Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's The Beef?

[belair]

I don't really see the lack of depth at LD. If anything it's probably the single strongest spot on the team with Ekholm, Nurse and Kulak, IMO.

There's only rumours about the team looking at a LH PMD because they could play on the right side beside Nurse. You can pretty much guarantee Smith isn't going to ever fill that spot this season, so I'm not really sure why he'd be worth the dice roll.

The issue with the depth is that it ends after those three. Smith at the very least would be a better option than Josh Brown, who is currently $1m on our salary cap.

In Bakersfield we're consistently running a RHD on the left side. The next call up on the farm is Cam Dineen. There's an organizational shortage of left handed options.

Smith is a defenseman with decent footwork, good offensive instincts and a good first pass. I think he'd be worth a look in the immediate short term.

 

[McDNicks17]

And beyond Kulak we have Dineen and thats it. Very little depth there at an organization level, despite being strong on the main roster when everyone is healthy. If he falters, send him down and if he passes through, he can help balance AHL pairings if they feel the need.

Kulak has played well beside Nurse, so if you don't think Smith can handle the top 4 you put Kulak beside Nurse, and have Smith play with Emberson. If Smith shows better than Stecher, it's pretty easy to make it work even if you don't think he is the ideal player because he won't be replacing an ideal player. Yet again, he is free and zero risk.

The issue with the depth is that it ends after those three. Smith at the very least would be a better option than Josh Brown, who is currently $1m on our salary cap.

In Bakersfield we're consistently running a RHD on the left side. The next call up on the farm is Cam Dineen. There's an organizational shortage of left handed options.

Smith is a defenseman with decent footwork, good offensive instincts and a good first pass. I think he'd be worth a look in the immediate short term.

If that's what you're looking to do, wait for him to clear and swap them a random AHL forward for him like the other two AHL deals they've made this year. You can't improve AHL depth with waivers.

They clearly want to run six D on the roster to accrue cap space. Brown is only up because of the lengthy road trip.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

HNIC:

Preds telling teams that even though ROR does not have trade protection in his contract, he will be treated as he has a NTC out of respect
offer needs to make the Preds excited, and ROR wants to go there
ROR has not asked to be moved yet

Kraken CEO at the Sabres/Kraken game which is unusual and noted

Vancouver is considering trade offers for Miller or Pettersen to western conference teams
They aren't telling western conference teams that inquire no

 

[Jarvi]

If that's what you're looking to do, wait for him to clear and swap them a random AHL forward for him like the other two AHL deals they've made this year. You can't improve AHL depth with waivers.

They clearly want to run six D on the roster to accrue cap space. Brown is only up because of the lengthy road trip.

Well, you can't if you never try. It seems to me that we lost a player to waivers that's now in the AHL for Vegas, so it's possible build ahl depth with waivers for other clubs it seems. Also, apparently our whole cap accrual thing may have been for nothing according to puckpedia? So I don't really give a shit about a weeks worth of accrual, especially when the team seems to think it's worth spending that on Josh Brown anyways.

Sure. Call them and offer a trade for a nothing player. Idc. If they say no, take him anyways cause you never know how these things play out and despite your never ending goal post moving, there is no real downside to trying.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Well, you can't if you never try. It seems to me that we lost a player to waivers that's now in the AHL for Vegas, so it's possible build ahl depth with waivers for other clubs it seems. Also, apparently our whole cap accrual thing may have been for nothing according to puckpedia? So I don't really give a shit about a weeks worth of accrual, especially when the team seems to think it's worth spending that on Josh Brown anyways.

Sure. Call them and offer a trade for a nothing player. Idc. If they say no, take him anyways cause you never know how these things play out and despite your never ending goal post moving, there is no real downside to trying.

We would need to claim him, and then waive him again.

The 1 time its worked all year is more of a unicorn than a standard, and just a waste of time.

 

[Jumptheshark]

HNIC:

Preds telling teams that even though ROR does not have trade protection in his contract, he will be treated as he has a NTC out of respect
offer needs to make the Preds excited, and ROR wants to go there
ROR has not asked to be moved yet

Kraken CEO at the Sabres/Kraken game which is unusual and noted

Vancouver is considering trade offers for Miller or Pettersen to western conference teams
They aren't telling western conference teams that inquire no

Not that unusual. He was on the road with them a few times last year. He does it to walk around the different arenas and stadiums in different city to see what they are doing with customer interaction and engagement

 

[McHelpus]

HNIC:

Preds telling teams that even though ROR does not have trade protection in his contract, he will be treated as he has a NTC out of respect
offer needs to make the Preds excited, and ROR wants to go there
ROR has not asked to be moved yet

Kraken CEO at the Sabres/Kraken game which is unusual and noted

Vancouver is considering trade offers for Miller or Pettersen to western conference teams
They aren't telling western conference teams that inquire no

If ROR was right handed I would be all over it. I just don't see another left handed center being in our radar.

 

[OilerTyler]

If ROR was right handed I would be all over it. I just don't see another left handed center being in our radar.

Didn’t he straight up say that he left Toronto because he didn’t want to play in a crazy hockey market?

 

[Soundwave]

I'd take a shot on Ty Smith if the price is free (free being the operative word). Maybe Coffey can make something of him.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I'd take a shot on Ty Smith if the price is free (free being the operative word). Maybe Coffey can make something of him.

No idea what happened but after 21/22 but he is no longer the same player. I know he had some injuries but he is a good AHL player that looks to have lost his way at the NHL level

 

[TB12]

I'd take a shot on Ty Smith if the price is free (free being the operative word). Maybe Coffey can make something of him.

Still wild to me what an amazing job Coffey has done with the D here. I thought he was just another old boys hire, but he has turned out to be an amazing hire.

 

[foshizzle]

I agree with Bruce

If Bruce says it, take it very, very seriously

 

[foshizzle]

A $97M cap?

No. Kane’s LTIR and cap accrual. Sorry- are you talking about something else? I was going through the thread pretty fast

 

[Bryanbryoil]

If Bruce says it, take it very, very seriously

Can you elaborate on that? Is he good at finding diamonds in the rough or something?

 

[foshizzle]

Bowman and Jackson managing like clowns and sure enough the circus is on display in Chicago tonight. Who could have thought ignoring goaltending and defense would lead to even bad NHL teams victimizing you?

Oilers are the 5th best defensive team in the league though

 

[McHelpus]

Didn’t he straight up say that he left Toronto because he didn’t want to play in a crazy hockey market?

I thought he left toronto because of the leadership or lack of? Didn't he say how it was Matthew's, Marner, Nylander refused to be gritty and wanted the "role players" to do it?

 

[foshizzle]

Can you elaborate on that? Is he good at finding diamonds in the rough or something?

Yep. Bruce is excellent at identifying and calling out talent, especially at the AHL level. I remember him being very pro Kesselring. His game breakdowns and systems breakdowns are excellent. He isn’t some hack- he’s legit a very smart dude. I don’t know if you saw his systems breakdowns all through the playoffs- but I know he helped me see what the Oilers and the opposition was doing. You could see it play out in real time. He is one of the best in my opinion

 

[Soundwave]

Watching a bit of that Montreal game, man we made a mistake not taking Montembault off Montreal's hands last year and instead spending a 1st on Henrique. He's a pretty good goalie, his numbers are held back by a Habs team that doesn't play much defense.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Oilers are the 5th best defensive team in the league though

Just imagine if we had top 10 goaltending consistently.

Watching a bit of that Montreal game, man we made a mistake not taking Montembault off Montreal's hands last year and instead spending a 1st on Henrique. He's a pretty good goalie, his numbers are held back by a Habs team that doesn't play much defense.

Was he on the block? I always thought he looked good when I watched him. He would be better than both of our goalies.

 

[Soundwave]

Just imagine if we had top 10 goaltending consistently.


Was he on the block? I always thought he looked good when I watched him. He would be better than both of our goalies.

Yeah that was the buzz that he was one of the guys we were looking at during that ugly start of the season period when Skinner and Campbell both were melting down.

 

[foshizzle]

Just imagine if we had top 10 goaltending consistently.


Was he on the block? I always thought he looked good when I watched him. He would be better than both of our goalies.

I dream about better goaltending everyday. What wouldn’t do for Mike Smith now

 

[TheNumber4]

Didn’t he straight up say that he left Toronto because he didn’t want to play in a crazy hockey market?

Yes. Torontos trash market ruined ROR for everyone

Watching a bit of that Montreal game, man we made a mistake not taking Montembault off Montreal's hands last year and instead spending a 1st on Henrique. He's a pretty good goalie, his numbers are held back by a Habs team that doesn't play much defense.

Montreal chose him as their goalie of the future. And instead traded out Allen to get their futures.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Oilers are the 5th best defensive team in the league though

Crying and screaming about everything is his plan though.

Good teams dont lose to bad teams apparently.

Except Vegas just lost to the Rangers.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

I don't see how the bolded could be correct. If it was the implication would be that if they made a transaction using their accrued space that fit under the current ceiling, then they would lose the option to use LTIR. There is no way that is the case.

Yeah I don’t really get it I’m just trying to interpret the tweet as written