury in minors. No idea how good he would be or not be, but certainly worth a shot if you could get at that price. I'm assuming he will sign for exactly that though, so I don't think salary will be the problem. I's more fit and interest I would think. I don't see a fit on the oilers myself. We don't need PP help at all, and Kling was never exactly known for his ES prowess, even when he was younger and healthier. Again, no risk, I just personally don't see the potential upside.

He's scored at the NHL level and can move the puck, that will help the depth mix, imo.

 

[Canovin]

EDM will show Klingberg with more interest with a headscratching NMC

 

[Soundwave]

Oilers sure do love themselves some 32-35+ year olds so Klingberg checks out.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

Klingberg seems kinda pointless. What role does he fill here?

That's before we even get into the fact that he hasn't been a good NHL player since at least 2022.

for league min, I'd be fine putting him the AHL for some insurance, but anything more than that, probably ain't worth it.

 

[The Nuge]

Klingberg would be wise to go back to TO as their PP point options haven't been getting it done. That said if he wants to chase a cup we would likely be his best fit.

Thing is, you’re probably just as likely to get paid as a cup winner compared to producing extra on the PP. Look at OEL. He could only manage 2.25 in free agency, and after winning the cup, got 14 over 4 years. If Klingberg’s problems were from his hip, he could come here, play top 4, and probably still get something like 20-30 million on his next contract

 

[unicornBLOOD]

Skinner has more value than Georgiev who is terrible, Colorado had to add to get them to take Georgiev back, San Jose didn't need another goalie.

Oilers management cannot get anything done with goaltending and probably never will, they are clueless generally but about goaltending especially. It's been 10 years of the same laundry list of excuses and multiple suitable options come and go to other teams.

We could have had Askarov, we could have had Blackwood, etc. etc. There's always an excuse why they can't get it done.

can't blame Bowman for the past goaltending issues, he just got here. the current tandem of Skinner and Pickard at a combined 3.6 million is a great value, on a team that has very little cap space. I'd say this is the best the Oilers goaltending (NHL level only) has looked in a long time. They need more depth for sure, and they need to do a better job of developing and of pro scouting of goalies. Neither Askarov or Blackwood made sense due to the fact that Edmonton has very little cap room, and a very limited number of trade capital to use this year, to go along with a clearly much bigger, and more pressing need in a top 4 D upgrade. So I don't see how either of those 2 guys were a realistic option. I do agree, both would of been great to have, just poor timing on a number of different levels. The organizational goaltending issue needs to be addressed, I hope Bowman gets on it.

 

[McHelpus]

Klingberg is like the total opposite I want in a dman for this team.

 

[McTonyBrar]

for league min, I'd be fine putting him the AHL for some insurance, but anything more than that, probably ain't worth it.

All that will do is take minutes away from Wanner when he's back