Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's The Beef?

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Agreed.


I like Sissons. Seems a bit pricey though.

If you can get NSH to eat 50% (they have 2 retention spots because of the Ryan Johansen cancelled contract) then he's way more palatable.

 

[TheNumber4]

If you can get NSH to eat 50% (they have 2 retention spots because of the Ryan Johansen cancelled contract) then he's way more palatable.

Cap hit will be fine with what we are working with this year. But the trade assets we have to work with are minimal. Keep in mind 4Cs only play so many minutes and we are comparing the difference between Sissons/Ryan. Just hope we have enough assets to secure a 20 minute a night 4RHD that can make significant assets before we look down the line up at incremental upgrades over what we have.

 

[LeonDraisaitl29]

Isn't his season ongoing?

I guess they can't sign him yet, but will after his season is over. Bob made it sound like it was happening yesterday.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Cap hit will be fine with what we are working with this year. But the trade assets we have to work with are minimal. Keep in mind 4Cs only play so many minutes and we are comparing the difference between Sissons/Ryan. Just hope we have enough assets to secure a 20 minute a night 4RHD that can make significant assets before we look down the line up at incremental upgrades over what we have.

I guess, I'm not as sold on needing that 20+ minute a night guy, because of the level that Nurse and Kulak are playing at, as well, a guy who can win significant draws as a RHC, there might be alot of value in that.

 

[alphahelix]

I guess, I'm not as sold on needing that 20+ minute a night guy, because of the level that Nurse and Kulak are playing at, as well, a guy who can win significant draws as a RHC, there might be alot of value in that.

There needs to be an upgrade on Stecher so he can be the depth guy. The bigger the upgrade, the better. Right handed? Better, given the balance of our handedness. But there will 100% be a D add, and we’re dumb AF if it’s not a clear upgrade on Stecher. That means a 4/5 type at least. A really good #5 RD… may be good enough, maybe.

That type of player doesn’t exist on the market though

 

[belair]

McCarron is the one taking faceoffs on that line. They are both right shots and play the PK regularly. However, McCarron is bigger and makes less money.

McCarron has taken about 100 fewer faceoffs this year than Sissons and has. Sissons is winning them at a 56% rate this season and had taken over 1000 draws in each of the previous three seasons.

McCarron has 25 goals and 53 points in his entire career and he's at the apex of his career in terms of icetime at less than 13 minutes a night.

I don't understand Stauffer's fixation with this player. He's not even that great of a fighter considering he's a bigger guy. He's essentially a right handed Jujhar Khaira.

Agreed.


I like Sissons. Seems a bit pricey though.

The down year in offense might shake him loose though. Though we'd have to find a way to make the dollars work. Realistically Nashville trades him to shed cap commitments.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Heard that segment. Oilers war room put together a list. Did not like hearing that anyone from a depth defenceman to a Top 4 is on it. Sounds like we are at the mercy of the market, and not trying to Go For It. But yeh, it's early days and we still have to see how the East shakes out.

I'm pretty its very unlikely we get a depth defenceman. We were so close last year. JJ is not stupid enough to go with just a small add, especially after losing Broberg and Holloway AND we may end up with lots of cap space when Kane gets put on LTIR

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

There needs to be an upgrade on Stecher so he can be the depth guy. The bigger the upgrade, the better. Right handed? Better, given the balance of our handedness. But there will 100% be a D add, and we’re dumb AF if it’s not a clear upgrade on Stecher. That means a 4/5 type at least. A really good #5 RD… may be good enough, maybe.

That type of player doesn’t exist on the market though

So give up I guess? A 4/5, handedness doesn't really matter, yes Stetcher needs to pushed out of an everyday spot, but people are acting like Ceci is still here and the team is desperate to make a replacement there. This team, this blueline is better, adding a piece is important, but it doesn't seem as pressing.

 

[K1984]

I guess Lou came out today saying the Isles weren't moving anyone because they're "in the hunt", but like 5 points back, 7 teams ahead of them and they have the same amount of wins as the Sabres lol

These teams won't move anything if they're even loosely in the hunt.

All of them as organizations are desperate to make it and any of those teams seem to randomly win 5 in a row and look like they'll surge one week before randomly losing 5 in a row the next and look done. Even if a team is way back, they all seem to take turns going on little runs.

Normally I'd agree with you that being 5 back with 7 teams ahead means you're done, but the East is so uniquely bad as a Conference that in this case I don't think it's that crazy to think they're still alive.

 

[PaPaDee]

My priorities:

1. Top 4, RHD
2. 1B goalie
3. Bottom 6 winger, with speed, size and physicality
4. Bottom 6 RHC

Is working now?

I keep thinking about 4C, and I keep coming back to Colton Sissons.

If you can get the Preds to eat 50%, he's an upgrade on Ryan and he's great on the dot, also a RHC.

I think you do something like.

TO NSH: 2026-2nd, 2025-3rd and Joal Maatta

TO EDM: Sissions (50% on the cap)

Then try to waive Ryan to Bako.

I like this, except I’d like to keep Ryan as NHL depth.

 

[alphahelix]

So give up I guess? A 4/5, handedness doesn't really matter, yes Stetcher needs to pushed out of an everyday spot, but people are acting like Ceci is still here and the team is desperate to make a replacement there. This team, this blueline is better, adding a piece is important, but it doesn't seem as pressing.

We are carrying a few D-men untested in the playoffs against the likes of COL VGK etc… the need for an upgrade is as much as ever IMO. Perhaps the relative quality of that upgrade doesn’t need to be as high.. but I’m not comfortable going to war with the group as it is. Maybe if we had Hellebuyck or something.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

My priorities:

1. Top 4, RHD
2. 1B goalie
3. Bottom 6 winger, with speed, size and physicality
4. Bottom 6 RHC


I like this, except I’d like to keep Ryan as NHL depth.

It's why I try to waive him instead of trading him out.

They don't, desperately need, a top-RHD, they need a 4/5 Defenseman of any hand.

Cody Ceci isn't here, they aren't desperate to replace him this year.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Here's the clip talking about ekholm and the chychrun trade that almost happened.



Also some dude asked seravelli about Matheson...

Thanks, Seravalli is the real deal. Far deeper connected than anyone else. Funny that he also calls out HyperBOBle for cryptic nonsense when the guy's whole premise was faulty that Ekholm magically appeared at trade deadline. Oil met the price and deal got done. Just to add if Stauffer was plugged in he would have been sure to attend the once-in-a-lifetime NHL draft at Vegas Sphere with the Oilers primed to trade into the first round. The team smartly has a firewall arounds its hockey operations group. Take his schtick with a block of salt.

 

[VeteranPresence]

There needs to be an upgrade on Stecher so he can be the depth guy. The bigger the upgrade, the better. Right handed? Better, given the balance of our handedness. But there will 100% be a D add, and we’re dumb AF if it’s not a clear upgrade on Stecher. That means a 4/5 type at least. A really good #5 RD… may be good enough, maybe.

That type of player doesn’t exist on the market though

I am holding to it being Connor Murphy + one or two other roster players from CHI. There's the Bowman connection, the talk about a D with some term, and the way Chicago can help us out in a few other areas on top of that. Murphy and any of Soderblom, Hall (double retention) or even Donato would add some much-needed depth.

I also happen to think Murphy is really underrated. On top of being plainly reliable in his own end and a strong PKer, he draws a TON of penalties which is not something you would think is in his skillset- and we could always use more of that, especially with the PP coming around. He's also a big-time hitter and that physicality is another dimension we sorely miss with Kane out.

Nurse-Murphy is a pair that I think has a chance at some success. It would allow Darnell to skate the puck much more freely and create plays as a result since he wouldn't have to worry about his end. We talk a lot about "fit" with Nurse and having someone to get him the puck in transition, but year after year Murphy is an NHL leader in zone clears and retrievals so I am not as worried.

We do need someone in the four hole, that much is clear, but if that someone is going to come with extra years the list is pretty short. I prefer Murphy over Matheson at least. If he can be our version of Josh Manson for a couple of runs I'd be thrilled with that.

 

[TheNumber4]

I guess, I'm not as sold on needing that 20+ minute a night guy, because of the level that Nurse and Kulak are playing at, as well, a guy who can win significant draws as a RHC, there might be alot of value in that.

Yeh maybe Nurse-Kulak can work. And a cheaper 3LHD can be brought in. But I think keeping Kulak on the 3rd pair and getting that impact 4RHD leads to more improvement.

 

[TheNumber4]

Can't believe Rasmus Ristolainen is the premier RHD on the market this year.

Don't care if it's this TDL or anytime, prioritizing RHD whether through Free Agency, Trade, or Drafting needs to be thing in this organization. Throwing them away for peanuts in the case of Kesselring was such a bonehead move. Not taking a flyer on Fabbro, also a bone head move. Legit RHD are such a scarcity in this League.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Yeh maybe Nurse-Kulak can work. And a cheaper 3LHD can be brought in. But I think keeping Kulak on the 3rd pair and getting that impact 4RHD leads to more improvement.

For sure, I'm just suggesting that upgrade isn't as desperate as last year.

 

[K1984]

Decided to burn some time looking through the rosters of various teams that are almost guaranteed to sell at this point to see what realistic options catch my eye on each. For clarity, each of these are guys that might, maybe help, but I don't necessarily want all of them. Bolded the ones I would key in on myself:

Ducks:

Gibson

Sabres:

Tuch
Aube-Kubel
Byram
Reimer
Luukkonen

Blackhawks:

Murphy
Martinez

Predators:

Sissons
McCarron
Annunen

Sharks:

Granlund
Rutta
Vanacek

Not a ton there to pick from. More teams will fall off and sell, but we really need a few of the teams in the East to really crater to open up more opportunities.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Lol. Nice Cameo.

Frank throwing cold water on a defenceman that might show up outta nowhere is concerning to me.

What if we did all that Cap Accrual, lost Holloway/Bro and come out of it empty handed. That would suck. Also that list of available defenceman continues to suck. He also mentioned Provorov might not even leave... and while Matheson is a possibility, not a high enough one where he even put him on the list. Scary thought...... oh well... TYSON BARRIE WELCOME BACK TO THE OILERS.

Thats the chance you take when this was the strategy.

To be fair losing Holloway and Broberg has had no effect on us this year and outside of 10 games Broberg hasnt done much to say he would be a difference maker here.

Cap accrual continues to be the best option even knowing they might not be a top 2 guy available. For as much as people complain about our D our D stats are pretty damn good this year. Something could still shake loose before the deadline. Imagine we matched the offersheet, now we have a struggling Broberg making 4.6 mil and someone if some Top 2/4 shook lose people would be losing their minds here about lack of capspace to improve the team.

This why i continue to believe the cap space plan we went into the season with was the best call for a team in our situation.

 

[TheNumber4]

Thats the chance you take when this was the strategy.

To be fair losing Holloway and Broberg has had no effect on us this year and outside of 10 games Broberg hasnt done much to say he would be a difference maker here.

Cap accrual continues to be the best option even knowing they might not be a top 2 guy available. For as much as people complain about our D our D stats are pretty damn good this year. Something could still shake loose before the deadline. Imagine we matched the offersheet, now we have a struggling Broberg making 4.6 mil and someone if some Top 2/4 shook lose people would be losing their minds here about lack of capspace to improve the team.

This why i continue to believe the cap space plan we went into the season with was the best call for a team in our situation.

Were a Cup or Bust team, so I think the move made sense from a Short term perspective, but it could hurt us Long term.

And Short term, we still need it to pay off at the TDL to know.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Were a Cup or Bust team, so I think the move made sense from a Short term perspective, but it could hurt us Long term.

And Short term, we still need it to pay off at the TDL to know.

Longterm doesn't matter right now.

players like Holloway or Broberg won't matter if we lose McDavid.

 

[Tarus]

Looks like Severson is getting scratched out in Columbus for poor play and developing young players. Oilers were interested in him during his UFA year if I remember correctly, might be one of those "out of left field" availabilities.

Not a huge fan of him though. He was a bit of a liability in Jersey, and sounds like that hasn't changed much in Columbus.

 

[K1984]

Thats the chance you take when this was the strategy.

To be fair losing Holloway and Broberg has had no effect on us this year and outside of 10 games Broberg hasnt done much to say he would be a difference maker here.

Cap accrual continues to be the best option even knowing they might not be a top 2 guy available. For as much as people complain about our D our D stats are pretty damn good this year. Something could still shake loose before the deadline. Imagine we matched the offersheet, now we have a struggling Broberg making 4.6 mil and someone if some Top 2/4 shook lose people would be losing their minds here about lack of capspace to improve the team.

This why i continue to believe the cap space plan we went into the season with was the best call for a team in our situation.

In the summer I got eviscerated by some on here for suggesting that not trading Kulak to make space for Broberg was always and still is the right move, and also for suggesting that is was too risky because if Broberg sucked, we were left with no options to rectify it due to his cap hit.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Looks like Severson is getting scratched out in Columbus for poor play and developing young players. Oilers were interested in him during his UFA year if I remember correctly, might be one of those "out of left field" availabilities.

Not a huge fan of him though. He was a bit of a liability in Jersey, and sounds like that hasn't changed much in Columbus.

That's what the report is from Portzline the beat guy, he's making too many mistakes and it's costing him his spot.

That's a wild card right there, at 50% (if the Jackets were wanting to be rid of him), it's interesting. I know he can move the puck and create some offense.

 

[TheNumber4]

Looks like Severson is getting scratched out in Columbus for poor play and developing young players. Oilers were interested in him during his UFA year if I remember correctly, might be one of those "out of left field" availabilities.

Not a huge fan of him though. He was a bit of a liability in Jersey, and sounds like that hasn't changed much in Columbus.

Now there's an interesting name. I thought he played well against us in October, but that was such a clown show game for us. Either way, if he's struggling in CBJ 7*6.25M would be a tough pill to swallow for CBJ or us. If they want to dump him and value him as a dump I'd be interested.