Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's The Beef?

[Oilslick941611]

In the summer I got eviscerated by some on here for suggesting that not trading Kulak to make space for Broberg was always and still is the right move, and also for suggesting that is was too risky because if Broberg sucked, we were left with no options to rectify it due to his cap hit.

i had and continue to have the same opinion.

 

[belair]

In the summer I got eviscerated by some on here for suggesting that not trading Kulak to make space for Broberg was always and still is the right move, and also for suggesting that is was too risky because if Broberg sucked, we were left with no options to rectify it due to his cap hit.

Hard to say considering Broberg thrived out of the gate in St Louis. Had we'd made that decision one or two seasons ago, we might've been sitting here with both Holloway and Broberg still in Edmonton-- and potentially at the rumored lower cap numbers.

Fact of the matter is that the damage was done by the summer.

 

[K1984]

Hard to say considering Broberg thrived out of the gate in St Louis. Had we'd made that decision one or two seasons ago, we might've been sitting here with both Holloway and Broberg still in Edmonton-- and potentially at the rumored lower cap numbers.

Fact of the matter is that the damage was done by the summer.

At risk of re-litigating this - don't think we're in the places we got to the last two seasons if we flipped out Kulak and had Broberg instead. Especially in 22-23 when our defence was patchwork for most of the season.

Hard to say considering Broberg thrived out of the gate in St Louis. Had we'd made that decision one or two seasons ago, we might've been sitting here with both Holloway and Broberg still in Edmonton-- and potentially at the rumored lower cap numbers.

Fact of the matter is that the damage was done by the summer.

At risk of re-litigating this - don't think we're in the places we got to the last two seasons if we flipped out Kulak and had Broberg instead. Especially in 22-23 when our defence was patchwork for most of the season.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Hard to say considering Broberg thrived out of the gate in St Louis. Had we'd made that decision one or two seasons ago, we might've been sitting here with both Holloway and Broberg still in Edmonton-- and potentially at the rumored lower cap numbers.

Fact of the matter is that the damage was done by the summer.

It was terrible asset management that got exploited. Act pro-actively with your homegrown talent contributors on a Cup run and you don't walk yourself into a late off-season double jeopardy situation. They misread the player relationships and completely misjudged the changing cap market. Broberg and Holloway were quality assets either as potential trade chips or signed within a team budget if you actively negotiate with your homegrown talent. Both had been discussed within trade deadline discussions so market interest and value were known considerations.

Burned badly when the market dictated new value and poof gone for pennies on the dollar. Reactive Plan B set in motion. Course there's a thread for this...

 

[Uindicator]

Hey guys , dummy back here lol. Here’s the thing , sure,Bouchard has eltie offensive skills for a defenseman, but he’s not an Elite “Defenseman” which you all pride in thinking we finally have here. An elite defenseman is a complete stalwart in the back, preferably with great leadership skills , which Bouchard and definitely Nurse are not. Doughty,Hedman,Petrangelo,Makar,Carlson, even Ekblad, these guys are elite. .All I was saying tying up 19 mil for those 2 , and we’re always gonna be looking for another pairing defenseman to make up for their deficiencies.Remeber Pronger? Ya he almost singlehandledly took us to the final , they’re pretty important for a Stanley cup winning team.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

Watching our game tonight i think its time we gave the Rangers a helping hand towards their rebuild.
Will Cuylle and Dylan Garand for Pickard and '25 6th and 7th, '26 2nd and '27 1st.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Well on the bright side, Marcus Pettersson put on a very good showing for Stan Bowman and Kris Knoblauch

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Well on the bright side, Marcus Pettersson put on a very good showing for Stan Bowman and Kris Knoblauch

He sure has a great showing

 

[TheNumber4]

Hey guys , dummy back here lol. Here’s the thing , sure,Bouchard has eltie offensive skills for a defenseman, but he’s not an Elite “Defenseman” which you all pride in thinking we finally have here. An elite defenseman is a complete stalwart in the back, preferably with great leadership skills , which Bouchard and definitely Nurse are not. Doughty,Hedman,Petrangelo,Makar,Carlson, even Ekblad, these guys are elite. .All I was saying tying up 19 mil for those 2 , and we’re always gonna be looking for another pairing defenseman to make up for their deficiencies.Remeber Pronger? Ya he almost singlehandledly took us to the final , they’re pretty important for a Stanley cup winning team.

I’d take playoffs Bouchard over the the clown show plays I’ve seen Doughty, Pietro, and Ekblad make in the playoffs. If we get last years playoffs Bouch back, we’re laughing with an elite+ offensive D-man back there that can also play completely solid defence.

 

[FlameChampion]

I don’t really see the Oilers getting past Vegas at this point unless things currently change or the team makes some upgrades.

1. We don’t produce enough offense outside of McDavid and Draisaitl. McDavid looks off to me this year. I think he’s going to need more help than previous playoffs.

2. Our goaltending just isn’t good enough or consistent enough.

3. We need a Defense upgrade. I don’t trust Nurse to keep his play up in the playoffs. I think we need a pretty significant upgrade.


Will be interesting to see what Bowman does but honestly I don’t think this team is going to do enough,

And I am sure whatever Vegas does at the deadline will be more significant than Edmonton does.

 

[McDoused]

I don’t really see the Oilers getting past Vegas at this point unless things currently change or the team makes some upgrades.

1. We don’t produce enough offense outside of McDavid and Draisaitl. McDavid looks off to me this year. I think he’s going to need more help than previous playoffs.

2. Our goaltending just isn’t good enough or consistent enough.

3. We need a Defense upgrade. I don’t trust Nurse to keep his play up in the playoffs. I think we need a pretty significant upgrade.


Will be interesting to see what Bowman does but honestly I don’t think this team is going to do enough,

And I am sure whatever Vegas does at the deadline will be more significant than Edmonton does.

I dont disagree with a lot of this but I can't say that I agree with the 1st point. Mcdavid and Draisaitl played 26 and 27 minutes tonight respectively. By contrast fans have been piling on J.Skinner, Brown and Henrique but they only played 8, 10 and 13 minutes respectively.

Knoblauch seems to panic when he's trailing and just runs his top guy ragged instead of giving the depth guys opportunities. I would rather role lines instead. Other coaches will put their shutdown line against mcdrai and makes our team as a whole easier to manage.

I think the depth is there but we just aren't using it. Add in Kane at the deadline and the forward group is deep enough with talent. Knoblauch is a good coach but he definitely frustrates me with how he's been managing guys icetime.

Having said that, none if this happens if we get some big saves early. This team seems slow out of the gates against lesser teams.

 

[FlameChampion]

I dont disagree with a lot of this but I can't say that I agree with the 1st point. Mcdavid and Draisaitl played 26 and 27 minutes tonight respectively. By contrast fans have been piling on J.Skinner, Brown and Henrique but they only played 8, 10 and 13 minutes respectively.

Knoblauch seems to panic when he's trailing and just runs his top guy ragged instead of giving the depth guys opportunities. I would rather role lines instead. Other coaches will put their shutdown line against mcdrai and makes our team as a whole easier to manage.

I think the depth is there but we just aren't using it. Add in Kane at the deadline and the forward group is deep enough with talent. Knoblauch is a good coach but he definitely frustrates me with how he's been managing guys icetime.

Having said that, none if this happens if we get some big saves early. This team seems slow out of the gates against lesser teams.

I agree. I mention that things need to change or they need an upgrade. Theres no reason why our forwards shouldn’t be more productive than they are. We should have the personnel. We have a strong forward group. But we need more guys going than we currently have.

I do think some of it falls on Knoblauch. I like him as a coach. I remember him coming in and saying he wants to empower players, etc. Well I don’t think he’s really empowered players like Skinner, Henrique etc. I do hate how quickly he resorts to the nuclear option. I just don’t know what kind of message gets sent when McDavid/Drai play 25+ mins and other guys get none in a fairly meaningless game. This team really struggles to get the secondary guys going.

The organization seems really stubborn in general.