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[TheNumber4]

I definitely don't know all the nuances but it didn't make any sense that Edmonton would purposefully put Kane on LTIR early instead of waiting if it meant they didn't accrue cap space. The capfriendly guy would know better and Bowman specifically said he was happy with their cap and have been accruing all year.

Bowman and the new revamped JJ management team I trust to get this right. Holland and his crew…. Not so much.

 

[bellagiobob]

Drai getting the usual no respect from the media.

 

[TheNumber4]

Drai getting the usual no respect from the media.

These Eastern Based Writers don't even watch the games, we know that. But they could atleast check the overall analytics:

Oh and a bonus f*** MacKinnon that fraud:

 

[unicornBLOOD]

I had no idea that Ekholm was as good as he is, I thought he was a solid D that was more a part of a solid Nashville system. I was way off, the guy is a stud, borderline #1 D. If he was on PP1 here, I think he’d be a 60 + point D. I hope he resigns here and finishes his career as an Oiler and Stanley Cup Champion.

I don’t think it’s even possible to find another Ekholm this trade deadline , both because I don’t know if one is available and because I don’t believe the Oilers have the assets to quite someone that expensive.

Hoping that Bowman is the real deal and makes a couple smart and clever additions to this team. The Oilers look like the real deal, the correct tweak or 2 could put them over the top.

 

[jeg]

I had no idea that Ekholm was as good as he is, I thought he was a solid D that was more a part of a solid Nashville system. I was way off, the guy is a stud, borderline #1 D. If he was on PP1 here, I think he’d be a 60 + point D. I hope he resigns here and finishes his career as an Oiler and Stanley Cup Champion.

I don’t think it’s even possible to find another Ekholm this trade deadline , both because I don’t know if one is available and because I don’t believe the Oilers have the assets to quite someone that expensive.

Hoping that Bowman is the real deal and makes a couple smart and clever additions to this team. The Oilers look like the real deal, the correct tweak or 2 could put them over the top.

Looking over the teams seems like Connopr Murphy and Risto are two of the "bigger" swings we could take from bottom teams, reasonable contracts but who knows.

 

[Fishy McScales]

That’s just plain false. Most Europeans are right shots and most North American are left shots. Has nothing to do with which hand you right with. I remember the split being 70/30 in favour of left hand shooters in North American and almost the exact flip for Europeans

I see @foshizzle is making things up again.

 

[Stud Muffin]

That’s just plain false. Most Europeans are right shots and most North American are left shots. Has nothing to do with which hand you right with. I remember the split being 70/30 in favour of left hand shooters in North American and almost the exact flip for Europeans

Dude you’re out to Lunch here. If you think Europeans are 70% right handed then no one here can help you.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

These Eastern Based Writers don't even watch the games, we know that. But they could atleast check the overall analytics:

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Oh and a bonus f*** MacKinnon that fraud:
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We are long past the point of caring about awards. There’s only one prize that matters right now.

 

[Fishy McScales]

I'd prefer proactive management rather than reactive management but that's just me.

So you're saying the Oilers should abandon their strategy, after proactively trading out Cody Ceci in order to be able to accrue cap space, by making a knee-jerk trade in January when they're 17-4-1 in their last 22?

Sounds like you're not sure what it means to be proactive. Sounds more like you approve of what we call "random acts of management" which can be incredibly harmful. Peter Chiarelli was good at those.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

So you're saying the Oilers should abandon their strategy, after proactively trading out Cody Ceci in order to be able to accrue cap space, by making a knee-jerk trade in January when they're 17-4-1 in their last 22?

Sounds like you're not sure what it means to be proactive. Sounds more like you approve of what we call "random acts of management" which can be incredibly harmful. Peter Chiarelli was good at those.

Proactive means making subtle roster improvements throughout the season rather than waiting for the glaring weaknesses to expose themselves. People have talked about the goaltending all season long. While I'm a bigger believer in Skinner than most, I would also like to see an upgrade on Pickard to give Skinner more rest time. Of course I'd like to see Schwartz fired but that won't happen.

I'd also like to see a top 4 D brought in. A significant injury to the defense could derail the season.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

That’s just plain false. Most Europeans are right shots and most North American are left shots. Has nothing to do with which hand you right with. I remember the split being 70/30 in favour of left hand shooters in North American and almost the exact flip for Europeans

Actually the post you quoted is correct. People tend to shoot left because you skate with your dominant hand on the stick. It's more natural. Studies have shown most kids/babies will grab a stick and naturally shoot left.

Some parents try to correct it.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Proactive means making subtle roster improvements throughout the season rather than waiting for the glaring weaknesses to expose themselves. People have talked about the goaltending all season long. While I'm a bigger believer in Skinner than most, I would also like to see an upgrade on Pickard to give Skinner more rest time. Of course I'd like to see Schwartz fired but that won't happen.

I'd also like to see a top 4 D brought in. A significant injury to the defense could derail the season.

A risk log sometimes involves risk acceptance if potential mitigation runs counter to strategy or is deemed unfeasible. And all projects have an element of risk.

The Oilers are not struggling, therefore risk mitigation is not urgent since it would run counter to the overall strategy.

Another concept closely tied to this is opportunity cost. A move today might prevent a better move tomorrow, and, again, the strategy is to make the better move tomorrow.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Drai getting the usual no respect from the media.

Who gives a crap anyways about loser regular season awards. It's all about the Stanley Cup now.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

A risk log sometimes involves risk acceptance if potential mitigation runs counter to strategy or is deemed unfeasible. And all projects have an element of risk.

The Oilers are not struggling, therefore risk mitigation is not urgent since it would run counter to the overall strategy.

Another concept closely tied to this is opportunity cost. A move today might prevent a better move tomorrow, and, again, the strategy is to make the better move tomorrow.

But on the other hand, a move tomorrow might be undone by a move today by another team. While I wasn't the biggest advocate for it, the Avs took a couple good goalies off the market already.

Are you comfortable going forward with the two goalies we have?

 

[Fishy McScales]

But on the other hand, a move tomorrow might be undone by a move today by another team. While I wasn't the biggest advocate for it, the Avs took a couple good goalies off the market already.

Are you comfortable going forward with the two goalies we have?

I have been vocal on here about my concern with the goaltending, but I also understand it is a consequence of top-heavy roster construction.

I don’t believe we should make unnecessary moves counter to our strategy. Blackwood is working out for the Avs so far but the jury remains out on his long-term deal. And he would have been a replacement for Skinner moreso than Pickard.

 

[belair]

Proactive means making subtle roster improvements throughout the season rather than waiting for the glaring weaknesses to expose themselves. People have talked about the goaltending all season long. While I'm a bigger believer in Skinner than most, I would also like to see an upgrade on Pickard to give Skinner more rest time. Of course I'd like to see Schwartz fired but that won't happen.

I'd also like to see a top 4 D brought in. A significant injury to the defense could derail the season.

Isn't that kind of what the Kapanen claim essentially was? Or the Jacob Perrault add, if we're looking a bit deeper at the the farm?

People can talk about the goaltending, but the only actual solution that's stood out this year is MacKenzie Blackwood, who required a significant return package, freed up no cap space and ultimately extended for what looks eerily similar to the Jack Campbell deal.

The Oilers are wise to wait until the market develops to address the necessary roles. That doesn't generally happen until the standings start to separate.

 

[oilers4life5]

A risk log sometimes involves risk acceptance if potential mitigation runs counter to strategy or is deemed unfeasible. And all projects have an element of risk.

The Oilers are not struggling, therefore risk mitigation is not urgent since it would run counter to the overall strategy.

Another concept closely tied to this is opportunity cost. A move today might prevent a better move tomorrow, and, again, the strategy is to make the better move tomorrow.

Somebody sounds like a business analyst or project manager in their real life. Good insight.

 

[Canovin]

No thanks to Ty Smith.
There are better options. I don't care if he is a free asset. Would rather save the cap space and go for someone with more of an impact.
Ty Smith is hot garbage.

I would give him a chance. We've been finding nice depth with Kapanen, Pods and Emberson.

Free assets for me would be Jonathan Toews and Tony Deangelo

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Isn't that kind of what the Kapanen claim essentially was? Or the Jacob Perrault add, if we're looking a bit deeper at the the farm?

People can talk about the goaltending, but the only actual solution that's stood out this year is MacKenzie Blackwood, who required a significant return package, freed up no cap space and ultimately extended for what looks eerily similar to the Jack Campbell deal.

The Oilers are wise to wait until the market develops to address the necessary roles. That doesn't generally happen until the standings start to separate.

I don't really feel that adding forwards really solves anything. Sure it's a harmless add but the team is still thin on the back end and the goaltending is okay but not amazing.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Somebody sounds like a business analyst or project manager in their real life. Good insight.

Indeed I work with project management, although ironically I don't think I'm all that great at it in practice.

 

[belair]

I don't really feel that adding forwards really solves anything. Sure it's a harmless add but the team is still thin on the back end and the goaltending is okay but not amazing.

Kapanen seems to have added a bit of speed to the bottom six that was lacking early on. He's been effective on the forecheck and has popped in a few goals.
I wouldn't call that harmless necessarily.

The Oilers are performing very well this season. They don't need to make a kneejerk trade to address an area that isn't really struggling.

I'd prefer that cap and those assets be directed at a player or players who can make larger impacts and can potentially be kept.

 

[McTonyBrar]

MacT also said he scouted him in Buffalo, huge red flag was how many minuses he had compared to his teammates. I only caught parts of the segment though, but they were going down the list of defenceman possibly available. Connor Murphy was brough up, MacT says he likes him.


"Hey Perbix wanna make $4M a year in Edmonton."
"Sorry I prefer $2.5M in Tampa, i'll make more!"

I'm not sure what is so good about Connor Murphy though. I'm just looking at his points though. Am I missing something?

 

[Canovin]

Toews-McDavid-Hyman. You know it's coming

 

[Canovin]

If the cap is going up to 97M next season as suggested, then the season after it would probably come at 102M. I think we have the cap space to sign Rasmus Andersson if we made a trade for him

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

At league minimum, I have time for a look, he's better than Josh Brown, no question